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Poll Question: Which is your favorite album?
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Talk Talk > Ozrics > Mr Bungle > Miriodor
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Lots of good selections here however MR BUNGLE was and still is one of the most creative and mind-blowing musical forces in all of music history so ride the Carosoul and Squeeze Your Macaroni, it's Bungle time.

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Many great albums!!

Voted Talk Talk, but i really loved these albums

Sieges Even: "A sense of Change" shows the evolution of this great band, great vocals by Jogi Kaiser, their debut and sophomore albums are tech thrash a la Watchtower, this album its different, for me a cornerstone of progmetal genre.

Fates Warning: "Paralllels" Another great album if you like prog metal.

Mr Bungle: Love Mike Patton

Voivod: excellent album, different and far away of their previous releases.

Slint: A must if you like Post Rock

Camel: Great comeback album

Atheist, Death, Nocturnus, Pestilence and Focus are great and technical bands

Love Pendragon and Echolyn.

What a great year!!!
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Voting for slint, that album just melts me. When it came out it was incredibly groundbreaking and they wrote and recorded this stuff as teenagers.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 11:42
Also, I’ll add Death is second for me. I love everything Camel, but the live version of Dust and Dreams off Never Let Go shatters the studio version for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Awesoreno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 13:16
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

91 is the year I got back into rock (I spent most of the 80's in jazz, paying little attrention to rock/pop) with RHCP, Kravitz, Ozric, grunge, but I wasn't back into prog yet.  That would come the following year

I'm not sure why the Magna Carta and Dreapm Theatre are not in this list, but it doesn't hurt since I never liked that stuff (possible exception of Cairo's debut album)... not sure when I discovered those bands, but it wxazs around Anglagard' Hybris release. 

Ozric was my first choicebut Talk 2 didn't have a vote yet. 

Bungle & Miriodor also worth noting.

Dream Theater's Images & Words was released 1992.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 13:27
First vote for Djam Karet! 

Burning the Hard City is a hugely important album to me. It was my introduction to them, and I played the effin' hell out of that disc in my college daze. Practically on a daily basis. Even the roomies were impressed by it, and they didn't know wtf "prog" was!

There are many albums in this poll I love: Strangeitude, Streets, Yume No Oka, Parallels...!

The World isn't one of Pendragon's better albums. It's okay. Nothing special.

I don't regard Canyon Dreams as a 1991 album. Miramar packaged it as a "video album" (remember VHS?) in 1987, with all the music that showed up on the CD. And if you listen to it, its sound is very much of the '80s. A friend and me used to visit this hole-in-the-wall indie shop, and he happened to have it! Being rabid TD fans, we couldn't wait to pop that in the player and hear the "new" album that wasn't released on the usual format.

And I really think Mastermind's Brainstorm should be a part of this poll. Weird how they're practically forgotten now...
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Thus began the Dark Ages of prog for me ... the post 1980s. But, Tori Amos was about to come out with Little Earthquakes, so it wasn't all bad!

I must've been spinning Soundgarden's Bad Motorfinger in 1991. Rusty Cage and Outshined and Slaves & Bulldozers ... Good, wholesome, depressing songs all.

Didn't Roll the Bones by Rush come out at this time? (Come on you Rush fanatics!) I didn't really like that album as a whole, although Dreamline is a great song that made up for all the bunk. Imagine spinning one song off of an entire Rush album for two years from a CD that probably costed $18. That Neurotica song was neurosis-inducing, as was the cheesy rapping. (Counterparts would soon be redeeming.) Speaking of cheese, Tommy the Cat is quite funky on Sailing the Seas of Cheese, although Tales from the Punchbowl is to me the whackiest album from Primus.
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Went with Legendary Pink Dots--since Maria Dimension was one of my favourite albums at that time. 
Close second would be Slint, which is honestly the more important album in the long run. Man what a re-inventor that one was.
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I voted Camel but my favourite from this year, and one of my top 10 favourites of all time is ERIS PLUVIA "Rings of Earthly Light".  It gets some credit for helping to spark revival in the Italian prog scene though it's really more symphonic folk than RPI.  Should definitely be on this list
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Of course Rush's Roll the Bones would have been my #1 choice...but given that they have been omitted and you're making me think I am considering the following: Echolyn; Sieges Even; Fates Warning; Voivod; and Savatage.  Primus' Sailing the Seas of Cheese is also a great album.  The hard part about these threads is I hate voting in threads where I am not familiar with all of the choices and odds are if I haven't heard these albums in the 30 years that they've been out I'm not likely to get around to hearing them.  

Anyhow, my quick thoughts on all of the choices.
 

Atheist - I don't like death metal, so I have not heard this album...although I should probably check it out since I like prog metal.

Camel - a good album...but not amongst their best.  

Death - same as Atheist...I don't like death metal.  I do have The Sound of Perseverance and don't really care for it all that much.

Djam Karet - I recently bought the download of this album from the weekly Cuneiform series of $5 downloads on bandcamp, but I haven't listened to it yet.  Embarrassed

Echolyn - One of my favorite modern (3rd wave?) prog bands.  Their debut is good...but they will release even better albums later on.

Fates Warning - I absolutely love this album.  Might have something to do with the producer being Terry Brown.  I love the drum work a lot on this one.

Kenso - Not familiar with this album at all.  I do own Esoptron though and that is a good album.

The Legendary Pink Dots - Never heard.

Miriodor - one of my favorite avant bands...but I haven't heard this album.

Mr. Bungle - I really like Mike Patton in Faith No More...outside of Faith No More...not so much.

Ozric Tentacles - This is a great album...I like what I hear from the Ozrics...but I've never really been able to get into them that much.  

Pendragon - I love the Pendies.  I've only heard this album a few times though.

Pestilence - see Athiest and Death above.

Peter Hammill - the Baldies speak really highly of this album.  I have never heard it and haven't found it for a decent price or on any of the streaming sites.

Primus - quirky band but great instrumentalists.  They opened for Rush on their tour of this album.  Very enjoyable live show.

Queen - of course I love Queen.  This isn't one of their better albums, but still a good album.  And of course, Steve Howe playing guitar on Innuendo is an added bonus.

Robert Fripp - haven't heard this album.

Robert Wyatt - haven't heard this album

Savatage - great prog metal album with a good concept story.  

Sieges Even - another favorite prog metal band from the 3rd wave of prog bands.  2005 album The Art of Navigating by the Stars is my favorite from them.

Slint - never heard

Swans - never heard

Talk Talk - never heard.  I have the Natural History: The Very Best of Talk Talk, but have only listened to it a few times and have never really gotten into this band.  I probably should check them out further.

Tangerine Dream - never heard this album. I have a number of Tangerine Dream albums, which are enjoyable, but there seems to be a sameness to all of their stuff that I have heard.  Kind of similar to Ozric.

Voivod - possibly my favorite Voivod album.  I like this phase with Nothingface and Outer Limits better than I like their earlier and later albums.  



Highly suggested to give Death and Atheist another chance. You own arguably the most controversial Death record vocally, so that doesn't help you LOL. Once you "hear" these bands you stop concerning with vocals, which is backwards to what we learn w music. You hear past it and it's basically a third guitar. Extremely rewarding because you can hear the intricacies and nuances in the riffing, which rivals a lot of 70's arrangements, let alone riffs.

OP - definitely include Nocturnus Thresholds in 1992!!!

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Camel, with Pendragon a close second.
I used to think Dust and Dreams was not one of their best, but seeing them play some of it live, I gave it another listen and it's an excellent album.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

91 is the year I got back into rock (I spent most of the 80's in jazz, paying little attrention to rock/pop) with RHCP, Kravitz, Ozric, grunge, but I wasn't back into prog yet.  That would come the following year

I'm not sure why the Magna Carta and Dream Theatre are not in this list, but it doesn't hurt since I never liked that stuff (possible exception of Cairo's debut album)... not sure when I discovered those bands, but it wxazs around Anglagard' Hybris release. 

Ozric was my first choicebut Talk 2 didn't have a vote yet. 

Bungle & Miriodor also worth noting.

Dream Theater's Images & Words was released 1992.


that wasn't really the point. Wink

The poll is missing Shadow Gallery and Magellan's respective debut, which are generally considered highlights of the Magna Carta label. (not that I like either)Stern Smile


Edited by Sean Trane - August 23 2020 at 02:34
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The only Magna Carta I know are the English Prog-Folk band from the 1970's. Smile
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Easy choice: Talk Talk.
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Rush's Roll the Bones by a long shot. But since it isn't here, I'll vote for Camel although D&D is not one of my favorites
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Where's We Can't Dance? LOL
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Where's We Can't Dance? LOL

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Ozrics for me

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Rush if it was there
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Couldn't vote for any of these. Don't know them. Was listening to rock back then, and since really discovering prog in later life, I've filled in a lot of gaps. But 1991 has kind of passed me by...

Albums I do love from that year - Ten (Pearl Jam), Temple Of The Dog (self-titled), Nevermind, Badmotorfinger...
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