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    Posted: September 08 2022 at 02:59
I am sure many of you remember the pre-internet days when you eagerly awaited the latest album from your favourite bands.  Then, one day, you stopped buying 'on release'.  Something happened, something put you off.  Starting with the so-called 'big six', what was the last album by them that you bought on release??

ELP - Works Vol. 1*
Genesis - Duke
Jethro Tull - Rock Island
King Crimson - Beat
Pink Floyd - Momentary Lapse
Yes - Union**

*but I did get ELPowell when it came out!
**but I didn't get 'Big Generator'

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2022 at 03:21
^^ Great idea for a thread Rick, but I think you might get similar answers from many! Also, I think you have to be of a certain erm 'vintage' to refer to 'on release' since my comments will be retrospective, but I'll give it a go.

Genesis: Duke.. Abacab is too much
Yes: Drama  90125 isn't Yes, but then I oddly loved Talk and Magnification isn't bad either
Camel: Rain Dances.. Breathless is too much of a divergence, but Rajaz was very good
Pink Floyd: The Wall, although Division Bell is pretty good
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery, and that was a stretch for me
BJH: XII.. a notable change after Wooly left
Hawkwind: Simply too complicated to answer... the subject of a doctorial thesis..
Moody Blues: Obviously Seventh Sojourn... everything after (more or less) is total pap..
Mike Oldfield: Very hit and miss after Incantations, still exploring much of it
Kansas: The first Five and that's it to be honest
Rush: They didn't lose me until Vapour Trails, which along with Snakes, I never could get into
Eloy: Oddly, I know the answer should be Performance, but there isn't an album I don't enjoy, even the much derided Ra. Go figure.

I hope that's been helpful, thanks for the question...


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2022 at 03:41
Thanks Jared - just to clear up on a couple of those from my perspective:

Camel - Nude
Hawkwind - Chronicle of the Black Sword
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ELP - In The Hot Seat
Yes - Magnification
King Crimson - The Power To Believe
Jethro Tull - Crest Of A Knave
Genesis - Invisible Touch
Pink Floyd - Pulse
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The most recent CD album I own by each of the "Big Six":-

ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
Genesis - Calling All Stations
Jethro Tull - The Broadsword and the Beast
King  Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Pink Floyd - The Division Bell
YES - Big Generator
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ELP: BSS (bought ELPowell)
Genesis: ATTW3
Crimson: Discipline, though I have a few after that
Tull: Stormwatch (got RTB... and Crest after a couple of decades after release)
Floyd: never stopped buying (though I wish I hadn't AMLOR)
Yes: Tormato/Drama (and the two KTA afterwards)
Tangerine Dream: Force Majeure (Green desert is the only one since)
Caravan: Blind Dog
Rush: Pictures
Camel: Moonmadness

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2022 at 07:02
The most recent CD albums I own by each of the second "Big Six", although I realise it's still a contentious issue as to who the second "Big Six" really are, when it's more a matter of personal choice than an established fact. Wink

Barclay James Harvest - XII
Camel - Harbour of Tears
Caravan - Cunning Stunts
The Moody Blues - December
Renaissance - The Other Woman
Rush - Counterparts
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Edited by David_D - September 08 2022 at 07:29
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I've never stopped buying their albums, I just know which ones to stay away from. Tongue
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Hi,

Let's see ...

ELP - bought Karn Evil ... that was that for me!
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail
Jethro Tull - Minstrel in the Gallery (it was all pop songs after that!)
King Crimson - when BB left
Pink Floyd - Momentary Lapse of Repetition
Yes - Relayer as the band was just a repeat after that

But mostly, for me, it was that the bands had lost their way ... I bought PF and even today, the material I enjoy the most is the earlier stuff, even going back to Syd, and though I bought Roger's stuff, it simply was not as uplifting and fun stuff. Also, sad that Nick Mason had no more fictitious adventures to his solo career as that one was magnificent fun!

YES was sad ... a bit before Chris passed away I caught them here at the Indian Casino in Oregon, and it was the saddest thing I have ever seen, and even all the women dressed up in late 60's fake costumes and make-up just made the whole thing gaudy and a bad Fellini movie, not to mention a singer that did not know what the lyrics meant and was using stock hand expressions that are thousands of years old ... it was, literally, pathetic, not to mention that many folks in the audience only wanted to hear CTTE and Roundabout. Totally pathetic, as if the band was just another top ten idiocy.

JT, I have never bothered to see, especially after he "quit" on PP and while I liked MIAG, it did not feel complete, and I think that he did not like the fact that those last 2 albums did not sell gazillions, and right after that he was all over FM radio with pop songs ... nothing but!

ELP I liked and would have bought more but after hearing the fiasco and the audiences laughing (one bootleg even had them booing the orchestra), I did not want to hurt the feeling I had for everything to KE9. 

Genesis, I would not bother to see after PG left.

But some, never die ... Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze were good to the last drop! And that is something that these "top goons" did not accomplish even though they are considered by folks that don't listen to anything else the top five ... only one of them is in my top 5. The other 4 are respected by me, but there is better music out there in the world that we refuse to accept as a better top 5 group that at least 2 or 3 of those. I would never select JT before Banco del Muttuo Soccorso, for example. 

KC is another discussion, and while the appreciation is there and I saw them some 3 or 4 years ago with the 3 drummers, the musicianship is the best I have ever seen on any band, although I have not bought anything since BB left, except one of the live albums of the recent shows.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2022 at 08:19
ELP - I bought Black Moon but hadn't bought Works I or II before that.
Genesis - After W&W the only one I've bought was We Can't Dance mainly because of Driving the Last Spike
Jethro Tull - Have never really been big buyer of JT
King Crimson - or KC
Pink Floyd - or PF
Yes - I bought H&E and didn't like it. The Quest was worse but I'd never write them off completely, I'd just have to give any future albums a good listen before buying.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've never stopped buying their albums, I just know which ones to stay away from. Tongue

I'm going to subscribe that point of view. Always a second chance for strayed prog veterans. There are misses, however, that make such filosophy a bit hard to maintain: Invisible Touch, for example, and a long list of usual suspects.

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Genesis - Lamb
ELP - BSS
JT - Heavy Horses
Yes - GFTO
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Last time I bought each band’s new release when it was released (I may or may not have gotten later albums eventually, and even enjoyed them, but it was no longer a “must buy”) :

Camel - Dust & Dreams
Pink Floyd - Momentary Lapse
King Crimson - ConstruKction of Light
Genesis - none! (never stopped)
Yes - 90125
Jethro Tull - Rock Island
Moody Blues- The Present
Rush - Grace Under Pressure

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2022 at 11:59
Interesting...

ELP - In The Hot Seat (or live: Live at the Royal Albert Hall)
Jethro Tull - Never a fan, only have TaaB and Crest (was too cheap not to buy it...)
Genesis - s/t with some gaps before that (don't have their first, don't have Duke and there must be another one that I don't have)
Pink Floyd - The Endless River (if that counts)
King Crimson - Never stopped buying their studio albums; just have a few live albums (last one: Radical Action)
Yes - Made the mistake to buy Heaven & Earth, but gave that one away since I knew I would never listen to it again. It will remain the last on I bought.
Camel - Dust and Dreams (with some gaps before that one)
Rush - Grace Under Pressure

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Fly From Here by Yes. I didn't buy Heaven & Earth. I did however, for some reason, buy The Quest when it first came out. 
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Phew, complicated.. lots of bands ive followed through their career but..

Genesis: Duke was the last 'Studio' lp i bought (ive bought Archives etc since)
BJH: XII definately turned off after Woolly's departure
Camel: Pressure points
Hawkwind: hmm... The last Studio lp was 'The Machine Stops'.. Its complicated..
Pink floyd: The Wall ( though all the post waters studio/ live lps have ended up in my collection- gifts from well meaning individuals....
ELP: only ever had the first 5 lps but saw them on the Black Moon tour and briefly had the album on cassette but my car ate it...
Yes: Big Generator (which i really like)
Mike Oldfield: Discovery (saw him on tour then and bought the lp but didnt like it much)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2022 at 13:23
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

BJH: XII definately turned off after Woolly's departure

ha! I said exactly the same! There was a perceptible move toward commercialism afterwards, wasn't there?
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Fly From Here by Yes. I didn't buy Heaven & Earth. I did however, for some reason, buy The Quest when it first came out. 

I've still never heard any of these, having stopped at Magnification, years ago... seriously, are any of them worth it? I can tell you that none of them are cheap!
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ELP - Works Vol. 1
Genesis - Duke
Yes - 90125


JT, KC, and PF I have everything they made (studio album wise) (and will probably buy more if they make more). 
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