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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


When talking about quality and characteristics, one can wonder how much of the '80s Progressive Rock can be comparable to 
the classic one from the '70s. I think that can at least be said about Avant-Prog, RIO and Zeuhl, which, again according to RYM's 
informations, amounted to about 20% of all the releases in the '80s. ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/avant-prog/ )
There was surely also quite a bit of other albums, for instance some of those on my list.
Avant Prog, RIO and Zeuhl are the three genres I generally avoid. Wink
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A lot of my 80's listening was electronic and new age stuff and out of it came this symphonic gem:
Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea
Stephen actually re-recorded this album a few years ago where he created an 'orchestra' by using sampling techniques for every individual instrument. I would position this somewhere near Rob Reed's recent instrumental series of albums Sanctuary but I feel its more cohesive.

That along with Enya's Watermark and Clair Hamills Voices are favourites of mine. I also like what Mark Isham was doing a lot at the time. Could also mention Suzanne Cianni's album Neverland and also the very talented Patrick O'Hearn was doing some great stuff at the time. Nearly forgot Eddie Jobson's Theme Of Secrets. It was a stromng decade for instrumental music when you factor in Jean Michela Jarre, Vangelis and of course Tangerine Dream. Plenty of creativity going on which is all that matters.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Avant Prog, RIO and Zeuhl are the three genres I generally avoid. Wink

I know, true dinosaur albums and Neo-Prog. LOL Wink
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The 80s were great. I love neo-prog but also all the cool avant-prog and zeuhl but there was a lot of great prog especially from nations playing catch up

Only listing artists with great prog albums in the 80s

King Crimson
Rush
Los Jaivas
Eskaton
Seru Giran
Carciacs
Camberwell Now
This Heat
Bacamarte
Congreso
Dün
SBB
Alan Parsons Project
Kultivator
Present
Solaris
Zamla Mammaz Manna
The Raincoats
Univers Zero
Ring
Aqsak Maboul
Shub-Niggurath
Asia Minor
Thinking Plague
Kenso
Prazsky Vyber
Art Zoyd
Eloy
Hawkwind
Devil Doll
Saga
Arrigo Barnabe
Robert Wyatt
Eider STellaire
Fred Frith
Hardal
Peter Hammill
Super Freego
Fulano
Phish
Rahmann
Art Bears
Picchio dal Pozzo
Von Zamla
Cai
Yes
P.L.J. band
The Blue Effekt
News From Babel
Alas
Etron Fou Leloubian
Mr Sirius
Skeleton Crew
Ruins
Allan Holdsworth
Mike Oldfield
Cassiber
Debile Menthol
Horizont
Itoiz
Eduard Artemyev
Begnagrad
Ain Soph
When
Het
Igra Staklenih Perli
Stormy Six
L'Ensemble Raye
Steve Hackett
Hellebore
After Dinner
AMenophis
East
Orthotonics
Camel
Birdsongs of the Mesozoic
Miriodor
Sky
Dixie Dregs
Nazca
Confusional Quartet
Djam Karet
Ur Kaos
David Thomas
Stromboli
The Muffins
Decibel
Nuova Era
Banda Elastica
Terpandre
Agnus
Exodus
Dragonfly
Scapa Flow
Planet P Project
Tasbletom
The Enid
Jethro Tull
Asia


i could go on but you get the point!

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^Yes, some of that is prog! Tongue
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

.... there was a lot of great prog especially from nations playing catch up

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Thank you for all the nice contributions to this thread so far, and not least from Progaardvark, Paul and siLLy puPPy.








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Something else, I've been wondered about, is whether any of the '80s Prog can be called "classic" - for instance, I can't see any 
difference between Halloween's Part One and the '70s Prog. Or is the term "classic" only proper to use about the '70s Prog? 
- which I'm most into.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Something else, I've been wondered about, is whether any of the '80s Prog can be called "classic" - for instance, I can't see any 
difference between Halloween's Part One and the '70s Prog. Or is the term "classic" only proper to use about the '70s Prog? 
- which I'm most into.
Classic and modern prog for me has always been divided by the before and after timeline of 1979/1980. That's how it was organised on my long-since-defunct  music site where there were just two prog genres, with prog artists from 1967 to 1979 being listed under "Classic Prog" and all prog artists who came into being from 1980 onwards being listed under the sweeping generalisation of "Neo Prog", where "Neo" just means "New" or "Modern". Smile


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One thing is sure, the classic era of Progressive Rock ended in the second half of the '70s.
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5 stars 1983: Amenophis - Amenophis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIwadRUlo0
4 stars 1983: Anyone's Daughter - Neve Sterne - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRHww2XuZyY
4 stars 1983: Eloy - Performance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHkl_0UelQ
4 stars 1983: The Enid - Something Wicked This Way Comes - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nIh_LR6803DmbQV7nL0WZjVZCbhgF0MZo
5 stars 1983: Gandalf - Magic Theatre - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6J-1yfYOtw
4 stars 1983: Alan Parsons Project - Ammonia Avenue - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ltfr8msEF5od-iMxHYEFBEC
3 stars 1983: Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFEDE25F4A684239E
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3 - ...to the power of three (1988)


Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - S/T  (1989)




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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


One thing is sure, the classic era of Progressive Rock ended in the second half of the '70s.
 

The only band I can think of that bucked the trend was Eloy but that's very much a personal opinion. I enjoy Colours through to Time To Turn more than Dawn through to Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes. That said they are all good. Most classic seventies prog bands either lost the plot in the 80's or redefined their style. Eloy only made very slight modifications although even then the long form tracks disappeared and they eventually gave into the eighties with the not so good album Performance.
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

3 - ...to the power of three (1988)


Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - S/T  (1989)



I don't like either of those albums. The Three album is especially depressingly bad given the talent involved.

Emeson,Lake and Powell was a better try although the line up never gelled for me and I would have much preferred Simon Phillips on the drum stool in the absence of Palmer. Not to say that Cozy wasn't a great drummer but he was more in the hard rock school of drumming. Stargazer is amazing! Phillips would have brought more to the table imo.
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5 stars 1984: David Gilmour - About Face - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3D151F45287469FA
4 stars 1984: Hawkwind - This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsZMlq2c7Udf6z6wfN4cbnE
4 stars 1984: Isidurs Bane - Sagan om den Irlandska Algen - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_170HLztr5xUsKqvC3gW_gjlUUVpz6-o
5 stars 1984: Osiris - Myths & Legends - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CsxMOUW1qo
4 stars 1984: Alan Parsons Project - Vulture Culture - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt_U_yJJdBhiCHC7RaGRNtI
5 stars 1984: Solaris - Martian Chronicles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoVPQlFbN5g
4 stars 1984: Vangelis - Soil Festivities - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OAHzyBIas
4 stars 1984: Rick Wakeman, Jeff Wayne & Kevin Peek - Beyond the Planets - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsBW-Gidl8xtqrXJs-w2cmd
4 stars 1984: Roger Waters - The Pros & Cons 0f Hitch-Hiking - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4S4hqzoPYGSTOnbGutKs28BGGLoCNfHI
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


5 stars 1984: Solaris - Martian Chronicles 

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5 stars 1985: Differences - The Voyage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkpX44O27U
4 stars 1985: Hawkwind - The Chronicle of the Black Sword - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvZ1J_Yr7bgxri9k4ql0W-8
4 stars 1985: Horizont - Summer in Town - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G345jq3ZMPM
5 stars 1985: Outer Limits - Misty Moon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2mYJFDcPx8&t=3107s
4 stars 1985: Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKEbAmF9ZNN3XTlzjYD-1-6
4 stars 1985: Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAKBCdHlMy48RYq7q2DLFJE-aZjAtzYgl
5 stars 1985: Underground Zero - Never Reach the Stars - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEY5WFLJG3VY9ykUtfIntE1L
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

5 stars 1985: Iconoclasta - Reminiscencias 

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

5 stars 1985: Iconoclasta - Reminiscencias 

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Unfortunately, I'm unable to reminisce about Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias as I can't remember what it sounds like and I can barely remember how to spell it either. Tongue
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