Abortion

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 Sean Trane wrote:

 SteveG wrote:

It's amazing to me that abortion is still a thing in the 21st century. Birth control, which is not on the chopping block, should have made abortions a thing of the past. I'm not saying this for victims of rape or in cases of abortions for medically necessary means, but somehow we've dropped the ball on women getting pregnant when they don't want to. In most instances, there is no excuse for it. Planned Parenthood and other social programs supply the pill or other means at virtually no cost. Wtf?

 siLLy puPPy wrote:

 SteveG wrote:

 siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ women can still get pregnant on the pill. There is no birth control that is 100% effective.
 That's obvious, but the main problem is lower income women going without. A lot of them. We need to do better in that regard.

You said birth control should've made abortion a thing of the past so if it's obvious you wouldn't have made that comment. 

Whatever the case i don't really get involved in this topic often because it's basically the blind leading the blind.

Firstly, in the modern world self-induced morning after contraception is easily obtained through natural herbal remedies.

Puppy, never mind what Steve says (one thing and its exact opposite in the next post)

This thread is mostly males discussing an issue that should concern women only (or mostly).

It's amazing to see that an   unknowing male  would imagine women prefer using abortion to other methods. This is outrageous and preposterous: like not knowing women at all and the trauma of having surgical tools toying inside their uterus.

Sure, the pill - once presented as the miracle solution - has been decried in the last 15 years because of increased health risk (including strokes)  was (and still is) the most efficient solution. So have vaccines of all sorts (this is why we're seeing some illnesses reappearing four/five decades after we thought they'd been eradicated.. That came with the birth of social networks crap. 

I bet you that 80 or 90% of the women looking to abort are upper-class students/professional in order of not interrupting (or ending) their career, rather than lower class.

Steve's stance is pro-conservative...
 I concede that pills are 95% effective,  (A damn good effective rate for any drug, btw.) But that's not focusing on the larger problem. Look up statistics as to what economic group is most vulnerable. You might learn something. And I would make quite an odd conservative hawking contraception.  But you wouldn't understand that, would you?

Edited by SteveG - May 04 2022 at 15:27