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nick_h_nz
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^ and ^^ and, actually, quite a few previous posts.
Modern Danish prog is definitely quite popular, but not particularly so in PA. I think that is because, to use a gross generalisation, PA forum members tend to either enjoy prog of a symphonic and/or neo nature, or of an avant-garde and experimental nature. This goes quite some way, in my mind, to demystify why modern prog bands from Norway and Sweden tend to be more well known and more well liked on PA than modern prog bands from Denmark. You need only to look through the RYM and PA charts (without adding extra parameters, as David has) to see that modern Danish prog tends to be either progressive pop and indie, or progressive metal - or (if you take a band like VOLA), a mix of both. This makes these bands actually more mainstream friendly than most Swedish and Norwegian modern prog bands, and some have even seen some mainstream chart action. I'm not at all surprised that someone like David does not enjoy modern Danish prog, and I am absolutely fine with that. My only issue with David was his denying that something was prog, simply because he didn't like it. Thankfully, from his most recent posts (both here in, and in the Swedish thread elsewhere on the forum), he seems to have come around to the fact that he simply doesn't enjoy it. I do like Efterklang, but have never heard of Under Byen, so will have to investigate this "other good Danish band". It is interesting, actually, how many international bands have Danish members. If I counted such bands, I would definitely have a larger list of Danish bands than I do - but, as per my OP, while I am more than happy for people to mention such bands, I don't really count them as Danish, even if they are based in Denmark. |
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David_D
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I don't know so much Under Byen, but they certainly have my respect. I don't consider them to be Prog, though. |
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nick_h_nz
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If you don't know so much Under Byen, perhaps you're not really qualified to say whether or not they are prog? Certainly they are listed on PA, which would say that someone thought they were prog to suggest them for PA, and the RIO/Avant team thought they were prog, to add them to PA. It's nice that they certainly have your respect, but if you respect a band, would you not also respect how they consider themselves? From their Bandcamp page, it would appear that Under Byen consider themselves a prog band. I think we get it, by now. There is little outside '70s prog that you consider prog - unless, of course, it sounds like '70s prog.
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earlyprog
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^"...that someone thought they were prog to suggest them for PA".
That was me http://www.progarchives.com/forum/search_results_posts.asp?SearchID=20220901031647&KW=under+byen
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David_D
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That's pure bullsh*t, my friend, and you know it, so how is it possible to take you seriously? |
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David_D
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Not much good dialogue HERE, off we go.
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earlyprog
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He's more funny when he is not deliberately trying to be.
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nick_h_nz
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Quite clearly I don’t know it, or I wouldn’t say it. Maybe it’s not true, but I can only go by what I’ve seen. Admittedly I’ve likely not seen every post you’ve made about albums, bands and/or artists you like. So feel free to correct me by giving examples I have missed - as so far, I’ve seen only ‘70s prog or modern music that sounds like ‘70s prog, I am actually very happy to be corrected! |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Another Danish band who I haven't seen mentioned here yet is Blast Furnace. Their one and only self-titled album from 1971 is a real blast!
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David_D
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To finish this, and if somebody should be in doubt, to be familiar with my points of view read my own posts and certainly not Nick's.
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David_D
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I wrote: "You would maybe like to be mentioned in "Imaginative album and song titles"? http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129532&PN=1 " EarlyBullsh*t
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Logan
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I can't quote you, David woithout getting lots of code, but...
I wrote: "You would maybe like to be mentioned in "Imaginative album and song titles"? Ermm http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129532&PN=1 EarlyBullsh*t This behaviour is not okay. On August 25, you asked Early Prog if "You would maybe like to be mentioned in "Imaginative album and song titles"? To which he responded, understandably, "Are you referring to me? If so, explain what you mean by this." But you didn't bother to explain. Why would you have even asked or expected him to know of this Just for Fun topic? Then yesterday, again in this thread you wrote, quoting yourself from before "I wrote "You would maybe like to be mentioned in "Imaginative album and song titles"?" And you wrote in your one man just for fun topic yesterday, where you were clearing trying to insult: HERE And now today "I wrote: "You would maybe like to be mentioned in "Imaginative album and song titles"? Ermm http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=129532&PN=1 " EarlyBullsh*t" This obsessive insulting and baiting behaviour has got to stop. It is clear your bear grudges and you won't let them go. You often refer to these cryptically and confusingly like it's some kind of game, which comes across as very petty and mean-spirited, to those not in the know across time and topics. This is a formal warning. Do not make personal attacks, you can attack the argument not the person, and please try harder to make your posts relevant to the topics. And word of advice, learn to let it go. This kind of obsessive behaviour does no one favours. if you feel that you have been wronged, then PM a moderator. Such name-calling is not okay. Here are the official rules:
Stop this kind of behaviour now or you will be suspended when next it is spotted. Oh, and by the way, quoting yourself repeatedly is also not usually considered good forum etiquette and in you case does not generally seem to work better to explain or expand on your arguments. In this case where you wouldn't even clarify when asked, and then you strung it along for week to make an insult (like a punchline?) is really beyond the pail and such behaviour is not new from you and will not be tolerated. Edited by Logan - September 02 2022 at 07:21 |
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David_D
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All I can say here, Greg, is that it's a part of a veery long story, where I surely haven't been the aggressive and worse part, and I hope, we can have a reasonnable dialogue about it, where you all try to understand things from my, and maybe other members, points of view and wishes.
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David_D
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I wrote: "All I can say here, Greg, is that it's a part of a veery long story, where I surely haven't been the aggressive and worse part, and I hope, we can have a reasonnable dialogue about it, where you all try to understand things from my, and maybe other members, points of view and wishes. " I'd like to add, Greg, that I hoped, the thread "Imaginative album and song titles" could be a help for such "reasonnable dialogue". |
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earlyprog
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My short account on the development of Danish progressive rock:
There has been a flourishing of Danish progressive rock in the recent decade not seen since the late 60’s and early 70’s with bands like Alrune Rod, Burnin Red Ivanhoe, Ache, Blue Sun, Midnight Sun, Culpeper’s Orchard and Secret Oyster. Despite this flourishing, it generally stays under the radar in Denmark while many bands (well relatively many considering the size of Denmark) enjoys international attention such as Vola, Mew, Efterklang and Royal Hunt to mention some of the bands that have revitalized the Danish prog scene. In the late 60’s and early 70’s Denmark’s prog scene was relatively large before it practically became extinct in the late 70’s before it was resurrected in the late 90’s where progressive metal made it’s appearance in the Danish music scene - first, Royal Hunt, then Manticora, Wuthering Heights and others. In the mid-0’s psychedelic/space rock experienced a renaissance in Denmark with bands like Causa Sui, Dragontears and Papir. Simultaneously, Danish post rock bands occurred such as Efterklang and Lis Er Stille. The mid-10’s saw a wave of various progressive metal genres (Exp/Post M, Tech/Extr) which provided Town Portal, Cold Night For Alligators, Expatriated and Iotunn, resulting in a peak in 2018, counted by the number of Danish prog releases (see the chart posted above). |
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earlyprog
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Guilty, that PA addition was pushed by me as well. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=120385&KW=blast+furnace
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earlyprog
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SAVAGE ROSE
Hadn't noticed their addition despite having a finger in the pie and promised to write the bio but apparently Tamijo did instead. Not prog but Prog Related. Hence plenty of prog here and there but not a full album of prog. Wouldn't mind to have seen them added to Proto-Prog, though. I am currently adding the remainder of their discography. Edited by earlyprog - September 19 2022 at 13:53 |
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mellotronwave
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I enjoy Causa Sui and its 'projects' a lot
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earlyprog
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Then perhaps you know London Odense Ensemble. Great stuff. |
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