What band should be in PA?

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Edited by bardberic - May 24 2023 at 12:01

I feel bad saying “should be” because I could have pushed for these to be included, but I figure if it was “meant to be”, then discussion would have gone the right way, people would have been convinced, and they would have been added.   Sometimes it comes to suggesting at the right time, and definitely making the right arguments to the right people, suggesting the right material and suggesting to the right category.

Some of these have been suggested and I very much supported but discussion just didn't develop and in the case of Stereolab, I have at length at various times expressed my concern about the addition. When another favourite of mine, Pram, was included (perhaps in part due to my enthusiasm for the act) which I also expressed concerns about including despite putting it in the greater Prog spectrum myself, I then knew that Stereolab might be more seriously considered. Some of these it's mostly for one album.

So rather than saying these SHOULD be in PA, I consider all of these to be on the Prog spectrum or on the edge of the Prog spectrum (some much more peripheral than others and it sows depend on the release).


The Quicksilver Messenger Service
Niechęć
Phew
Fishmans (for Long Season)
Natural Snow Building (listen to Daughters of Darkness)
Boards of Canada
Chelsea Wolfe
Extradition
Exuma
Yo La Tenga
Nina Hagen Band (Naturtrane is so great)
Bruno Pernadas
Pere Ubu
The Velvet Underground
Nico
 Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho (for Paêbirú)
Egisto Macchi
Ennio Morricone
Janko Niiloivic
Stereolab
Xiu Xiu
Aphex Twin
Jarboe
Broadcast
Flaming Lips
Donovan
Donald Byrd for Electric Byrd on JRF (I along with the Byrd down for even suggesting this many years ago by someone who “discovered” it years later. Weird. But the Sun Ra for Languidity etc.
Nick Drake (enough of a Prog folk relation imo)
Air (for 10, OO HZ Legends especially)
Portishead (kind of, Third has a Krautrock influence).
Cream (as Proto Prog- a much more controversial one than most that I have suggested, and spent along time arguing for this)
The Necks
Uboa
Dr John, The Night Tripper (Gris-Gris – suggest to fans of Beefheart)

So many more.... Please excuse me if I made mistakes and some of these are in PA already. I will evaluate things (music and arguments) for Prog Related and Proto-Prog, and take that duty seriously, but on a more personal level, I generally ceased to care what is or isn't included in PA many years ago (something to consider for my own personal and shared lists). So much of what I like is on the periphery of Prog and so much that is art and progressive music I love, I don't consider to be Prog

Trillion, cause why not. A pretty solid American Heavy Prog band. Reminds the listener of New England and they are on this site.

Sean Trane wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: Boi_da_boi_124 wrote: What prog-related, prog-esque, or overlooked prog bands/artists should have a place in PA? My picks: John Coltrane(Jazz/Rock Fusion) Gary Numan(Prog-Related) Grateful Dead(Psychedelic/Space Rock or Prog-Related) Two and three absolutely. But when did ever Coltrane fuse his jazz with anything rock? Well, I know his music more than well enough to answer that myself: Never. -While Miles took notes and listened to what his younger bandmembers and girlfriends were into (around the time of Coltrane's untimely passing) and added funk & rock grooves into his gradually more electrified jazz. -Post his 1965-album A Love Supreme, Coltrane spent the two last years of his life going even further out into the spiritual side of avant-garde/free jazz. Always sticking to the acoustic standard jazz "instrument park". The story of jazzfusion had hardly begun in 1967. And while he (as many of the 1960's jazz greats) inspired many outside of the jazz field, he's merely a footnote in the "makings of" this particular story. Progressive and psychedelic  Jazz, maybe? One could say that McCoy Tyner could have some rock in his 70's album. Ditto for Alice.

Not sure I think that McCoy Tyner or Alice Coltrane ever actually recorded an album full of material that qualify them for a place in the PA-index either. What albums would that be? They were certainly progressive and got themselves groovin' during the early 1970's, but was there ever an element of "rock"?  I would find it easier to make an argument for Pharoah Sanders than both of them.

There is a lot of stuff that I like that isn't here that would be interesting to see reviewed. I would put a shout out for Love as fronted by the brilliant Arthur Lee. Forever Changes is a classic album and very influential.

Saperlipopette! wrote: Cristi wrote: [QUOTE=Saperlipopette!] Or maybe suggest some of these bands, see what happens, and not just complain of their absence on PA. If suggested, some of them will be cleared and added. But still, they have to be suggested for evaluation.  Sheesh. It wasn't a complaint at all! I know suggesting/adding bands is time consuming - which is why a usually don't bother. I was just inspired by this thread/topic to have a look at my fusion collection, and making this post.

Saperlipopette! wrote: Cristi wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: Cristi wrote: [QUOTE=Saperlipopette!] Or maybe suggest some of these bands, see what happens, and not just complain of their absence on PA. If suggested, some of them will be cleared and added. But still, they have to be suggested for evaluation.  Sheesh. It wasn't a complaint at all! I know suggesting/adding bands is time consuming - which is why a usually don't bother. I was just inspired by this thread/topic to have a look at my fusion collection, and making this post. ok, my bad then.  You can still create discussion around these bands, post some listening links, some of them might end up under evaluation.  I could, but each time I've tried posting links for the last six months or so, I get the "server not found"-message when I try to use them. Not sure if it's a local problem or a PA-issue.

Alice Cooper