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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7413 |
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^ Wow, thanks!
It really makes the effort worthwhile when you get feedback like this.
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David, your work is highly appreciated by Eclectic Team:
The whole team says their definite yes. No wonder, because it's really good. ![]() Done now.
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7413 |
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^ I can't add videos either, and I registered in June 2011. Someone I knew in those days who joined about 17 months earlier in January 2010, but is no longer here, was able to do so however. I've just happened to notice that every post I've seen reporting this particular error has been from people who registered in 2011 or later, and those members who have helped them out and added the video for them have all registered in 2010 or earlier, so I suspect that the issue is something to do with the number assigned to your profile. I have a feeling (not confirmed at all, but based on what I have just said) that there is a certain maximum number that the 'Search and add more videos' feature can cope with. This theory could possibly be confirmed if there are some spare user ID numbers (member_profile.asp?PF=) available below somewhere around the 27500 mark that admins could reassign your account to. I'm pretty sure that if this could be done somehow, you would suddenly find that you could add videos!
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I did not know about that. I suppose I'm in the latter group (registered in 2013) because every time I try to upload a video, I get an error message. ![]() Anyway, we could discuss it more in this thread if you want.
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^What an apropos topic, as I just received a similar error while trying to Update Album Art in the Admin portion of the website. Despite being a Special Collaborator, I have no way to access this section, so could I humbly request a fellow admin to take a look at the entry for the Attention! Scott Walker! compilation that was recently uploaded? The cover art failed to load and I can't replace it with my own alternative.
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7413 |
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^ It's a well documented bug which affects many users of the site, and there is little likelihood of a fix anytime soon. The majority of members who registered before the turn of the last decade (circa 2010/2011) seem to be unaffected by it, but if you registered later than that then you probably won't ever be able to use that particular feature of the site. However, if you post the links to the videos you have been trying to add in this thread here, and a link to the band's page on PA, then one of our longer serving members will probably be able to do the job for you.
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Hello, I tried uploading some music videos for Scardust, but I go an error ("Microsoft VBScript runtime error 800a00006"). It might be my privacy-oriented browser that's blocking certain scripts, or it could be a site issue. idk which. ![]() Edited by bardberic - January 21 2023 at 21:06 |
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^ Excellent, thanks! Let's hope they accept it!
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^ Thanks, David. Offered new bio (including your latest change) to Eclectic Team.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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^ That looks good to me! I didn't actually write it though
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^ So a kind of a final version for Eclectic Team judgement (marked changes by color font):
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Formed Mannheim, Germany, 1966 (as JOY & THE HIT KIDS). Disbanded 1976. A blues rock outfit called JOY & THE HIT KIDS, which had been playing mostly cover songs since 1966, rebranded itself in 1969 by changing its name to JOY UNLIMITED to reflect their new progressive ideas, and began playing technical, folky prog rock - releasing a debut album in 1970 followed by three heavy concept albums before dissolving in 1976. One of the band's founders was Roland HECK on acoustic and electric pianos and vibraphone. His counterpart was Gerd KÖETHE on flutes and saxophones. It was at Mannheim’s music school where they met the other band members between 1966 and 1970. These were Albin METZ on bass, Dieter KINDL on guitar, Hans HERKENNE on drums, a couple of rotating others and an incredibly talented female blues and soul singer called Joy FLEMING. In their early years the group were in demand all over the Continent, and after their appearance at the Dusseldorf Jazz And Pop Festival in 1968 they were voted as top group of the year for both 1968 and 1969 in a German music poll. Their first album under the new name was confusingly released in 1970 as 'Overground' in Germany, 'Turbulence' in the UK and 'Joy Unlimited' in the United States. It’s a superb blend of psych, funk and pop, boasting the powerhouse vocals of Joy FLEMING, an array of guitar and organ textures and breaks and samples galore, but it was only when they received a commission from the Stadttheater in Bonn to write and produce music for a ballet that the band really took off artistically. Having been initially signed to the Polydor label, when that contract expired the band signed with the newly founded BASF label, and the resulting album, 'Schmetterlinge', was released in 1971 on the legendary Krautrock imprint Pilz - this being a sub-label of BASF. The music is a bold mix of ballet music, progressive sounds, blues & jazz, with the title being the corresponding German word for 'Butterfly'. The album is about the transformation from caterpillar to butterfly in three sections, which is considered to be a symbol of human development. Joy FLEMING, who had been the singer of the band since its inception in 1966, departed after 'Schmetterlinge', and embarked on a solo career. She remained active for many years as a jazz, blues and soul singer, and sang Germany's entry at the 1975 Eurovision Song Contest. Joy FLEMING was replaced by American singer Ken TRAYLOR on the follow-up record 'Reflections', again conceptualised as ballet music. JOY UNLIMITED had received another order for a large full-length ballet composition, this time from the National theater Mannheim. The title 'Reflections' was chosen to summarize the elementary opposites and basic situations of life. The ballet was played live over two seasons in the National theater. Only half of the record had vocals, the rest consisting of Krautrock-y instrumental tracks. Ken TRAYLOR subsequently left the band and moved to the United States for personal reasons. Choreographer and dancer Lothar HÖFGEN, who had already been the initiator and initiator of 'Schmetterlinge' in Bonn, had been hired to head the Mannheim ballet formation at the National theater. He immediately contacted JOY UNLIMITED again, and a third ballet record was released in 1975 based around the diverse faces of love and called 'Minne', with replacement singer Joschi (Josef) DINIER, and this time incorporating influences from folk and renaissance music and the lyrics of medieval German poet Walther von der VOGELWEIDE. Dieter KINDL had wanted to take on other tasks, and by now had also left the band - being succeeded by session musician Hans LINGENFELDER, who had previously worked with the band, on guitar. JOY UNLIMITED played the live performances in the gallery this time rather than directly on the stage, and the ballet ran over two seasons. The record remains one of the most playful and creative documents of that era of European progressive rock, holding up against the best works of KING CRIMSON or GENTLE GIANT. Roland HECK and Gerd KÖTHE then produced an album for Joy Unlimited guitarist Hans LINGENFELDER, who by now had re-invented himself as Ricky KING. Other artists and labels approached them about producing records and to fulfill their producer duties they had to put an end to the band. After the band was dissolved, Roland HECK and Gerd KÖTHE continued to work together as successful producers. Joschi DINIER also became a successful producer, with former drummer Hans HERKENNE working alongside him as a songwriter. Former singer Joy FLEMING (born Erna RAAD) sadly died on 27th September 2017, aged 72. There was another very rare and obscure album featuring the band's music from that era called 'Instrumental Impressions'. This album was released by Italian label Devega in 1974. It contains a series of instrumental, funky library tracks, originally recorded by JOY UNLIMITED in 1972 for public radio station SWR. JOY UNLIMITED was ultimately influenced by the big progressive rock bands of the time. They ventured into different musical realms on every record during their most creative period, combining prog rock guitars, free jazz flutes, renaissance piano and Krautrock ambience into their own unique creative amalgam. --------------- Written by David (yam yam), January 2023 --------------- OK?
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8015 |
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^ Thanks, David, perfect in my opinion.
![]() I'll contact Eclectic Team for their approval. I guess no need for Gordy to re-do good work. Some minor points/questions: 1. "... and an incredibly talented blues and soul singer called Joy FLEMING" - If you don't mind I would add a word: "... and an incredibly talented blues and soul female singer called Joy FLEMING" Yes, it's clear from the text below, but I think it won't hurt. 2. "In their early years the group were in demand all over the Continent ..." - What's correct: "were" or "was"? 3. Is it worth to add info from here: "Joy FLEMING (born Erna RAAD, 15 November 1944 – 27 September 2017)" or only "Joy FLEMING (born Erna RAAD)" (because we don't mention other members' dates)? Edited by NotAProghead - January 21 2023 at 18:36 |
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7413 |
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So, here's my attempt to condense the info from those links I posted here yesterday into an improved biography for Joy Unlimited. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Formed Mannheim, Germany, 1966 (as JOY & THE HIT KIDS). Disbanded 1976. A blues rock outfit called JOY & THE HIT KIDS, which had been playing mostly cover songs since 1966, rebranded itself in 1969 by changing its name to JOY UNLIMITED to reflect their new progressive ideas, and began playing technical, folky prog rock - releasing a debut album in 1970 followed by three heavy concept albums before dissolving in 1976. One of the band's founders was Roland HECK on acoustic and electric pianos and vibraphone. His counterpart was Gerd KÖETHE on flutes and saxophones. It was at Mannheim’s music school where they met the other band members between 1966 and 1970. These were Albin METZ on bass, Dieter KINDL on guitar, Hans HERKENNE on drums, a couple of rotating others and an incredibly talented blues and soul singer called Joy FLEMING. In their early years the group were in demand all over the Continent, and after their appearance at the Dusseldorf Jazz And Pop Festival in 1968 they were voted as top group of the year for both 1968 and 1969 in a German music poll. Their first album under the new name was confusingly released in 1970 as 'Overground' in Germany, 'Turbulence' in the UK and 'Joy Unlimited' in the United States. It’s a superb blend of psych, funk and pop, boasting the powerhouse vocals of Joy FLEMING, an array of guitar and organ textures and breaks and samples galore, but it was only when they received a commission from the Stadttheater in Bonn to write and produce music for a ballet that the band really took off artistically. Having been initially signed to the Polydor label, when that contract expired the band signed with the newly founded BASF label, and the resulting album, 'Schmetterlinge', was released in 1971 on the legendary Krautrock imprint Pilz - this being a sub-label of BASF. The music is a bold mix of ballet music, progressive sounds, blues & jazz, with the title being the corresponding German word for 'Butterfly'. The album is about the transformation from caterpillar to butterfly in three sections, which is considered to be a symbol of human development. Joy FLEMING, who had been the singer of the band since its inception in 1966, departed after Schmetterlinge, and embarked on a solo career. She remained active for many years as a jazz, blues and soul singer, and sang Germany's entry at the 1975 Eurovision Song Contest. Joy FLEMING was replaced by American singer Ken TRAYLOR on the follow-up record 'Reflections', again conceptualised as ballet music. JOY UNLIMITED had received another order for a large full-length ballet composition, this time from the National theater Mannheim. The title 'Reflections' was chosen to summarize the elementary opposites and basic situations of life. The ballet was played live over two seasons in the National theater. Only half of the record had vocals, the rest consisting of Krautrock-y instrumental tracks. Ken TRAYLOR subsequently left the band and moved to the United States for personal reasons. Choreographer and dancer Lothar HÖFGEN, who had already been the initiator and initiator of 'Schmetterlinge' in Bonn, had been hired to head the Mannheim ballet formation at the National theater. He immediately contacted JOY UNLIMITED again, and a third ballet record was released in 1975 based around the diverse faces of love and called 'Minne', with replacement singer Joschi (Josef) DINIER, and this time incorporating influences from folk and renaissance music and the lyrics of medieval German poet Walther von der VOGELWEIDE. Dieter KINDL had wanted to take on other tasks, and by now had also left the band - being succeeded by session musician Hans LINGENFELDER, who had previously worked with the band, on guitar. JOY UNLIMITED played the live performances in the gallery this time rather than directly on the stage, and the ballet ran over two seasons. The record remains one of the most playful and creative documents of that era of European progressive rock, holding up against the best work of KING CRIMSON or GENTLE GIANT. Roland HECK and Gerd KÖTHE then produced an album for Joy Unlimited guitarist Hans LINGENFELDER, who by now had re-invented himself as Ricky KING. Other artists and labels approached them about producing records and to fulfill their producer duties they had to put an end to the band. After the band was dissolved, Roland HECK and Gerd KÖTHE continued to work together as successful producers. Joschi DINIER also became a successful producer, with former drummer Hans HERKENNE working alongside him as a songwriter. There was another very rare and obscure album featuring the band's music from that era called 'Instrumental Impressions'. This album was released by Italian label Devega in 1974. It contains a series of instrumental, funky library tracks, originally recorded by JOY UNLIMITED in 1972 for public radio station SWR. JOY UNLIMITED was ultimately influenced by the big progressive rock bands of the time. They ventured into different musical realms on every record during their most creative period, combining prog rock guitars, free jazz flutes, renaissance piano and Krautrock ambience into their own unique creative amalgam. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feel free to edit it as you feel fit, though it might be better for Gordy of the Eclectic team to compose the new biography, since he is very accomplished at the task, and any new biography would have to be approved by that team anyway before it could be substituted for the existing one on the band's page here.
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^^ Thanks, but I think it would be better to add both CD+DVD editions as Boxsets/Compilations because otherwise the main feature of these releases - multichannel and other mixes - isn't clear. As well as additional DVD contents.
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Updated track listing, line-up, and releases information for "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" by King Crimson.
1. Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Part One (13:36) 2. Book of Saturday (2:59) 3. Exiles (7:37) 4. Easy Money (7:51) 5. The Talking Drum (7:28) 6. Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Part Two (7:10) Bonus Tracks from 40th Anniversary Series (2012) : 7. Larks' Tongues in Aspic (Part I) (Alternative Mix) (11:14) 8. Book Of Saturday (Alternative Take) (2:56) 9. The Talking Drum (Alternative Mix) (6:58) Line-up: - Robert Fripp / acoustic guitar, electric guitar, Mellotron, Hohner pianet, electronic devices - David Cross / violin, viola, Mellotron, electric piano, flute (3) - John Wetton / bass, piano (3), vocals - Bill Bruford / drums, percussion, timbales, cowbell, wood block - Jamie Muir / percussion, drums, (assorted assorted found items and sundry instruments) Releases information: CD/DVD Discipline Global Mobile - KCSP5, Panegyric - KCSP5 (UK & Europe, 2012) Richard Palmer-James: lyrics Nick Ryan: engineering Tantra Designs: cover design Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1909 Discogs (1) - https://www.discogs.com/release/3989194-King-Crimson-Larks-Tongues-In-Aspic Discogs (2) - https://www.discogs.com/master/444-King-Crimson-Larks-Tongues-In-Aspic
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Updated track listing, line-up, and releases information for "Islands" by King Crimson.
1. Formentera Lady (9:55) 2. Sailor's Tale (7:20) 3. The Letters (4:25) 4. Ladies of the Road (5:29) 5. Prelude: Song of the Gulls (4:14) 6. Islands (9:14) Bonus Tracks from 40th Anniversary Series (2010) : 7. Islands (Studio Run Through with Oboe Prominent) (2:02) 8. Formentera Lady (Take 2) (2:23) 9. Sailor's Tale (Alternate Mix / Edit) (3:37) 10. A Peacemaking Stint Unrolls (Previously Unreleased) (3:55) 11. The Letters (Rehearsal / Outtake) (2:43) 12. Ladies of the Road (Robert Fripp & David Singleton Remix) (5:43) Line-up: - Robert Fripp / guitar, Mellotron, pedal harmonium (6), effects - Mel Collins / flute, bass flute (6), saxophones, backing vocals - Raymond "Boz" Burrell / bass, lead vocals - Ian Wallace / drums, percussion, backing vocals - Peter Sinfield / lyrics, cover design, painting With: - Paulina Lucas / soprano vocals (1) - Keith Tippet / piano - Robin Miller / oboe - Mark Charig / cornet - Harry Miller / double bass (1,6) - Wilf Gibson / violin (1), string orchestra leader (5,6) Releases information: CD/DVD Discipline Global Mobile - KCSP4, Panegyric - KCSP4 (2010, UK & Europe) Andy Hendrikson: recording, engineering Tony Arnold: mastering Vick & Mike: equipment Robert Ellis: photography Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1906 Discogs (1) - https://www.discogs.com/release/2490596-King-Crimson-Islands Discogs (2) - https://www.discogs.com/master/436-King-Crimson-Islands
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You're right: after 2 years, it would be time for an update about this. Let me gather and analyse the data. I will be back soon with new numbers!
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Thanks, David, done.
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