1980s' other Progressive Rock than Neo-Prog?
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Topic: 1980s' other Progressive Rock than Neo-Prog?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: 1980s' other Progressive Rock than Neo-Prog?
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 04:49
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I guess, not so few people would say that in the '80s, there was not much else proper Progressive Rock than Neo-Prog - if to define Prog strictly and not include Prog Metal. That's certainly not my opinion, as there WAS much else, as for instance these favourite albums of mine: Agnus (ARG) - Pinturas Y Expresiones (1980) Asia Minor (TRK/F) - Between Flash And Divine (1980) Bacamarte (BRA) - Depois Do Fim (1983) Bi Kyo Ran (J) - Bi Kyo Ran (1982) Djam Karet (USA) - Reflections From The Firepool (1989) Eskaton (F) - 4 Visions (1979, 1981) Halloween (F) - Part One (1988) Iconoclasta (Mex) - Reminiscencias (1985) Los Jaivas (Chile) - Alturas de Machu Pichu (1981) P.L.J. Band (Gre) - Armageddon (1982) Solaris (HUN) - Marsbeli Kronikak (1984) What is your opinion and other good albums to mention (if not including Neo-Prog and Prog Metal)?
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 04:56
A few favourite non-Neo Prog albums from 1980 (when Neo Prog didn't yet exist as a separate genre). 1980: Jon Anderson - Song of Seven - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZJTvVydfLTtLDWeE0FR8f425jB6xQXwT" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZJTvVydfLTtLDWeE0FR8f425jB6xQXwT  1980: Anyone's Daughter - Anyone's Daughter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIpqwIpgpT8&t=1993s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIpqwIpgpT8&t=1993s 1980: Asia Minor - Between Flesh and Divine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJCsu-Kk8kA&t=766s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJCsu-Kk8kA&t=766s 1980: Blue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus Erectus - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kncNEElFlRFlcz04g2l_NxgQUv8eP5eMc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kncNEElFlRFlcz04g2l_NxgQUv8eP5eMc 1980: Eloy - Colours - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL44kuYYS8ykzZJH0DLZqJRB0o6yl2EEO" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL44kuYYS8ykzZJH0DLZqJRB0o6yl2EEO 1980: The Enid - Six Pieces - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMQfw_0L0s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMQfw_0L0s 1980: Steve Hackett - Defector - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZdU2DnbaKJZvX0208LBqgL" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZdU2DnbaKJZvX0208LBqgL 1980: Hawkwind - Levitation - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvUh0JdQQ2wH-L_WubFe-GR" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvUh0JdQQ2wH-L_WubFe-GR 1980: Jon & Vangelis - Short Stories - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuvQaVWvwnrLN-9FH9_SW-m" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuvQaVWvwnrLN-9FH9_SW-m 1980: Kayak - Periscope Life - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kdeZ5PC5REkRBcmGyZAAvBYBpi7WmIHwk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kdeZ5PC5REkRBcmGyZAAvBYBpi7WmIHwk 1980: Nektar - Man in the Moon - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBzMDzoy9yzohN5vDqBm4aAtU1gELufMo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBzMDzoy9yzohN5vDqBm4aAtU1gELufMo 1980: Mike Oldfield - QE2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1lRusrUdZdPdBTGEJOf3iSKb_ZiUxEi8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1lRusrUdZdPdBTGEJOf3iSKb_ZiUxEi8 1980: Alan Parsons Project - The Turn of a Friendly Card - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Luk8Un5tUuHQNopMkANNRkI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Luk8Un5tUuHQNopMkANNRkI 1980: Anthony Phillips - Private Parts & Pieces II: Back to the Pavilion - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbQmfGJJyTMJqjNgFJ1IwWx" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbQmfGJJyTMJqjNgFJ1IwWx 1980: Roxy Music - Flesh + Blood - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLLdBmsTRoyb1YZUNS690hG" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLLdBmsTRoyb1YZUNS690hG 1980: Mike Rutherford - Smallcreep's Day - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYNjPlkSSXBLJzdt-21k2LD" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYNjPlkSSXBLJzdt-21k2LD 1980: Saga - Silent Knight - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kU305p2agKZhfLBx1pc8iTf8Mxd4jpMCw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kU305p2agKZhfLBx1pc8iTf8Mxd4jpMCw 1980: SBB - Memento z Banalnym Triptykiem - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lRaT_QvVXh8n7WhAAUIC5Q3avXlguNi6E" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lRaT_QvVXh8n7WhAAUIC5Q3avXlguNi6E 1980: Sky - Sky 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nrFM1JoihR92lIqrBSKNYP3mMXMT52-m0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nrFM1JoihR92lIqrBSKNYP3mMXMT52-m0 1980: Tangerine Dream - Tangram - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpAJUZeIAY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpAJUZeIAY 1980: YES - Drama - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLIq1y7oaYVFV1zUMSR0I9nFFa7vOAyPw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLIq1y7oaYVFV1zUMSR0I9nFFa7vOAyPw |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 05:09
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Very nice, Paul, even it would also be good to see some albums from later years.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 05:11
The year 1980 was just for starters.
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David_D wrote:Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 05:43
So I maybe better say now, take it easy.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 07:57
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1981: a momentous year for Neo Prog when the very first album Arrived Alive from Scottish band Pallas. 1981: Barclay James Harvest - Turn of the Tide - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mmCu7zmMp0bEPRj4DwppY3kkM38oUolew" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mmCu7zmMp0bEPRj4DwppY3kkM38oUolew 1981: Blue Oyster Cult - Fire of Unknown Origin - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lii5mtMgsCePLhUmVDeW98VsSBfQbLOv8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lii5mtMgsCePLhUmVDeW98VsSBfQbLOv8 1981: Camel - Nude - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIekOFMMIc9WnSq2QpGuwZcwwaAIa5Pv8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIekOFMMIc9WnSq2QpGuwZcwwaAIa5Pv8 1981: ELO - Time - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZi_Tyo-qQ0cTvWbV0uxCgfLaCMJF-Kys" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mZi_Tyo-qQ0cTvWbV0uxCgfLaCMJF-Kys 1981: Eloy - Planets - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC696B8E4020D2283" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC696B8E4020D2283 1981: Flame Dream - Out in the Dark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52-YiwokMO0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52-YiwokMO0 1981: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Leave It Open - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lRiVdRgcokGs1BoVRTuxhkOOggEqsXnFc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lRiVdRgcokGs1BoVRTuxhkOOggEqsXnFc 1981: Grobschnitt - Illegal - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lhRhrTBzzHKoJLT32Y0jFyCX5-wF7eZQE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lhRhrTBzzHKoJLT32Y0jFyCX5-wF7eZQE 1981: Hawkwind - Sonic Attack - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtPDWxh9kC2OZLVnT1hyQy5" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtPDWxh9kC2OZLVnT1hyQy5 1981: Ken Hensley - Free Spirit - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nMnT_EUXRc74JSOunVv66fHOAppHFw8Ow" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nMnT_EUXRc74JSOunVv66fHOAppHFw8Ow 1981: Jon & Vangelis - The Friends of Mr. Cairo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtJ1t-8bDOqVC7b9G1wDNFQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtJ1t-8bDOqVC7b9G1wDNFQ 1981: Kayak - Merlin - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_msZEMGagF_jV5QUbipT38lnnnuMhQiQ-Y" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_msZEMGagF_jV5QUbipT38lnnnuMhQiQ-Y 1981: The Moody Blues - Long Distance Voyager - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lk9x0mXOKEsqVNtqPCewFwlvs1oP_LbqA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lk9x0mXOKEsqVNtqPCewFwlvs1oP_LbqA 1981: Rainbow - Difficult to Cure - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEawmvxQ4lSLsz4Y-lgUBYOf" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEawmvxQ4lSLsz4Y-lgUBYOf 1981: Saga - Worlds Apart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e278xjmXW4M" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e278xjmXW4M 1981: Klaus Schulze - Trancefer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiSJBrafKBw&t=1701s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiSJBrafKBw&t=1701s 1981: Sky - Sky 3 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcQdaW4OISs1IdHmhjvHdxtXnjINtagQ3" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcQdaW4OISs1IdHmhjvHdxtXnjINtagQ3 1981: Soft Machine - Land of Cockayne - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ltd8PW6SVTN6uNdV_0sYJwQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ltd8PW6SVTN6uNdV_0sYJwQ 1981: Tangerine Dream - Exit - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n5iNx2K3w6FppjVtryJQqXm_tUf19gdeg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n5iNx2K3w6FppjVtryJQqXm_tUf19gdeg 1981: Vangelis - Chariots of Fire - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsjS0L1K0ZG6sOkFp6PSGOh" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsjS0L1K0ZG6sOkFp6PSGOh 1981: Rick Wakeman - 1984 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvgRcMpruBRAAEmmDCBfU9F" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvgRcMpruBRAAEmmDCBfU9F |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 08:37
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Rush - Moving Pictures The Dregs - Unsung Heroes Allan Holdsworth - I.O.U. Pat Metheny Group - Offramp Chick Corea Elektric Band - Light Years Zappa - You Are What You Is King Crimson - Discipline Genesis - Duke Adrian Belew - Lone Rhino King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 09:01
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Here's some stuff: 1980: Chac Mool - Nadie en especial Peter Gabriel - Melt Genesis - Duke Noa - Noa Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo tutti i suoi problemi Present - Triskaďdékaphobie Rush - Permanent Waves Mark Shreeve - Embryo Trilogy - Here It Is Yes - Drama 1981: Art Bears - The World as It Is Today East - Játékok ELO - Time Genesis - Abacab King Crimson - Discipline Lethe - Lethe Rush - Moving Pictures This Heat - Deceit 1982: Anyone's Daughter - In Blau Bi Kyo Ran - Bi Kyo Ran East - Hűség Eloy - Time to Turn Peter Gabriel - Security Rush - Signals The Work - Slow Crimes Zarathustra - Also spielt 1983: Bacamarte - Depois do Fim Iconoclasta - Iconoclasta Planet P Project - Planet P Project Waniyetula - A Dream Within a Dream 1984: East - Az áldozat (Szodoma) Het - Let's Het King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair News From Babel - Work Resumed on the Tower Rush - Grace Under Pressure Solaris - Marsbéli krónikák Scott Walker - Climate of Hunter Zaragon - No Return 1985: Differences - The Voyage Iconoclasta - Reminiscencias Present - Le poison qui rend fou Rush - Power Windows Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound 1986: Emerson Lake & Powell - Emerson Lake & Powell News From Babel - Letters Home 1987: Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream Outer Limits - The Scene of Pale Blue 1988: Deja-Vu - Baroque in the Future Vangelis - Direct 1989: Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent Social Tension - Macbethia Thinking Plague - In This Life The Work - Rubber Cage Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon (recorded in 1976 but not released until 1989) ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 09:44
1982: another significant year for nascent Neo Prog which saw the release of the first two studio albums and they were both by the same band: Twelfth Night!  1982: Twelfth Night - Smiling at Grief - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKbDJOmF0Yp7TpSgnklywiW" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKbDJOmF0Yp7TpSgnklywiW 1982: Twelfth Night - Fact and Fiction - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLmIu5oMNBdFumgD1EAAyWe" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLmIu5oMNBdFumgD1EAAyWe A few favourite non-Neo Prog albums from 1982. 1982: Jon Anderson - Animation - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQoFawUqlBoIJY8-eEz5JOP557K5dzGPa" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQoFawUqlBoIJY8-eEz5JOP557K5dzGPa 1982: Anyone's Daughter - In Blau - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMwa-jqdfuQ&t=1994s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMwa-jqdfuQ&t=1994s 1982: Asia - Asia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssLLBnlN14" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssLLBnlN14 1982: East - Huseg - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kzEWACzZVf2W2VjZuzb-V605vS00CZ0rM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kzEWACzZVf2W2VjZuzb-V605vS00CZ0rM 1982: Eloy - Time to Turn - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mDNuXQ5dva0BDOvzaqhyXUUvtimxiV2XQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mDNuXQ5dva0BDOvzaqhyXUUvtimxiV2XQ 1982: Genesis - Three Sides Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlU-kiTGCiHlfsZ5tdCQXVXmZO8DFgW_w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlU-kiTGCiHlfsZ5tdCQXVXmZO8DFgW_w 1982: Jethro Tull - The Broadsword and the Beast - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKPVfOPGMDzgWbTLXgYS20v" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKPVfOPGMDzgWbTLXgYS20v 1982: Jon Lord - Before I Forget - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG8IdDE2FbqOUNqblWgeC-xeAaj4gN4-A" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG8IdDE2FbqOUNqblWgeC-xeAaj4gN4-A 1982: Mike Oldfield - Five Miles Out - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mxz-mj_vbzuUEyCxeswSn8E5qrzl-frC8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mxz-mj_vbzuUEyCxeswSn8E5qrzl-frC8 1982: Osiris - Osiris - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXk3dAPEx9A" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXk3dAPEx9A 1982: Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvFf3sDZHLuhwlbMT-yLM01" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvFf3sDZHLuhwlbMT-yLM01 1982: Pat Metheny Group - Offramp 1982: Robert Plant - Pictures at Eleven - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mt8gt6YAeeW7hqOVLweiDasdXG-qOFRkU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mt8gt6YAeeW7hqOVLweiDasdXG-qOFRkU 1982: Jean-Luc Ponty - Mystical Adventures - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDWzExOR09wzFErQENuq7-adyeWsf6wKk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lDWzExOR09wzFErQENuq7-adyeWsf6wKk 1982: Rainbow - Straight Between the Eyes - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZ-JT3qygphXiHkum72zd-L" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZ-JT3qygphXiHkum72zd-L 1982: Roxy Music - Avalon - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJbDn9HH524KMOYClH3TR8l" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJbDn9HH524KMOYClH3TR8l 1982: Sky - Sky 4: Forthcoming - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lWJPk_TUFMrjs5kDCUEyAD6UICYXjQPew" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lWJPk_TUFMrjs5kDCUEyAD6UICYXjQPew 1982: Supertramp - Famous Last Words - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKyWf-eGY-OQEv4clAomDEq" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKyWf-eGY-OQEv4clAomDEq 1982: Third Quadrant - Seeing Yourself as You Really Are - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bNZn5Rhk7Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bNZn5Rhk7Q |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 12:26
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I'm not sure I can accommodate the dismissal of J-R Fusion, Avant/RIO, Zeuhl, and Prog Metal music and bands from people's consideration of that which is progressive rock music: it's all one and the same to me. Heck! Even a lot of the experimental pop, New Wave, and techno-pop in the 80s always felt "progressive" to me (and it was certainly still rock 'n' roll). Thus, I find it sad and narrow-minded to not include artists like Pat Metheny, Univers Zero, Swans, Shub-Niggurath, Klaus Schulze, Allan Holdsworth, Earthworks, David Sylvian, XTC, Ozric Tentacles, Queensr˙che, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Brian Eno, Jon Hassell, and even The Fixx in a discussion thread like this. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 12:47
Paul, please respect the OP.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 12:48
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Hmm.. are there any non-Japanese late 80's (1987-1989) ELP style albums? I've already checked out the Japanese ones so that's why I'm being so specific. There's a couple of Early 80s ones but I have no idea if this type of music carried on later outside of Japan. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 13:14
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15 Univers Zero - Ceux du Dehors 14 Art Zoyd - Generation Sans Futur Eskaton - 4 Visions Shub-Niggurath - Les Mort Vont Vite Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor 13 Art Zoyd - Phase IV Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade Cardiacs - A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun Present - Triskaidekaphobie This Heat - Deceit Univers Zero - Uzed ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 13:15
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One could wonder how big a difference there was between the '70s and the '80s when talking about quantity. Well, according to RYM, the '70s had 360-520 releases each year while this amounts to 170-360 for the '80s. Only about 10% of the '80s releases was by Neo-Prog. https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/ https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/neo-prog/ ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 13:21
 ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 13:41
Why would you object to me giving the late great Geoff Mann & Twelfth Night a brief mention?
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 13:50
It looks to me, you're planning to list Neo-Prog albums for each year. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 13:52
No, only for 1982.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 14:51
thanks  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 15:22
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When talking about quality and characteristics, one can wonder how much of the '80s Progressive Rock can be comparable to the classic one from the '70s. I think that can at least be said about Avant-Prog, RIO and Zeuhl, which, again according to RYM's informations, amounted to about 20% of all the releases in the '80s. ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/avant-prog/ ) There was surely also quite a bit of other albums, for instance some of those on my list. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 15:38
Avant Prog, RIO and Zeuhl are the three genres I generally avoid.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 15:39
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A lot of my 80's listening was electronic and new age stuff and out of it came this symphonic gem: Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea Stephen actually re-recorded this album a few years ago where he created an 'orchestra' by using sampling techniques for every individual instrument. I would position this somewhere near Rob Reed's recent instrumental series of albums Sanctuary but I feel its more cohesive. That along with Enya's Watermark and Clair Hamills Voices are favourites of mine. I also like what Mark Isham was doing a lot at the time. Could also mention Suzanne Cianni's album Neverland and also the very talented Patrick O'Hearn was doing some great stuff at the time. Nearly forgot Eddie Jobson's Theme Of Secrets. It was a stromng decade for instrumental music when you factor in Jean Michela Jarre, Vangelis and of course Tangerine Dream. Plenty of creativity going on which is all that matters.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 16:47
I know, true dinosaur albums and Neo-Prog. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 18:39
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Discipline ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 20:04
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The 80s were great. I love neo-prog but also all the cool avant-prog and zeuhl but there was a lot of great prog especially from nations playing catch up Only listing artists with great prog albums in the 80s King Crimson Rush Los Jaivas Eskaton Seru Giran Carciacs Camberwell Now This Heat Bacamarte Congreso Dün SBB Alan Parsons Project Kultivator Present Solaris Zamla Mammaz Manna The Raincoats Univers Zero Ring Aqsak Maboul Shub-Niggurath Asia Minor Thinking Plague Kenso Prazsky Vyber Art Zoyd Eloy Hawkwind Devil Doll Saga Arrigo Barnabe Robert Wyatt Eider STellaire Fred Frith Hardal Peter Hammill Super Freego Fulano Phish Rahmann Art Bears Picchio dal Pozzo Von Zamla Cai Yes P.L.J. band The Blue Effekt News From Babel Alas Etron Fou Leloubian Mr Sirius Skeleton Crew Ruins Allan Holdsworth Mike Oldfield Cassiber Debile Menthol Horizont Itoiz Eduard Artemyev Begnagrad Ain Soph When Het Igra Staklenih Perli Stormy Six L'Ensemble Raye Steve Hackett Hellebore After Dinner AMenophis East Orthotonics Camel Birdsongs of the Mesozoic Miriodor Sky Dixie Dregs Nazca Confusional Quartet Djam Karet Ur Kaos David Thomas Stromboli The Muffins Decibel Nuova Era Banda Elastica Terpandre Agnus Exodus Dragonfly Scapa Flow Planet P Project Tasbletom The Enid Jethro Tull Asia i could go on but you get the point! -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 20:17
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^Yes, some of that is prog!
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 04:26
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 04:33
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Thank you for all the nice contributions to this thread so far, and not least from Progaardvark, Paul and siLLy puPPy. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 05:33
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Something else, I've been wondered about, is whether any of the '80s Prog can be called "classic" - for instance, I can't see any difference between Halloween's Part One and the '70s Prog. Or is the term "classic" only proper to use about the '70s Prog? - which I'm most into. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 06:21
Classic and modern prog for me has always been divided by the before and after timeline of 1979/1980. That's how it was organised on my long-since-defunct music site where there were just two prog genres, with prog artists from 1967 to 1979 being listed under "Classic Prog" and all prog artists who came into being from 1980 onwards being listed under the sweeping generalisation of "Neo Prog", where "Neo" just means "New" or "Modern".
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 14:48
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One thing is sure, the classic era of Progressive Rock ended in the second half of the '70s. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 15:13
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1983: Amenophis - Amenophis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIwadRUlo0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIwadRUlo0 1983: Anyone's Daughter - Neve Sterne - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRHww2XuZyY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRHww2XuZyY 1983: Asia - Alpha - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQHrcGw-VurdkLm4fmkIyam0eQstZBG1k" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQHrcGw-VurdkLm4fmkIyam0eQstZBG1k 1983: Bacamarte - Depois Do Fim - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nK0JdQKOlb1w5JeGbsw7J6nURPrPtfcZA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nK0JdQKOlb1w5JeGbsw7J6nURPrPtfcZA 1983: Blue Oyster Cult - Revolution by Night - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_tAsexv4Yojm82uxezkpMtUajIxSksdY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_tAsexv4Yojm82uxezkpMtUajIxSksdY 1983: ELO - Secret Messages - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmVVLc3PLstRBzepE9s6AGCijFYdqDTtM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmVVLc3PLstRBzepE9s6AGCijFYdqDTtM 1983: Eloy - Performance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHkl_0UelQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHkl_0UelQ 1983: The Enid - Something Wicked This Way Comes - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nIh_LR6803DmbQV7nL0WZjVZCbhgF0MZo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nIh_LR6803DmbQV7nL0WZjVZCbhgF0MZo 1983: Gandalf - Magic Theatre - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6J-1yfYOtw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6J-1yfYOtw 1983: Steve Hackett - Highly Strung - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEY2r-H33C587jOTAntrEJgH" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEY2r-H33C587jOTAntrEJgH 1983: Jon & Vangelis - Private Collection - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLckxQipA9v1LdZVAXMJ1RIv8PyTt6NlVI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLckxQipA9v1LdZVAXMJ1RIv8PyTt6NlVI 1983: The Moody Blues - The Present - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l40OGpppveC6EIfBLbu3IYondbxyQYqrc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l40OGpppveC6EIfBLbu3IYoNdbxyQYqrc 1983: Mike Oldfield - Crises - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mnIwT6otfW-butm52qdD8RbGzXjzGmYi0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mnIwT6otfW-butm52qdD8RbGzXjzGmYi0 1983: Alan Parsons Project - Ammonia Avenue - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ltfr8msEF5od-iMxHYEFBEC" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ltfr8msEF5od-iMxHYEFBEC 1983: Pink Floyd - The Final Cut - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFEDE25F4A684239E" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFEDE25F4A684239E 1983: Robert Plant - The Principle of Moments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kzeBZu6XM13ZfbYI8CYp3-6Gy-QK0AQvg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kzeBZu6XM13ZfbYI8CYp3-6Gy-QK0AQvg 1983: Rainbow - Bent Out of Shape - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYPjvVfP-lTw_KATZ2dc6Il" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYPjvVfP-lTw_KATZ2dc6Il 1983: Saga - Heads or Tales - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q9CwrwfGHs&t=1447s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q9CwrwfGHs&t=1447s 1983: Klaus Schulze - Audentity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqgE4HFzRHXP-RSVghSTHq9l0X7fLTzBk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqgE4HFzRHXP-RSVghSTHq9l0X7fLTzBk 1983: Tangerine Dream - Hyperborea - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kMt4PWlakQ9_JMr1ToDQOy8kqHHCF4BVg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kMt4PWlakQ9_JMr1ToDQOy8kqHHCF4BVg 1983: Vangelis - Antarctica - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLWhNiMwvDQYyGaJxh3RcOcMpXQw5-GRA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLWhNiMwvDQYyGaJxh3RcOcMpXQw5-GRA 1983: YES - 90125 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nW0C1j_RpvQypX6RHJzN_zSxeDZ7ilOQA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nW0C1j_RpvQypX6RHJzN_zSxeDZ7ilOQA |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 15:35
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3 - ...to the power of three (1988) Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - S/T (1989) ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 21:03
The only band I can think of that bucked the trend was Eloy but that's very much a personal opinion. I enjoy Colours through to Time To Turn more than Dawn through to Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes. That said they are all good. Most classic seventies prog bands either lost the plot in the 80's or redefined their style. Eloy only made very slight modifications although even then the long form tracks disappeared and they eventually gave into the eighties with the not so good album Performance. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 21:07
I don't like either of those albums. The Three album is especially depressingly bad given the talent involved. Emeson,Lake and Powell was a better try although the line up never gelled for me and I would have much preferred Simon Phillips on the drum stool in the absence of Palmer. Not to say that Cozy wasn't a great drummer but he was more in the hard rock school of drumming. Stargazer is amazing! Phillips would have brought more to the table imo.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 02:38
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1984: Camel - Stationary Traveller - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG3_LLBE5Rqt36s1wAavOE105RK-3yqCB" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG3_LLBE5Rqt36s1wAavOE105RK-3yqCB 1984: Eloy - Metromania - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lo3F50DX02M4smgsbx-9H8CNP7cUTcuV8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lo3F50DX02M4smgsbx-9H8CNP7cUTcuV8 1984: The Enid - The Stand - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l6_j8xpOP0EjIhbI5_X1lBKgWQWSuzjlE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l6_j8xpOP0EjIhbI5_X1lBKgWQWSuzjlE 1984: David Gilmour - About Face - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3D151F45287469FA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3D151F45287469FA 1984: Hawkwind - This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsZMlq2c7Udf6z6wfN4cbnE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsZMlq2c7Udf6z6wfN4cbnE 1984: Isidurs Bane - Sagan om den Irlandska Algen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_170HLztr5xUsKqvC3gW_gjlUUVpz6-o" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_170HLztr5xUsKqvC3gW_gjlUUVpz6-o 1984: Jade Warrior - Horizen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kXKu1j5Bd5onVVVXUem_qeHvpWedEHRS0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kXKu1j5Bd5oNVVVXUem_qeHvpWedEHRS0 1984: Mike Oldfield - Discovery - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mmUdF5w48mVSTZqpcsodhgqdd44509wXo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mmUdF5w48mVSTZqpcsodhgqdd44509wXo 1984: Osiris - Myths & Legends - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CsxMOUW1qo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CsxMOUW1qo 1984: Alan Parsons Project - Vulture Culture - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt_U_yJJdBhiCHC7RaGRNtI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt_U_yJJdBhiCHC7RaGRNtI 1984: Solaris - Martian Chronicles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoVPQlFbN5g" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoVPQlFbN5g 1984: Tangerine Dream - Poland - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n0eXbMIgwwBiO0IX0xeZ0g0wOrltVrBXE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n0eXbMIgwwBiO0IX0xeZ0g0wOrltVrBXE 1984: Vangelis - Soil Festivities - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OAHzyBIas" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OAHzyBIas 1984: Rick Wakeman, Jeff Wayne & Kevin Peek - Beyond the Planets - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsBW-Gidl8xtqrXJs-w2cmd" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsBW-Gidl8xtqrXJs-w2cmd 1984: Roger Waters - The Pros & Cons 0f Hitch-Hiking - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4S4hqzoPYGSTOnbGutKs28BGGLoCNfHI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4S4hqzoPYGSTOnbGutKs28BGGLoCNfHI |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 05:15
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 07:31
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1985: Asia - Astra - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lraqar9sMcAW72R8XQDXI7G-t1-RPJco4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lraqar9sMcAW72R8XQDXI7G-t1-RPJco4 1985: Kate Bush - Hounds of Love - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtcQe2L4gw-jvukMJSwqHNd" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtcQe2L4gw-jvukMJSwqHNd 1985: Dead Can Dance - Spleen and Ideal - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvJyP7Xpp5OY1VLD3bzqL4y" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvJyP7Xpp5OY1VLD3bzqL4y 1985: Deyss - At King - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLavUIX9I_L5MHiRAt4GjhnXWIy_1YUBIw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLavUIX9I_L5MHiRAt4GjhnXWIy_1YUBIw 1985: Differences - The Voyage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkpX44O27U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkpX44O27U 1985: The Enid - The Spell - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCD9CD0DE5046968B" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCD9CD0DE5046968B 1985: Annie Haslam & Louis Clark - Still Life - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lnGR0wBGiJY6l5AyFrT-H7_WmTzHUVSd0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lnGR0wBGiJY6l5AyFrT-H7_WmTzHUVSd0 1985: Hawkwind - The Chronicle of the Black Sword - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvZ1J_Yr7bgxri9k4ql0W-8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvZ1J_Yr7bgxri9k4ql0W-8 1985: Horizont - Summer in Town - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G345jq3ZMPM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G345jq3ZMPM 1985: Iconoclasta - Reminiscencias - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nhSeaPMBXXHCbjL1beQB_hkPcePH9JnbM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nhSeaPMBXXHCbjL1beQB_hkPcePH9JnbM 1985: Jethro Tull - A Classic Case - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJgggsf5Eamh8YBAMNC_pfx" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJgggsf5Eamh8YBAMNC_pfx 1985: Kenso - Kenso III - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvZM-WmdUDVTygHillhG-M1tIbhyZvkoY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvZM-WmdUDVTygHillhG-M1tIbhyZvkoY 1985: Not Drowning, Waving - Little Desert - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mIQHJkG3rfiSr8oSGssxFyYfbfg3LNFeQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mIQHJkG3rfiSr8oSGssxFyYfbfg3LNFeQ 1985: Outer Limits - Misty Moon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2mYJFDcPx8&t=3107s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2mYJFDcPx8&t=3107s 1985: Jean-Luc Ponty - Fables - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNVzYYIl_nVGxJazj3yDd8Tu-2PHh_qVQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNVzYYIl_nVGxJazj3yDd8Tu-2PHh_qVQ 1985: Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKEbAmF9ZNN3XTlzjYD-1-6" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKEbAmF9ZNN3XTlzjYD-1-6 1985: Tangerine Dream - Le Parc - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lsmX2VSg1qMvBTTRv6unoj1kGn2Le_KLo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lsmX2VSg1qMvBTTRv6unoj1kGn2Le_KLo 1985: Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAKBCdHlMy48RYq7q2DLFJE-aZjAtzYgl" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAKBCdHlMy48RYq7q2DLFJE-aZjAtzYgl 1985: Underground Zero - Never Reach the Stars - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEY5WFLJG3VY9ykUtfIntE1L" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEY5WFLJG3VY9ykUtfIntE1L 1985: Vangelis - Mask - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lu3C7fzaVeUP5klZnJ-FmWO" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lu3C7fzaVeUP5klZnJ-FmWO |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 08:42
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 08:53
Unfortunately, I'm unable to reminisce about Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias as I can't remember what it sounds like and I can barely remember how to spell it either.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 10:36
Could it have something to do with the way you're listening to(o) many albums?
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 10:59
Just my opinion but i find "classic" refers to the period where prog was most popular, most productive and most innovative. Great prog has been created ever since but never as a huge explosion of activity as in the years from 1969 - 1974. I surmise "classic" refers to an era as a whole and not the quality of music from individual artists that followed. Prog was new then so the WOW factor made it unlike anything else. Now nothing is really a surprise no matter how enjoyable.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 11:00
Yes, that's exactly right, bearing in mind I listen to at least ten albums a day, I must have listened to at least two thousand albums since I last listened to Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 11:12
Maybe you could upgrade your brain to a positronic one like Data has? He can listen to 150 compositions at the same time (that would be 1500 albums a day!). But if you're concerned about analyzing the aesthetics of the music, Data recommends listening to 10 or less compositions simultaneously (which is no slouch at 100 albums a day). ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 11:46
I like what Cozy brought since Simon would've aped Carl's style a little too closely. Too bad they didn't do a second album together. I like 2/3 of ABWH. "Themes," "Fist of Fire," "Brother of Mine," "Birthright" and "Let's Pretend" are great. As for 3 (or Three), it's unforgivably subpar. If legacy prog stalwarts weren't involved, nobody would care about that album. It would get zero mentions! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 11:49
It may be a lot easier for you to reminisce about Iconoclasta's self-titled 1983 debut, which is just as good.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 11:54
I'd swap Alpha for The Green Album by Eddie Jobson / Zinc. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 12:04
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^ I wouldn't. Eddie Jobson's Green/Zinc is only a 3-star album for me.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 12:58
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after second thought ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 13:17
Actually, if talking about numbers of releases each year, this is not correct according to RYM's informations. Their statistics show that each year of the 21st century has so far had more releases than in the '70s, and a lot of years even twice as many. ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/ )
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 14:14
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1986: Ain Soph - Hat and Field - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjOZX9eoyPQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjOZX9eoyPQ 1986: Bellaphon - Delphi 1986: Coda - Sounds of Passion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gXYs3I6FqA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gXYs3I6FqA 1986: ELO - Balance of Power - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nNXvaTc2yHbSCPGYoPigCsPCWfTDlDBZE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nNXvaTc2yHbSCPGYoPigCsPCWfTDlDBZE 1986: Emerson, Lake & Powell - Emerson, Lake & Powell - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtKb2sKbN9e7RqzfFtnb3k0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtKb2sKbN9e7RqzfFtnb3k0 1986: The Enid - Salome - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQVwn91QbwizunsvtnP3OkQcmzdGUx0e4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQVwn91QbwizunsvtnP3OkQcmzdGUx0e4 1986: Peter Gabriel - So - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZ0AbdT4Z2g-vhT8LX6j1wh" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZ0AbdT4Z2g-vhT8LX6j1wh 1986: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Breakthrough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlF2k95ERpI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlF2k95ERpI 1986: GTR - GTR - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJY8mUzYsew&t=1715s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJY8mUzYsew&t=1715s 1986: High Tide - Interesting Times - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRYkAIs2BbQ&t=1557s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRYkAIs2BbQ&t=1557s 1986: Horizont - Summer in Town - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G345jq3ZMPM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G345jq3ZMPM 1986: Outer Limits - A Boy Playing the Magical Bugle Horn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsAOf79Qd50&t=1023s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsAOf79Qd50&t=1023s 1986: Pageant - La Mosaique de la Reverie - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k--kLKn03ZWGHQ49EpvOTECGhs7rI0Em4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k--kLKn03ZWGHQ49EpvOTECGhs7rI0Em4 1986: Klaus Schulze - Dreams - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBy5IiXN2IA&t=2687s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBy5IiXN2IA&t=2687s 1986: Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koE4rtsIJ002pzrNOUIjuhnft_Aun9pkY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koE4rtsIJ002pzrNOUIjuhnft_Aun9pkY 1986: Tangerine Dream - Underwater Sunlight - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ltJyvHBGmdFOcB5oZfaYZ8ao0uu3YDwiM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ltJyvHBGmdFOcB5oZfaYZ8ao0uu3YDwiM 1986: Vangelis & Irene Papas - Rapsodies - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuXW5zSOIja28Ew_so8i8Yk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuXW5zSOIja28Ew_so8i8Yk |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 14:33
Alpha isn't even as good as Asia, and neither are prog. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 14:35
I'd say, classic Prog is not just the Prog from The Classic Era but also a specific kind of Prog, and the term "classic" can refer to this specific, original kind of Prog, too. On that basis, we can for instance talk about Retro Prog as similar to the classic Prog. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 14:36
Oof! ELO, GTR and PG didn't make prog albums that year. GTR's is pure sappy AOR, even with Hackett and Howe onboard. Schulze's Dreams really isn't that memorable. 2.5 stars at best. Not a good period for him. Pageant's debut La Mosaique de la Reverie is easily a 5-star recording and a contender for best album of '86! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 14:40
Oh well, there goes any remaining prog credibility I had left here, having just added ASIA to my Symphonic Prog blog.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 14:42
I'm a serious Wetton fan but I can't pretend Asia wasn't a big step down from U.K. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 15:23
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I guess it won't suprise you, Paul, when I say that surely not all the albums you list would get the stamp from me as "proper Progressive Rock", even they're approved by Wikipedia. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 15:31
No, me neither. I certainly wouldn't classify ELO, Peter Gabriel or Talk Talk as Progressive Rock, but I have no objection to them being listed in ProgArchives under Crossover Prog.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 16:17
Musically I agree, but at least JW got a decent paycheck for once!! Prog doesn't seem to be the best-paying gig in town! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 16:29
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1987: Peter Bardens - Seen One Earth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjg5hKus44&t=4s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjg5hKus44&t=4s 1987: Bellaphon - Firefly - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZpdK8iEAOkrZBggOanPGe1N2ehbgQLCV" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZpdK8iEAOkrZBggOanPGe1N2ehbgQLCV 1987: Blind Owl - Debut at Dusk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGYivvYnGOY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGYivvYnGOY 1987: Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtnI3ZajBi26GqVjE0RVPXN" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtnI3ZajBi26GqVjE0RVPXN 1987: Deep Purple - The House of Blue Light - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lIc3mzD7w_mrXvLceyJF_izU81pPyk-s8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lIc3mzD7w_mrXvLceyJF_izU81pPyk-s8 1987: Deyys - Vision in the Dark - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLavUIX9I_L5NRiKUf7WiHhSpLe2i4zf4C" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLavUIX9I_L5NRiKUf7WiHhSpLe2i4zf4C 1987: Geoff Downes & New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F21GrmhReu0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F21GrmhReu0 1987: Ezra Winston - Myth of the Chrysavides - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOUFzPRrau0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOUFzPRrau0 1987: Chris Hinze Combination - The Hunter - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lpEaYUHOWQOAkSQqspKgcXJDRKpmoGKc0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lpEaYUHOWQOAkSQqspKgcXJDRKpmoGKc0 1987: Iconoclasta - Soliloquio - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVdWCsONL-E" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVdWCsONL-E 1987: Isidurs Bane - Sagan om Ringen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lb4VTYiHAwldgLUR6I5FMx-YF-Py8fh9s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lb4VTYiHAwldgLUR6I5FMx-YF-Py8fh9s 1987: Jethro Tull - Crest of a Knave - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIu0aBMU-Yt83zXHg-PF3W9" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIu0aBMU-Yt83zXHg-PF3W9 1987: Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Masque: Songs & Planets - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_9Xc0qZEb0AJewjT4ckwaYIS7as2Qmp8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n_9Xc0qZEb0AJewjT4ckwaYIS7as2Qmp8 1987: Pat Metheny Group - Still Life (Talking) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mUBuF4zRuEaRpjvbhu6yClGhsdidNX2d8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mUBuF4zRuEaRpjvbhu6yClGhsdidNX2d8 1987: Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDFLftFzjjo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDFLftFzjjo 1987: Not Drowning, Waving - Cold and the Crackle - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kntEQLLimOapPBZ_NjCe4LtL8uyQDVfs0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kntEQLLimOapPBZ_NjCe4LtL8uyQDVfs0 1987: Mike Oldfield - Islands - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jhfI5-pszA&t=2s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jhfI5-pszA&t=2s 1987: Outer Limits - The Scene of Pale Blue - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4A7lnwU5E" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4A7lnwU5E 1987: Alan Parsons Project - Gaudi - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lsg83gK94FbOdNLwvpRooVs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lsg83gK94FbOdNLwvpRooVs 1987: Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n08I7C9aGvUGTWmENUINUSQNiV1BVZ_cs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n08I7C9aGvUGTWmENUINUSQNiV1BVZ_cs 1987: Tangerine Dream - Tyger - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mB5ucN83CjtsWEpcuXpDZ-VD2Z6ZsicJ8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mB5ucN83CjtsWEpcuXpDZ-VD2Z6ZsicJ8 1987: Vermillion Sands - Water Blue - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCOLo3qiFvY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCOLo3qiFvY 1987: Rick Wakeman - The Gospels 1987: Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koI10jUmXAaS4Dr1TJKWk8NW4l9cWbrv4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_koI10jUmXAaS4Dr1TJKWk8NW4l9cWbrv4 |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 16:54
I would call it "I-wish-it-was Prog". ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 26 2023 at 18:25
True! I bet John never had to consider Uber or Door Dash, though (not that there's anything wrong with that). ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 01:54
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1988: Peter Bardens - Speed of Light 1988: Blue Oyster Cult - Imaginos - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kblpVdI4mTFTE52qrpjwqamQPLnHPAlJI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kblpVdI4mTFTE52qrpjwqamQPLnHPAlJI 1988: Dead Can Dance - The Serpent's Egg - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt31Sn1p3m7JjiUKysJFuAw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt31Sn1p3m7JjiUKysJFuAw 1988: Devil Doll - The Girl Who Was Death - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GvVwVnlpB8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GvVwVnlpB8 1988: Edhels - Still Dream - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20bBQ_KlzaU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20bBQ_KlzaU 1988: The Enid - The Seed and the Sower - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8B9JIRfmK8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8B9JIRfmK8 1988: Halloween - Part One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRTM0UJ4r9M" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRTM0UJ4r9M 1988: Hawkwind - The Xenon Codex - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvuOSybLZT6hx13ZdAXOZ3F" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvuOSybLZT6hx13ZdAXOZ3F 1988: Midas - Beyond the Clean Air - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kcWTp09xl0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kcWTp09xl0 1988: Pink Floyd - Delicate Sound of Thunder - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHf5IftRKPs&t=458s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHf5IftRKPs&t=458s 1988: Tangerine Dream - Optical Race - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzFvZmwNlqs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzFvZmwNlqs 1988: Vangelis - Direct - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuFKTL6b3fnQ1YqFePC1Fa1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuFKTL6b3fnQ1YqFePC1Fa1 1988: Rick Wakeman & Ramon Remedios - A Suite of Gods - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtgiI7SPaX18D2MaLYdrXcw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtgiI7SPaX18D2MaLYdrXcw 1988: Ezra Winston - Myth of the Chrysavides - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW8Q84GX3ho" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW8Q84GX3ho |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 02:46
I better correct this to that they're approved to be on Wikipedia's Timeline, as they not necessarily are considered to be Prog in Wikipedia's articles about the artists - whatever the reasons are for all this, as it's rather strange and not good for Wikipedia's reputation. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 02:47
also nice to see some other non-true-dinosaur albums on your lists, Paul.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 03:35
often overlooked in his canon , he had relocated back to Greece (from the UK) and this was him trying out his new studio. Has a different feel to a lot of his albums (as exepcted) and not a bad track. Those 5 stars I heartily concur with
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 03:52
Well, they're all from 1988, so they're all "non-true-dinosaur albums" from your perspective.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 04:10
I was talking about all your lists here, and it looks like your memory is NOT quite good anymore, so I better repeat my definition:
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 06:52
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OK, a few of those might not be "prog", and you will see the dramatic decline throughout the decade. 12 Art Zoyd Generation Sans Futur Fra 1980
12 Circus Tearless, Fearless and Even Less Swz 1980
12 Eskaton 4 Visions Fra 1980 Zeuhl 12 Harmonium En Tournee Can 1980
12 Marino, Frank & Mahogany Rush What's Next Can 1980
11 Abus
Dangereux Le Quatrieme Mouvement Fra 1980 11 Art
Zoyd Symphonie Pour Le Jour Ou Bruleront
Les Cités Fra 1980
11 Asia Minor Between Flesh and Divine Fra 1980
11 Beausoleil, Bobby Lucifer Rising USA 1980 11 Black Sabbath Heaven and Hell Eng 1980 11 Emeraude Geoffroy Fra 1980
11 Enbor Katebegiak Bsq 1980 11 Ginga Rale Band Wir Bedauern... Ost 1980 11 Iron
Maiden Iron Maiden Eng 1980 11 Khan, Steve Evidence USA 1980
11 Maneige Montreal 6AM Can 1980
11 Present Triskaidekaphobie Bel 1980
11 Riley, Terry Shri Camel USA 1980
11 Santana, Devadip Carlos The Swing of Delight USA 1980 11 Slick, Grace Dreams USA 1980
11 Syncope Syncope Can 1980
11 Talking Heads Remain In Light USA 1980 12 Dün Eros Fra 1981 12 Itoiz Alkolea Bsq 1981 11 However Sudden Dusk USA 1981 11 Jaivas,
Los Alturas de Machu Picchu Chl 1981 11 King Crimson Discipline Eng 1981
11 Present Triskaidekaphobie Bel 1981 11 Univers
Zero Ceux Du Dehors Bel 1981 12 Dire Straits Love Over Gold Eng 1982
11 Art Zoyd Phase IV Fra 1982 11 Debile
Menthol Emile au Jardin Patrologique Swz 1982 11 Hubbs, Stan Crystal USA 1982
11 Khan, Steve Blades (aka Modern Times) USA 1982
11 Plastic People of the Universe Kolejnice Duni (1977-1982) Cze 1982 11 Theil, Bob So Far... Sco 1982 12 Bacamarte Depois Do Fim Bra 1983 12 Marillion Script For a Jester's Tear Eng 1983 12 Violent
Femmes Violent Femmes USA 1983 11 Eskaton Fiction Fra 1983 11 Khan, Steve Eyewitness USA 1983
11 Pink Floyd The Final Cut Eng 1983
11 Talking Heads Speaking In Tongues USA 1983 13 Univers
Zero UZED Bel 1984 12 Art
Zoyd Le Mariage du Ciel et l'Enfer Fra 1984 12 Jaivas,
Los Obras De Violeta Parra Chl 1984 12 Talking Heads Stop Making Sense USA 1984 12 Supertramp Brother Where You Bound Eng 1985
11 Cult, The Love Eng 1985
11 Harper, Roy Jugula Eng 1985
11 Hellebore Il y a des Jours Fra 1985 11 Present Le Poison Qui Rend Fou Bel 1985 11 News From Babel Letters Home Eng 1986 11 Tangerine Dream Green Desert (1973/1986) Ger 1986 11 5uu's with Motor Totemist Guild Elements USA 1988 11 Talk Talk Spirit of Eden Eng 1988 12 Tangle Edge In Search of A New Dawn Nor 1989
12 Lenny Kravitz Let Love Rule USA 1989 11 Cooper, Lindsay Oh, Moscow Eng 1989
11 Eat Sell
Me a God Eng 1989 11 Noir
Désir Veuillez Rendre l'âme (ŕ
Qui Elle Appartient) Fra 1989 ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 08:10
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^ 11 Asia Minor Between Flesh and Divine Fra 1980 11 Jaivas, Los Alturas de Machu Picchu Chl 1981 12 Bacamarte Depois Do Fim Bra 1983 Nice to see these ones listed again. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 08:40
There was NO decline throughout the decade, just a change in tastes and styles. While symphonic prog and classic 70s styles were diminishing, other styles of prog were either thriving (such as neo-prog, zeuhl and avant-prog) or just being born (progressive metal and various ethnic hybrids from nations playing catch up). And we certainly can't leave out the unique mix of prog and punk most developed by the Cardiacs. For those stuck in the 70s paradigm it was indeed a decline but for those who could embrace completely new ways of approaching progressive music, the 80s were the second wave. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 08:44
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Here's the so-called decline of the 80s ending in 1989. Was it prog's finest moment as far as popularity or volume? Of course not but prog was hardly the dead dog it's made out to be. These artists were responsible for the massive prog revival in the 90s and beyond. Prog rock top albums: http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1989/g:progressive%2drock/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1989/g:progressive%2drock/ Prog metal top albums: http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1989/g:progressive%2dmetal/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1989/g:progressive%2dmetal/
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 12:36
Direct is one of his best albums, IMO! I've loved it since '88! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 27 2023 at 16:36
Apart from the notable exception of Dream Theater I don't see that at all from those lists. Echolyn and Spock's Beard from USA and Anglagard, Par Lindh Project, Anekdoten and The Flower Kings from Sweden had a lot to do with it and they don't relate to those bands particularly. The nearest thing to a movement was when Par Lindh formed the 'Swedish Art Rock Society' with friends in 91 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A4r_Lindh#endnote_PLP" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A4r_Lindh#endnote_PLP ) with the intention to revive the traditional symphonic rock style. Unlike the seventies when a few notable bands made prog what it was (ie ''The Big Six'' plus a few other important influential bands) , the 90's was a more general move back to bands that could write their own songs and perform live as opposed to the over produced tripe that littered the 80's. I would even give Guns N Roses a certain amount of credit for the prog revival because they were 'real' not some manufactured corporate rock entity. Partly also the nostalgia for the classic old bands had seen many of them return and were touring regularly. There were a lot of dynamics in play. Of course we have the ever popular 'what is prog anyway?' argument. If you are trying to pull a strand through from the seventies then its hard to hear that in many art rock bands who just want to be themselves. Do they set goals or just make the best music they can. It's just about attitude at the end of the day but also taking power back which is so important. The likes of Steven Wilson and Marillion have very much learnt to do that and so they can be what they need to be. Perhaps they learnt that from others or they are just bloody minded and determined enough to do it. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 00:48
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During most of the 1980s, I lived, worked and performed in Tulsa, Oklahoma USA, which is normally not known for its love of anything progressive! However, I did see a number of amazing prog concerts, including;
Groups that came through that I missed include Bob Fripp & his Crafty Guitarists (I saw them in Chicago) and others. Tulsa was quite a happening place for music back then! As a gigging bassist, I was constantly involved in various projects with performance artists, bands and solo acts. Non-prog concerts I enjoyed seeing included Alice Cooper, Aerosmith and Cheap Trick! It was a fun place back then, but I think it has changed & not for the better. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 01:15
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1989: Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz9mrbq0cYIASUPCn7d20-Dy" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz9mrbq0cYIASUPCn7d20-Dy 1989: Kate Bush - The Sensual World - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtBgK6fG7MP0Ucp5i_0PmMp" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtBgK6fG7MP0Ucp5i_0PmMp 1989: Devil Doll - The Girl Who Was... Death - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYdcApobjTY&t=497s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYdcApobjTY&t=497s 1989: Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_li0d7h1v8158uiQviXYaU0s-YVGLUiFr8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_li0d7h1v8158uiQviXYaU0s-YVGLUiFr8 1989: The Enid - Final Noise - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k28o8NM3oOFyZOXFsTuetZFFBTmYbP9sE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k28o8NM3oOFyZOXFsTuetZFFBTmYbP9sE 1989: Peter Gabriel - Passion (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYfGmIinkpf7Ivicuuu69PS" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYfGmIinkpf7Ivicuuu69PS 1989: Annie Haslam - Annie Haslam - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiYdmM7jTXYZqL1Jvk8VZr4zZgsjKnq6M" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiYdmM7jTXYZqL1Jvk8VZr4zZgsjKnq6M 1989: Hecenia - Legendes - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laqD3eyujzmDwnSpqoWwGWbjSClYyS9Yk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_laqD3eyujzmDwnSpqoWwGWbjSClYyS9Yk 1989: Steve Howe - Guitar Player - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kucIkPjiANeQ6flwGbCS14u7WrRbVRc4s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kucIkPjiANeQ6flwGbCS14u7WrRbVRc4s 1989: Isidurs Bane - Cheval: Volonte de Rocher - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJBD2unN_8WGxFyGl6QSZD-ZcC-QrTjN8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJBD2unN_8WGxFyGl6QSZD-ZcC-QrTjN8 1989: Kenso - Sparta - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiwgIAEbRSZjpZN-o9s5tLf_sAgNayDjo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kiwgIAEbRSZjpZN-o9s5tLf_sAgNayDjo 1989: Not Drowning, Waving - Claim - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l8FUVX4GG_1FWG1d01RCBmRuCPRCX_AoA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l8FUVX4GG_1FWG1d01RCBmRuCPRCX_AoA 1989: Nuova Era - Dopo L'Infinito - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSgloZdSNE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSgloZdSNE 1989: Outer Limits - Outer Mania - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvDwlHMzpsc36WtT3zmbSJYghLKxQu8cI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvDwlHMzpsc36WtT3zmbSJYghLKxQu8cI 1989: Anthony Phillips - Missing Links 1: Finger Painting - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEY3Cy0_03m9cYuD2CfQjsQ0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEY3Cy0_03m9cYuD2CfQjsQ0 1989: Shamall - Journey to a Nightmare - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgc7ACFgiKPpyKO7m2scYmxUSTzTBNvX8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kgc7ACFgiKPpyKO7m2scYmxUSTzTBNvX8 1989: Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nzDcE4P9uRjxbaVYOEh_CrGpRIeCDYmzg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nzDcE4P9uRjxbaVYOEh_CrGpRIeCDYmzg 1989: Vangelis - Themes - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvZW7c54RSD12QMwalJjA8b" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvZW7c54RSD12QMwalJjA8b 1989: Rick Wakeman - Black Knights at the Court of Ferdinand IV - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsZy3vThTRSMU3cCcQLa1np" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsZy3vThTRSMU3cCcQLa1np 1989: Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfj29rbSMPjIte518hQmvYzTwbXiGSXqk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfj29rbSMPjIte518hQmvYzTwbXiGSXqk |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 02:15
It depends of course on which definition of Progressive Rock is used. If RYM's, their statistics say, 360 releases in 1980 vs 220 releases in 1989. ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/ )
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 07:01
Mmmhhh!!!!... It's more a question of propositions or offers from bands/artistes than a change of taste of the crowds. Yeah, RIO & Zeuhl (70's styles/genre) lasted roughly until 85 before also crumbling/sinking (in terms of number of releases) into the second half of that decade. AFAIK (not an expert), neo-prog thrived until Fish left Marillion (87?) and until Brave (93?), they were nearly a spent force; and IQ wasn't doing any better during those years, either ... and it's not poppy-prog It Bites that will change things. The years 86 to 91 are truly dreadful (not just for prog, FTM), and not just IMHO.  Progmetal was just metal music back then. The 80's PM into PA is mostly rewriting history and/or PA revisionism. I know there is a "conspiracy" on PA to rehabilitate the 80's as a normal (good) decade, by seeing the amount of 80's polls series in the last two years of the forum, but the 80's still sucked because of its second half. Of course, the weak start (81 to 85) didn't help either.. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 08:03
However to characterize it, there was not so much of it according to RYM's informations: 33 releases in 1988 and 66 in 1989. ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-metal/ ) ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 08:15
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There was plenty of good music around in the late-1980's. We just didn't know where to find it without the Internet.
For instance, out of that 1989 albums list above, the only three albums I knew of before joining ProgArchives were by Kate Bush, Tears for Fears & Vangelis.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 09:07
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^ At least, not all true dinosaur albums. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 09:53
I'd say, there was a lot of good music in the whole '80s. Actually, it's my second favourite all-music decade next after the '70s, and not least thanks to various kind of Punk.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 10:11
Yes, and if you add Neo Prog and Synth-Pop/New Wave to the equation too, it more than doubles the amount of good music there was around in the eighties.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 10:20
Certainly yes! ....or at least for the Poppers. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 10:47
Yeah, but we"re talking about good music (prog or not)    ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 13:27
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But when talking about Prog Metal in the late-'80s, I finally today, after a year and many listenings, got almost into Voivod's Nothingface, which I'm not so little happy about, as I've had my doubts but have been much up to being able to do it.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 13:33
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Did anyone mention Bob Fripp's amazing League of Gentlemen? ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 13:40
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As long as I'm on a Bob-Fripp-1980's tear, let's not forget his impressive work with Andy Summers!! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 16:24
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Reissues are again required for both Fripp/Summers albums! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 23:24
Thanks for reminding me of their second album, "Bewitched!" https://www.dgmlive.com/news/summers-and-fripp-two-albums-now-on-streaming-platforms" rel="nofollow - https://www.dgmlive.com/news/summers-and-fripp-two-albums-now-on-streaming-platforms ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 28 2023 at 23:51
| The Police were actually close to becoming a prog band in my eyes when they stopped (perhaps thats the reason!). Andy Summers (ex Soft Machine) and Stewart Copeland (ex Curved Air) had already touched on the genre outside of this band. Shame they didn't continue although Sting did a crossover jazz fusion album Bring On The Night which is quite fun. IMO! |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 29 2023 at 03:47
I wish, Paul, you had more respect for the OPs and for the strong feelings, I think not so few of us have for Progressive Rock as a genre, because at least for me, it is not easy to accept the way you act.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 29 2023 at 12:22
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Thank you very much for some good discussion here. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 30 2023 at 01:11
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I'm still on a Bob Fripp tear! The album by the Roche sisters featured Bob Fripp and Tony Levin. Fripp's guitar work on this song is sublime. I find this music rarely acknowledged in prog land. Sorry, 1979, oh well! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 30 2023 at 04:54
I could mention a tracks "conspiracy" and a couple more. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 30 2023 at 06:55
It doesn't look Prog to me, either. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 30 2023 at 20:34
Compared to what, exactly? Did you listen to Fripp's guitar work in any of those clips? ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 31 2023 at 06:47
No comments, Paul? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 31 2023 at 11:34
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Tears For Fears were 'Art rock' but then so was Kate Bush. Both were equally important and both were a massive respite from so much dismal over produced 80's shyte from artists with zero talent. If we dismiss Seeds Of Love as not being worthy of the tag 'prog' then we can equally dismiss The Sensual World IMO. The idea of 'crossover prog' is just a massive deceit imo. Basically a bunch of artists that we randomly like or don't like that didn't make commercial driven music. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: October 31 2023 at 18:27
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The main point here concerning Tears for Fears is that they are not included in PA, and thus are not considered to be Prog by PA. So if to respect my OP, the band should not be listed, neither if to respect the PA rules for Progressive Music Lounges. Personally, I consider The Seeds of Love to be Pop-Rock, and so do Paul, I think. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |