Prog in the 1990's: The Year 1991
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Topic: Prog in the 1990's: The Year 1991
Posted By: tempest_77
Subject: Prog in the 1990's: The Year 1991
Date Posted: August 19 2020 at 23:34
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Hey everyone! I'm back again a little late today with the 1991 poll. A quick note: I have in fact chosen to leave out Genesis, Marillion, Jethro Tull, Yes, and Rush from this year. I just didn't feel justified in putting them in over higher-rated albums simply due to the bands being popular. Sorry to anyone who wanted to vote for them—some of them might turn up later in the decade. I will be voting for Sieges Even here. ------------- I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!) Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp ! |
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 19 2020 at 23:58
Camel, closely followed by Queen. They're the only two albums I know in the poll. 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 00:02
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Miriodor over Kenso, Echolyn, and Ozrics. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: thief
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 00:06
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Human = Testimony of the Ancients > Unquestionable Presence are clearly TOP3 for me. Used to adore Innuendo as a kid, but grew tired with it really. Slint Spiderland is notoriously overrated piece of music, esp in hipster/posthipster era of 2010s, I hope it ends up with 0
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 00:39
| Innuendo is probably my favourite Queen album so I voted for that. Another not great year although prog was beginning to wake up after its slumber of the late 80's ..albeit very slowly! |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 01:08
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Not a ton of great choices but Show Of Hands is a good album. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 02:31
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91 is the year I got back into rock (I spent most of the 80's in jazz, paying little attrention to rock/pop) with RHCP, Kravitz, Ozric, grunge, but I wasn't back into prog yet. That would come the following year I'm not sure why the Magna Carta and Dreapm Theatre are not in this list, but it doesn't hurt since I never liked that stuff (possible exception of Cairo's debut album)... not sure when I discovered those bands, but it wxazs around Anglagard' Hybris release. Ozric was my first choicebut Talk 2 didn't have a vote yet. Bungle & Miriodor also worth noting.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 02:51
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ALMOST Death Human, but Atheist Unquestionable Presence is a masterpiece of technical jazz metal! 1991 is when tech metal started to pick up; 1993 is the peak IMHO! PLEASE INCLUDE PESTILENCE SPHERES IN YOUR 1993 POLL!!!   ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: thief
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 02:57
If 1993 has Spheres, we definitely need Individual Thought Patterns as well.
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Frenetic Zetetic wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 03:03
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tough choice between Sieges Even and Fates Warning. Happy to see so much progressive metal in the poll.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 03:56
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Much, much stronger year this. Would have liked to vote for Mr. Bungle or Spiderland, with Echolyn, the Pink Dots, Hammill, and Robert Fripp & The League of Crafty Guitarists following, but if I'm honest I have to come back to my favourite bands all the time, and Talk Talk once more have the best of the year. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 05:02
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Queen, with Camel close behind. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 05:32
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Sieges Even - A Sense of Change Savatage - Streets: A Rock Opera Fates Warning - Parallels Death - Human Queen - Innuendo |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 05:33
Which is also my favorite Death record! 1993 also has Atheist Elements, and Cynic Focus. Arguably the breakthrough year for that style of technical progressive metal. All my favorite tech/prog metal bands and records cluster around 1991-1993. Then, Gorguts came and reset the playing field in 1998 with Obscura. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 05:34
Sieges Even has got two votes (nice surprise  ) so I gave my vote to Fates Warning.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 08:18
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Some interesting things there.....but Maria Dimension by The Pink Dots is one of my all time favorite strange lp's. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 08:39
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Of course Rush's Roll the Bones would have been my #1 choice...but given that they have been omitted and you're making me think I am considering the following: Echolyn; Sieges Even; Fates Warning; Voivod; and Savatage. Primus' Sailing the Seas of Cheese is also a great album. The hard part about these threads is I hate voting in threads where I am not familiar with all of the choices and odds are if I haven't heard these albums in the 30 years that they've been out I'm not likely to get around to hearing them. Anyhow, my quick thoughts on all of the choices. Atheist - I don't like death metal, so I have not heard this album...although I should probably check it out since I like prog metal. Camel - a good album...but not amongst their best. Death - same as Atheist...I don't like death metal. I do have The Sound of Perseverance and don't really care for it all that much. Djam Karet - I recently bought the download of this album from the weekly Cuneiform series of $5 downloads on bandcamp, but I haven't listened to it yet. Echolyn - One of my favorite modern (3rd wave?) prog bands. Their debut is good...but they will release even better albums later on. Fates Warning - I absolutely love this album. Might have something to do with the producer being Terry Brown. I love the drum work a lot on this one. Kenso - Not familiar with this album at all. I do own Esoptron though and that is a good album. The Legendary Pink Dots - Never heard. Miriodor - one of my favorite avant bands...but I haven't heard this album. Mr. Bungle - I really like Mike Patton in Faith No More...outside of Faith No More...not so much. Ozric Tentacles - This is a great album...I like what I hear from the Ozrics...but I've never really been able to get into them that much. Pendragon - I love the Pendies. I've only heard this album a few times though. Pestilence - see Athiest and Death above. Peter Hammill - the Baldies speak really highly of this album. I have never heard it and haven't found it for a decent price or on any of the streaming sites. Primus - quirky band but great instrumentalists. They opened for Rush on their tour of this album. Very enjoyable live show. Queen - of course I love Queen. This isn't one of their better albums, but still a good album. And of course, Steve Howe playing guitar on Innuendo is an added bonus. Robert Fripp - haven't heard this album. Robert Wyatt - haven't heard this album Savatage - great prog metal album with a good concept story. Sieges Even - another favorite prog metal band from the 3rd wave of prog bands. 2005 album The Art of Navigating by the Stars is my favorite from them. Slint - never heard Swans - never heard Talk Talk - never heard. I have the Natural History: The Very Best of Talk Talk, but have only listened to it a few times and have never really gotten into this band. I probably should check them out further. Tangerine Dream - never heard this album. I have a number of Tangerine Dream albums, which are enjoyable, but there seems to be a sameness to all of their stuff that I have heard. Kind of similar to Ozric. Voivod - possibly my favorite Voivod album. I like this phase with Nothingface and Outer Limits better than I like their earlier and later albums. ------------- 
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 09:17
| Dust and Dreams. A great return for Camel, after a few years of not putting an album out. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 09:53
| I think prog metal should have their own polls but that's just my opinion. I'll probably vote for Camel even though I haven't heard most and I am typically against voting for an album when I haven't heard the others but I think that makes more sense in smaller polls. For bigger ones it doesn't matter as much. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 09:55
I believe it's because Andy had legal battles with his former record label and also moved to California. Not sure what he was doing in all of those seven years but apparently he did start work on dust and dreams as early as 1988. One of my all time favorite albums regardless though. There's something very captivating about this album.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 10:38
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Talk Talk > Ozrics > Mr Bungle > Miriodor ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 10:56
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Lots of good selections here however MR BUNGLE was and still is one of the most creative and mind-blowing musical forces in all of music history so ride the Carosoul and Squeeze Your Macaroni, it's Bungle time. -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 11:11
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Many great albums!! Voted Talk Talk, but i really loved these albums Sieges Even: "A sense of Change" shows the evolution of this great band, great vocals by Jogi Kaiser, their debut and sophomore albums are tech thrash a la Watchtower, this album its different, for me a cornerstone of progmetal genre. Fates Warning: "Paralllels" Another great album if you like prog metal. Mr Bungle: Love Mike Patton Voivod: excellent album, different and far away of their previous releases. Slint: A must if you like Post Rock Camel: Great comeback album Atheist, Death, Nocturnus, Pestilence and Focus are great and technical bands Love Pendragon and Echolyn. What a great year!!!
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 11:39
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Voting for slint, that album just melts me. When it came out it was incredibly groundbreaking and they wrote and recorded this stuff as teenagers. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 11:42
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Also, I’ll add Death is second for me. I love everything Camel, but the live version of Dust and Dreams off Never Let Go shatters the studio version for me. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 13:16
Dream Theater's Images & Words was released 1992.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 13:27
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First vote for Djam Karet! Burning the Hard City is a hugely important album to me. It was my introduction to them, and I played the effin' hell out of that disc in my college daze. Practically on a daily basis. Even the roomies were impressed by it, and they didn't know wtf "prog" was! There are many albums in this poll I love: Strangeitude, Streets, Yume No Oka, Parallels...! The World isn't one of Pendragon's better albums. It's okay. Nothing special. I don't regard Canyon Dreams as a 1991 album. Miramar packaged it as a "video album" (remember VHS?) in 1987, with all the music that showed up on the CD. And if you listen to it, its sound is very much of the '80s. A friend and me used to visit this hole-in-the-wall indie shop, and he happened to have it! Being rabid TD fans, we couldn't wait to pop that in the player and hear the "new" album that wasn't released on the usual format. And I really think Mastermind's Brainstorm should be a part of this poll. Weird how they're practically forgotten now... ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 13:54
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Thus began the Dark Ages of prog for me ... the post 1980s. But, Tori Amos was about to come out with Little Earthquakes, so it wasn't all bad! I must've been spinning Soundgarden's Bad Motorfinger in 1991. Rusty Cage and Outshined and Slaves & Bulldozers ... Good, wholesome, depressing songs all. Didn't Roll the Bones by Rush come out at this time? (Come on you Rush fanatics!) I didn't really like that album as a whole, although Dreamline is a great song that made up for all the bunk. Imagine spinning one song off of an entire Rush album for two years from a CD that probably costed $18. That Neurotica song was neurosis-inducing, as was the cheesy rapping. (Counterparts would soon be redeeming.) Speaking of cheese, Tommy the Cat is quite funky on Sailing the Seas of Cheese, although Tales from the Punchbowl is to me the whackiest album from Primus. |
Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 15:11
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Went with Legendary Pink Dots--since Maria Dimension was one of my favourite albums at that time. Close second would be Slint, which is honestly the more important album in the long run. Man what a re-inventor that one was. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 20 2020 at 20:15
| I voted Camel but my favourite from this year, and one of my top 10 favourites of all time is ERIS PLUVIA "Rings of Earthly Light". It gets some credit for helping to spark revival in the Italian prog scene though it's really more symphonic folk than RPI. Should definitely be on this list |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: August 21 2020 at 01:21
Highly suggested to give Death and Atheist another chance. You own arguably the most controversial Death record vocally, so that doesn't help you LOL. Once you "hear" these bands you stop concerning with vocals, which is backwards to what we learn w music. You hear past it and it's basically a third guitar. Extremely rewarding because you can hear the intricacies and nuances in the riffing, which rivals a lot of 70's arrangements, let alone riffs. OP - definitely include Nocturnus Thresholds in 1992!!! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 21 2020 at 08:04
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Camel, with Pendragon a close second. I used to think Dust and Dreams was not one of their best, but seeing them play some of it live, I gave it another listen and it's an excellent album. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 21 2020 at 10:51
that wasn't really the point. The poll is missing Shadow Gallery and Magellan's respective debut, which are generally considered highlights of the Magna Carta label. (not that I like either)
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 21 2020 at 11:19
The only Magna Carta I know are the English Prog-Folk band from the 1970's. 
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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: August 22 2020 at 14:49
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Easy choice: Talk Talk. |
Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: August 23 2020 at 00:55
| Rush's Roll the Bones by a long shot. But since it isn't here, I'll vote for Camel although D&D is not one of my favorites |
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 23 2020 at 07:55
Where's We Can't Dance?  ------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten |
Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: August 23 2020 at 20:57
We Can't Dance is better than Invisible Touch or their self-titled album, but it's still extremely mediocre at best IMO. ------------- I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!) Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp ! |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: August 26 2020 at 07:54
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Ozrics for me or Rush if it was there ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: August 28 2020 at 03:52
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Couldn't vote for any of these. Don't know them. Was listening to rock back then, and since really discovering prog in later life, I've filled in a lot of gaps. But 1991 has kind of passed me by... Albums I do love from that year - Ten (Pearl Jam), Temple Of The Dog (self-titled), Nevermind, Badmotorfinger... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 01 2024 at 01:16
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gentle bump!
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: December 01 2024 at 01:23
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Camel - Dust And Dreams
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 01 2024 at 09:51
At first, I thought this was one of my old polls, but then I remembered that you never bump my polls.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 01 2024 at 09:58
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I've given FW a vote, because Parallels is great.. > Camel > Pendies ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |