Rearrange PA top 20 to your personal tastes

siLLy puPPy wrote: jamesbaldwin wrote: Rate your music is that site that has in its chart of the best albums ever, 2 Radiohead albums and 2 Pink Floyd albums (2 + 2 = 4) in the first 7 places (4 on 7). And that has, in its top 20 albums, 2 albums of Kendrick Lamar, one Madvillain album and another Radiohead album (and that's three). And I stop here. My rating, from 1 to 10, of the Rate Your Music ranking (and therefore of its ratings in general) is ZERO. You sound like a cranky old man. You write reviews here about music you just don't get. So what if other people like other things? I love RYM a lot. I have discovered infinite amounts of new music on that site. Sure the charts don't reflect my tastes either but who cares really.

I'd be interested in a collaborators ranking, sounds fun.

I suspect many others share my sentiment and prefer the more complex sounds of bands that really went for the prog jugular.

^^^ I honestly don't know how popular The Eagles are now amongst modern audiences generally, with a wide variety of ages, and across different music genre fans around the world as I never liked the band and haven't delved into such things.  I do know that it has been very popular and has sold a lot and I expect it could sell out a large or very large venue in various regions.  I  don't know how relevant to the average person the Eagles is considered now-- don't know if it they are even still making albums.  The only Eagles song I even can think of is "Hotel California".  Would you say that it's as big as BTS right now?  BTS doesn't do well either at RYM despite the huge popularity.

Edited by Logan - October 18 2021 at 21:17

^ I made the dated comment too before methinks, but I like some music that has dated (of its era, has nostalgia value and sentimental qualities even if I was not alive at the time).  ELP has not dated well for me. I agree that others seem more timeless.  I love the dated feel of kinds of loungey music and exotica/tropica and those retro sounds are being used by modern bands, often by ones into neo-psychedelia and art pop and jazzy music, in I think lovely and interesting ways.  ELP is kitschy I feel, and I like plenty of kitschy things, but it feels tacky to me too often and kind of yobish. I can't easily relate to ELP's music, and I don't think that its general audience would suit me or my personality.  I would not expect modern audiences generally to appreciate ELP much no matter how popular it has been.  I  don't know how many new fans it is generating or how much it is still influencing popular music.  It doesn't have the cool cachet of a lot of vintage stuff that has been re-visited in music. It didn't age as well as other things that do feel of their time, one might say.

Edited by Logan - October 18 2021 at 22:11

^  Maybe I should try again.  I do like the debut and various other ELP music (hardly a hater -- I was very into Trilogy at one time).  A big yes on your opinion regarding people caring so much about what the charts reflect, and too often it seems that people don't understand what it reflects or is intended to reflect.  It's a rather silly rabbit hole I have often gone down in discussion -- spend too much time arguing about things I don't care about sometimes.   I respect ELP more than I appreciate it and still think of it as the quintessential Prog act -- warts and all. ;) They made some lovely and fun music.

this has become an ELP thread 

Lewian wrote: @Lorenzo: I agree with most of your concerns about "popularity rankings", be they on rateyourmusic or here. However I'm wary of an assumption that seems to be underlying your arguments, which is that objectivity in rankings is possible, at least to the extent that somehow rankings could be assessed as better ("more serious") or worse in any objective manner. I don't buy that. I think that with rateyourmusic we get problems, with "good experts only" we get other problems. It's all more of a game really, which of course has some use and some justification, but we'd be well advised to not take it too seriously..

Edited by jamesbaldwin - October 19 2021 at 05:46

Logan wrote: Cristi wrote: this has become an ELP thread  kinda off topic already, there are other bands and albums...  We've been discussing a variety of issues.  One might think of ELP as having become a sort of nexus when it comes to issues around ratings and rankings.  There are indeed other bands and albums, there are also other threads if people aren't appreciating the discussion here. And people can still post their rearrangement of the top 20 if they like (I already did a bit of what little of the top 20 I tend to play, which is really only Pawn Hearts over the last decade).  I like it often when conversation doesn't just try to stick narrowly to one topic but twists, digresses, changes and evolves as seems natural to me when people get together socially. Some people seem very keep-on-topic as a principal, even when it comes to fizzling out topics by other people where the OP hasn't expressed concern, and even when the OP has switched gears due to conversation in the thread I've seen complaints about moving off-topic. I have enjoyed taking part in the discussion with people here very much, much more than I would arranging and re-arranging that list.  My two cents.

^ thanks for the list. Been ages since I visited Gnosis. That list definitely is much more interesting to me than PA's and RYM's. So much on it that I value very highly. I wonder how ELP fares?

My favourite Prog reviews site was Ground & Sky.