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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21290 |
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Hard for me to think of too many, it's more a case of reaching a level of consistency and then maintaining it over an extended period. These may qualify
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 37110 |
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As an artist, the closest I can think of with a sizable career is David Bowie. I like the debut, but it is commonly low rated (maybe not the lowest studio, that might be Never Let Me Down, which I haven't heard), and sure some 70s albums might commonly be considered better than Blackstar, but for me Blackstar is an awesome album, and the one of his that I have been most obsessed with of his since it came out. And yes, this topic is in the Prog section, but to me David Bowie is a kind Crossover Art Rock Prog for plenty of material to make his considerable for a Progressive Music lounge forum.
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24621 |
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Anekdoten.
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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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That's a tough question. I think almost all musicians or composers have had ups and downs. Very often, musicians become increasingly mature over a period of time, and then they top, after which their output is of mixed quality. If we allow the world of classical music into this discussion, I would mention Mozart as a composer whose work simply became better and better. Just hold his earliest child compositions up against Die Zauberflöte...
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15139 |
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Bowie is a great pick when it comes to "first album worst, last album best". Some of his albums I don't know and he had some ups and downs in between, but I agree with Blackstar being phantastic and his best, and the first hardly resonates with me. I'd never have thought of Mozart, but I tend to agree. Anekdoten, Henry Cow are rather overall consistent for me, but surely not bands who ended on a low (if they ended at all). I don't know (or not more than one album) of some others listed but I have some respect for bands who are characterised in this way, so maybe I check their last albums to see whether they are for me.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29358 |
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they have even ratings over the 6 studio albums although the last is certainly the highest rated on PA and also has 300ish more ratings than most of the others so that has a strong case for being the best , however there are no clear worst ones. A lot of the big Swedish prog acts of the 90's onwards were very strong at the outset. They seemed to have their identity well set and managed to avoid a 'finding themselves' early period that many prog bands require.
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Boredoms for sure. They started out as pretty awful (to my ears) noise rock in
the mid-eighties but piqued my interest with their ninth album, the great Super æ (1998), then followed up with the even more awesome Vision Creation Newsun (1999) and finally there's Seadrum/ House of Sun (2004) - their near perfect swan song. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15139 |
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^That's interesting. A Japanese friend gave me some of their earlier
stuff and I didn't like most of it. It did include Super ae, which was
clearly better than the others, but didn't make me explore their later
work. Half way through the one you linked now, it's cool!
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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I believe Vanden Plas have gotten better and better beginning with their album Christ 0. Most might not agree, but I like their stuff after that album better.
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24621 |
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I fully agree that Anekdoten don't have any clear worst albums: all are 4* and up in my book. But there is an ascending line (imho of course) in Gravity - A Time of Day - Until All the Ghosts Are Gone. |
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7411 |
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Dutch band Focus seemed to get better with time, but I don't know their catalog very well.
I thought this recent reprise from "Moving Waves" is very moving and powerful! |
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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I'd argue GORGUTS, and I know 9/10 of PA hasn't heard a single track lol.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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I don't listen to much death metal, but Gorguts debut is great.
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iluvmarillion ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3247 |
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I'll have to go IQ here. Tales from the Lush Attic is a pretty good album but their last three over thirty years after their debut album are so much better than the debut one.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29358 |
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although for 1983 it was actually amazing but now is very dated. The last album could well be their best in all round aspects (performance, production and great songs). Good shout!
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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Bowie was the first person to spring to my mind when I read the OP. I own every one of his albums, and while his discography is not a straightforward upward pattern, the debut is easily his least impressive album, and Blackstar easily his most impressive. Blackstar is not just an impressive final album for Bowie, but one of the most impressive final albums of any artist, ever. (And, regardless of how Bowie is labelled in PA, his music is prog to me.) |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29358 |
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Yep Blackstar would be a fantastic album coming from anyone , but made more so coming from someone terminally ill. Amazing man and possibly the greatest loss to music in decades.
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IQ have been remarkably consistent from the beginning, with not a bad album anywhere, but for me Resistance is still a disappointment and bucks their trend....
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Simon Says. Ok, they only had 3 albums, but each one was miles better than the previous.
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