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Poll Question: Which is your favorite album?
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    Posted: August 19 2020 at 23:34
Hey everyone! I'm back again a little late today with the 1991 poll. A quick note: I have in fact chosen to leave out Genesis, Marillion, Jethro Tull, Yes, and Rush from this year. I just didn't feel justified in putting them in over higher-rated albums simply due to the bands being popular. Sorry to anyone who wanted to vote for them—some of them might turn up later in the decade. 

I will be voting for Sieges Even here. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2020 at 23:58
Camel, closely followed by Queen. They're the only two albums I know in the poll. Embarrassed
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Miriodor over Kenso, Echolyn, and Ozrics. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote thief Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 00:06
Human = Testimony of the Ancients > Unquestionable Presence

are clearly TOP3 for me. Used to adore Innuendo as a kid, but grew tired with it really.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 00:39
Innuendo is probably my favourite Queen album so I voted for that. Another not great year although prog was beginning to wake up after its slumber of the late 80's ..albeit very slowly! 
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Not a ton of great choices but Show Of Hands is a good album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 02:31
91 is the year I got back into rock (I spent most of the 80's in jazz, paying little attrention to rock/pop) with RHCP, Kravitz, Ozric, grunge, but I wasn't back into prog yet.  That would come the following year

I'm not sure why the Magna Carta and Dreapm Theatre are not in this list, but it doesn't hurt since I never liked that stuff (possible exception of Cairo's debut album)... not sure when I discovered those bands, but it wxazs around Anglagard' Hybris release. 

Ozric was my first choicebut Talk 2 didn't have a vote yet. 

Bungle & Miriodor also worth noting.


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ALMOST Death Human, but Atheist Unquestionable Presence is a masterpiece of technical jazz metal! 1991 is when tech metal started to pick up; 1993 is the peak IMHO!

 PLEASE INCLUDE PESTILENCE SPHERES IN YOUR 1993 POLL!!!  Wink Cool

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote thief Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 02:57
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

ALMOST Death Human, but Atheist Unquestionable Presence is a masterpiece of technical jazz metal! 1991 is when tech metal started to pick up; 1993 is the peak IMHO!

 PLEASE INCLUDE PESTILENCE SPHERES IN YOUR 1993 POLL!!!  Wink Cool


If 1993 has Spheres, we definitely need Individual Thought Patterns as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 03:03
tough choice between Sieges Even and Fates Warning. 

Happy to see so much progressive metal in the poll. ClapBig smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 03:56
Much, much stronger year this. Would have liked to vote for Mr. Bungle or Spiderland, with Echolyn, the Pink Dots, Hammill, and Robert Fripp & The League of Crafty Guitarists following, but if I'm honest I have to come back to my favourite bands all the time, and Talk Talk once more have the best of the year.




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Queen, with Camel close behind.
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Sieges Even - A Sense of Change

Savatage - Streets: A Rock Opera

Fates Warning - Parallels

Death - Human

Queen - Innuendo


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Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

ALMOST Death Human, but Atheist Unquestionable Presence is a masterpiece of technical jazz metal! 1991 is when tech metal started to pick up; 1993 is the peak IMHO!

 PLEASE INCLUDE PESTILENCE SPHERES IN YOUR 1993 POLL!!!  Wink Cool


If 1993 has Spheres, we definitely need Individual Thought Patterns as well.

Which is also my favorite Death record! 1993 also has Atheist Elements, and Cynic Focus. Arguably the breakthrough year for that style of technical progressive metal. All my favorite tech/prog metal bands and records cluster around 1991-1993.

Then, Gorguts came and reset the playing field in 1998 with Obscura.

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Sieges Even has got two votes (nice surprise Thumbs Up) so I gave my vote to Fates Warning. 
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Some interesting things there.....but Maria Dimension by The Pink Dots is one of my all time favorite strange lp's.
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Of course Rush's Roll the Bones would have been my #1 choice...but given that they have been omitted and you're making me think I am considering the following: Echolyn; Sieges Even; Fates Warning; Voivod; and Savatage.  Primus' Sailing the Seas of Cheese is also a great album.  The hard part about these threads is I hate voting in threads where I am not familiar with all of the choices and odds are if I haven't heard these albums in the 30 years that they've been out I'm not likely to get around to hearing them.  

Anyhow, my quick thoughts on all of the choices.
 

Atheist - I don't like death metal, so I have not heard this album...although I should probably check it out since I like prog metal.

Camel - a good album...but not amongst their best.  

Death - same as Atheist...I don't like death metal.  I do have The Sound of Perseverance and don't really care for it all that much.

Djam Karet - I recently bought the download of this album from the weekly Cuneiform series of $5 downloads on bandcamp, but I haven't listened to it yet.  Embarrassed

Echolyn - One of my favorite modern (3rd wave?) prog bands.  Their debut is good...but they will release even better albums later on.

Fates Warning - I absolutely love this album.  Might have something to do with the producer being Terry Brown.  I love the drum work a lot on this one.

Kenso - Not familiar with this album at all.  I do own Esoptron though and that is a good album.

The Legendary Pink Dots - Never heard.

Miriodor - one of my favorite avant bands...but I haven't heard this album.

Mr. Bungle - I really like Mike Patton in Faith No More...outside of Faith No More...not so much.

Ozric Tentacles - This is a great album...I like what I hear from the Ozrics...but I've never really been able to get into them that much.  

Pendragon - I love the Pendies.  I've only heard this album a few times though.

Pestilence - see Athiest and Death above.

Peter Hammill - the Baldies speak really highly of this album.  I have never heard it and haven't found it for a decent price or on any of the streaming sites.

Primus - quirky band but great instrumentalists.  They opened for Rush on their tour of this album.  Very enjoyable live show.

Queen - of course I love Queen.  This isn't one of their better albums, but still a good album.  And of course, Steve Howe playing guitar on Innuendo is an added bonus.

Robert Fripp - haven't heard this album.

Robert Wyatt - haven't heard this album

Savatage - great prog metal album with a good concept story.  

Sieges Even - another favorite prog metal band from the 3rd wave of prog bands.  2005 album The Art of Navigating by the Stars is my favorite from them.

Slint - never heard

Swans - never heard

Talk Talk - never heard.  I have the Natural History: The Very Best of Talk Talk, but have only listened to it a few times and have never really gotten into this band.  I probably should check them out further.

Tangerine Dream - never heard this album. I have a number of Tangerine Dream albums, which are enjoyable, but there seems to be a sameness to all of their stuff that I have heard.  Kind of similar to Ozric.

Voivod - possibly my favorite Voivod album.  I like this phase with Nothingface and Outer Limits better than I like their earlier and later albums.  




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Dust and Dreams. A great return for Camel, after a few years of not putting an album out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 09:53
I think prog metal should have their own polls but that's just my opinion. I'll probably vote for Camel even though I haven't heard most and I am typically against voting for an album when I haven't heard the others but I think that makes more sense in smaller polls. For bigger ones it doesn't matter as much.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2020 at 09:55
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Dust and Dreams. A great return for Camel, after a few years of not putting an album out.

I believe it's because Andy had legal battles with his former record label and also moved to California. Not sure what he was doing in all of those seven years but apparently he did start work on dust and dreams as early as 1988.

One of my all time favorite albums regardless though. There's something very captivating about this album. 


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - August 20 2020 at 10:17
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