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Un Amico 
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They are ok albums for the period. Fripp took sone guitar lessons from Robin Trower, stole his song 'Bluebird' and made it the template for all future KC ballads. I was not impressed with that as I worship Bob Fripp. Oh well.
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Dellinger
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Though I do like many songs from this era, I do like the 70's albums more. Also, I don't actually have any of their 80's studio albums, but I do have a pair of live albums from this era, including all the songs from Discipline within the first of them... but still, for what I have heard, the best versions of the best songs from this 80's albums are the ones played in the 90's by the double trio line-up, so, say, with Vroom Vroom I have just about everything I could want from the 80's songs, as well as from the Thrack album (well, between Vroom Vroom and The Collectable King Crimson vol 3).
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Awesoreno
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Posted: April 30 2021 at 21:20 |
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Posted: April 30 2021 at 10:58 |
Ouch. I think there's only one or two somewhat weak tracks on Beat. TOOAPP doesn't have any imo except for maybe nuages(I never really cared for that one much).
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Artik
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For me they were like the only prog "old guard" who came victorius of the 80s trial. Yes and Genesis (and many more) chose disgusting pop as a means of preservation, but KC showed that you don't have to sell out to remain valid and there is always a good time to be creative. Their colours trilogy was and remains a strong statement. Love them for this.
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dr wu23
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Posted: April 30 2021 at 09:15 |
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Also not my favorite KC period (not a fan of Belew's voice)...but Discipline is a good one; Beat and Three Of A Perfect Pair could have been combined with the best tracks to make a single lp.
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Posted: April 30 2021 at 09:10 |
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I enjoy all three albums from this era, with Discipline being my favorite.
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Beat was the second King Crimson album I got after In the Court of the Crimson King. I got Beat shortly after it was released because I heard "Heartbeat" on the radio, which I liked in spite of its somewhat '80s pop sound. Two tracks that definitely stand out for me are "Neurotica" and "Sartori in Tangier".
Discipline is a fairly recent addition to my collection. I haven't listened to it much, so I can't say too much about it, though I do like "Elephant Talk", which has a very Talking Heads sound to me. |
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Wonderful stuff, Discipline is one of their best albums overall, really interesting stuff & Belew was an excellent add to the band. I find the other 2 a bit weaker.
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I think 80's KC is pretty darn extraordinary - my favorite period of the band. The interlocking guitar madness is so delicious. Dig Me, Neurotica, Sartori in Tangier, Sleepless, Discipline, Indiscipline, Threee of a Perfect Pair, THE SHELTERING SKY, just so many amazing moments. When i first encountered this music it was so radically different from anything i had heard that I was confused - i remember asking the older brother of a friend of mine who played it for us, what kind of music is this? He said I don't know. I still feel that way about these songs - but i love them. I fairly quickly collected the catalogue, and started seeing them live during the double trio era, but these albums (and the Absent Lovers live album) are the pinnacle. Not knocking other eras - SABB, LTIA, Red are my second favorite set (LTIA and Red are like messages from a parallel reality), but there is a lot more 'filler' in the Court-Lizard era and Double Duo onwards era in my humble and perhaps erroneous opinion
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King Crimson has had many faces during their career, and they are all quite excellent, if you listen carefully and pay attention to the complexity of their compositions.
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my favorite track from these three albums is "Neurotica", followed by "Indiscipline"
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my least favorite KC period, I rarely listen to these three albums.
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I'm a big fan of that period. This was at the time when I properly got into music. I loved prog as far as I knew it but also quite a bit of new wave/post punk. I only had and knew Court of the Crimson King when I saw them live in 1982, and the totally blew me away. One of these moments when I heard music that was not only good but done in a way that I couldn't have imagined to be possible. The perfect synthesis of the sophistication of prog and the leaner new wave approach, with super original compositions, and top notch musicians. So much sharper than Court and the old stuff (which of course has its own qualities). I list Discipline among the best five albums of all time up to these days and would still give five stars to all three. Even the more straight and commercial stuff (Heartbeat, Sleepless) appeals to me. However recently I would list the instrumentals among my top favourites: The Sheltering Sky, Sartori in Tangier, Industry. Rarely mentioned but true monster tracks and less "KC by numbers" than some of the LTIA re-iterations (not that I don't like them).
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Posted: April 30 2021 at 04:38 |
The only one I still retain nowadays (the 40th anniv). I
find Beat fairly weak (it's a bit of a replay of Discipline with much
lesser compositions and no surprise) and I actually prefer Perfect Pair
to it. Yessssss, Belew certainly added that
Talking Heads edge to Crimson (he never recorded with TTH, but toured
with them in the extended line-up that finally gave the Stop making
Sense movie), but I still shuned them (Crimson) live back then - not
that I actually saw TTH either - other than through the Jonathan Demme
movie. The only thing Beat has really going for itself compared to the other two is that they theme up of Beat Poets (Sartori, Heartbeat, Neal Jack & Me, etc...) please note the colours +/- match the early albums (not sure it was meant that way, but it is coincidental) Red majority for Discipline & Court Blue for Beat and Poseidon Yellow for Pair and Lizard. TBH,
all I need from that line-up would be the Absent Lover live album
(check) or the Neal, Jack & Me DVD (still looking) from that line-up
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I don't like them but respect that the band was trying a different direction.
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Probably my least favourite era of the band, but good albums nonetheless.
I don't think I have an overall favourite album from this era. There's some good tracks on each album. Frame by Frame Matte Kudasai Neal & Jack and me Sartori in Tangier Heartbeat Three of a perfect pair. There are probably new wave bands, who clearly influenced Fripp at this time, some of who I prefer to KC in the 80's, notably XTC. Edited by Blacksword - April 30 2021 at 05:48 |
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Posted: April 30 2021 at 00:41 |
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They are awesome listens when under stress
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Posted: April 29 2021 at 23:23 |
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I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat...
Belew rules. I love 80's KC. Discipline is the best of the three (of a perfect pair).
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