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1. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick
2. Comus: First Utterance
3. Roy Harper: Stormcock
4. Judy Dyble / Andy Lewis: Summer Dancing
5. Tim Buckley: Starsailor
6. Piirpauke: s/t
7. the Pentangle: Basket Of Light
8. Strawbs: From the Witchwood
9. Spirogyra: St. Radigunds
10. Los Jaivas: Alturas De Macchu Picchu

Have to re-do my list, because really didnīt come into my mind Roy Harper & Tim Buckley are also in progfolk (in PA:s logic they could have been crossover prog or prog related or even symph prog).


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I must admit that I haven't actually listened to 10 different prog folk artists. So here are my favourite 5 star prog folk albums that I have actually have heard:

1. Thick As A Brick - Tull ...although SFTW is more folky
2. The Tāin - Horslips
3. Leige And Leif - Fairport Convention.....I know, I know, they are prog-related but what a ground-breaking album.
3. Dancing On A Cold Wind - Carmen
4. Barafundle - Gorky's Zygotic Mynci ....hey Sean Trane, any news on getting these guys into Prog-folk on PA...I put in my suggestion months ago with no answer.
5. Avocet - Bert Jansch .....yep, prog-related but really prog folk album
6. The Nine Maidens - John Renbourn....same as above re Bert Jansch
7. Basket Of Light - Pentangle
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This is only PA Prog.Folk albums - if it was any Folk album would be different 

Jethro Tull - Minstrel In The Gallery

The Decemberists - The Crane Wife

Midlake - Antiphon

Flor De Loto - Flor De Loto

Dead Can Dance - Into The Labyrinth

Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps

Tim Buckley - Happy Sad

Ian Anderson - The Secret Language Of Birds

Iona - Another Realm

Fuchsia – Fuchsia



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1. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
2. Moulettes - Preternatural

( that's all I can do from the PA definition)

Others that would not count for various reasons ( but all are Folk related imo)
3. Claire Hammill - Voices
4. Al Stewart - Last Days Of The Century
5. Suzanne Vega - s/t
6. Wolf People - Fain
7. Steelye Span - Dirty Rotten b*****ds
8. Fairport Convention - Liege an Leif
9. Enya - Watermark
10. Vangelis - Odes (ft Irene Papas) 
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

good to see Clannad, Jan Dukes, North Sea Radio Orchestra, Horslips

Question:  Have you heard Moving Hearts?  They were Christy Moore's next band after Planxty.  Their s/t is on my list
 

The name does not sound totally unknown to me, but I have not heard their music.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'd love to have included the votes for Harmonium in my Prog Folk poll, but they're in the Symphonic Prog section of PA. Smile


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Latest poll update:-
 
1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (100 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (85 points)
4. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points)
5. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points)
6. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points)
7. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
7. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
9. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points)
10. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points)
 
 Just under the radar:-
 
11. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points)
12. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
12. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (30 points)
12. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points)
12. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points)
12. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (30 points)
12. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
12. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)


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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I'm not really interested in the designation PA makes regarding progressive folk, particularly since Fairport Convention, Pentangle and Steeley Span aren't included.
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Bingo!

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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2) Fairport Convention - Liege & Lief
From a progressive folk standpoint, Liege & Lief was as important to the British Folk genre as Bob Dylan going electric was to American folk, Fairport indeed had finally abandoned the Dylan songs dotting albums up to Unhalfbricking and switched full-scale to songs with wholly Old English themes (and in the process, sent other bands scrambling to the local libraries to find volumes of Child Ballads to plunder). The amazing thing about the album, and the skill employed by Richard Thompson, Sandy Denny, et al., is that the original songs on the album had the same feel and scale as the 16th century ballads like Tam Lin, Reynardine and Matty Groves.
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Outstanding write up ... and Reynardine's version is one of the prettiest things ever recorded in my mind!

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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3) Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
Released in 1968, this is perhaps the first truly "progressive folk" album. The lyrics are poetry in motion, more refined than anything Dylan did, and four of the compositions are extended reflections of 7-10 minutes.
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Love the album and still have it ... funny thing, never thought of this album or Van Morrison as blues, folk, this or that ... it was just Van Morrison! And this is not his only great album!

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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4) Roy Harper - Stormcock
"One Man Rock and Roll Band" is the apt definition of this album, save for the timely assistance of one S. Flavius Mercurius (Jimmy Page) and David Bedford with occasional organ and orchestration. It is an album that is quite rightly mentioned in the same breath as "progressive folk" because everything about it, the lyrics, the compositional structure and the song lengths are the basic definition of the genre.
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Absolutely ... the sad thing for me being that the tendency in PA is to glorify the top ten, and someone who couldn't careless about the top 10K will never ever get even listened to ... I can see it now someone else trying to review Roy's long pieces ... rambling lyrics and horrible voice ... etc etc etc ... it's uncanny and insane, and is something that has been disrespected in music for a long time ... almost all GREAT folk artists have been disrespected a lot more than rock folks have ... but it takes someone who doesn't care what you think, or I think, BECAUSE IT'S HIS MUSIC ... NOT YOURS!

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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5) Pentangle - Basket of Light
Folk jazz, particularly as employed by the legendary acoustic guitar masters Bert Jansch and John Renbourn in crafting traditional songs into something else altogether, makes this a worthwhile listen to anyone who uses the word "progressive". I'd probably throw in their next album Cruel Sister as well with the incredible 18-minute version of Jack Orion.
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I've given up talking about this band ... in the earlier days I did ... A LOT ... because it was one of the early things I first got attached to in America ... after Paul Butterfield, Bob Dylan and a couple of other things that were big in the Chicago area in the late 60's that did not have anything to do with my getting my head beaten up!

The musicianship alone, should always have this listed in a top of the tops ... but no ... DE ... it doesn't have a 12 layer of keyboards and some one playing it to make it "progressive" and it will never get the recognition because the majority of youngsters are only going to listen to the big 5 and the top ten -- maybe -- before deciding that their metal is better! And listening to Pentangle right after one of those?

I would probably fire that DJ!

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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7) Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III
What? Led Zeppelin? From a progressivity standpoint, Zeppelin ignored the monster-hit that was Led Zeppelin II/Whole Lotta Love ...
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As much as I like LZ and have all the albums, I think I would leave this one behind ... from a performance standpoint and type of work, this music was a lot more than just rock'n'roll and it belongs in a "progressive" environment for their outstanding shows. There was a massive reason why the bootlegs in those days sold like hot cakes!

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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Steeleye Span - Below the Salt / Parcel of Rogues
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A friend of ours used to make funny comments about this band ... from Maddy's horrible cackle to what's an electric guitar doing here?

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde / The Basement Tapes
Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
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BonB deserves its "prog folk" designation and is STILL a masterpiece of an album that I am not sure or convinced that most folks here that worship at the altar of the "progressive Gods" ... will actually sit down and listen to it in its entirety. I've even heard some folks say that one song is "tired" ... and I think that he meant that he has heard it one too many times!

Nick, is a different story. I've had one of his albums for 45 years, and I liked it, and I could never figure out how people were comparing him to Syd and others around the time ... and last year I got the other albums, which my sisters already had and I had heard them before at that time. I think the way that these were recorded and put together, makes this a "progressive" album, as I'm not sure it would sound as good if it was just him and his guitar ... which is always a massive issue. But it was lovely material!

Lastly ... France and specially Spain, have a massive history of "folk" music, and in Spain a lot of it is courtesy of the gypsy music, which was always quite "progressive" in that it already  mixed different things into its thread of a song or a piece of music to dance and fly to. The biggest issue in Spain, is that many of these feature the Spanish Guitar and folks will immediately tune out the folk element ... some examples of which you can find in the band CARMEN ... specially their 2nd album (1st was more rock and the 3rd more JT -- who stole the bass player and killed the band!)

Thanks for your entry ... it is massive!
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Hadn't realized Moulettes were in Folk so had to redo my list

1. Roy Harper - Stormcock
2. Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun
3. North Sea Radio Orchestra - I A Moon
4. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick
5. Comus: First Utterance
6. Moulettes - Preternatural
7. Jan Dukes De Grey: Mice and Rats In the Loft
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Pentangle are included in the Prog Folk section of PA and they're currently in 9th & 12th place in the poll with "Cruel Sister" and "Basket of Light" respectively. Smile

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Sticking to the genre as PA has it (such as it is...):
1.Tull-Songs From The Wood
2.Dead can Dance- Within the Realm...
3.Strawbs- Hero and Heroine
4.Roy Harper-Stormcock
5.Espers- first
6.Spyrogyra- Bells ,Boots...
7.Pentangle - Basket...
8.Fuchsia-st
9.Trees- On The Shore
10.Comus -First....
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Latest poll update:-
 
1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (102 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points)
4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points)
5. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points)
6. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points)
7. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points)
8. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
8. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
8. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (40 points)
 
 Just under the radar:-
 
11. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points)
12. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points)
12. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (35 points)
14. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points)
15. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
15. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points)
15. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points)
15. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
15. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

1. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
2. Moulettes - Preternatural
3. Dead Can Dance - Within The Realms of a Dying Sun

( that's all I can do from the PA definition)

 

I've now added a 3rd choice to my list Smile
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Poll updated with RichardH's vote added:-
 
1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (102 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points)
4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points)
5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (55 points)
6. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points)
7. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points)
8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points)
9. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
9. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
 
 
 Just under the radar:-
 
11. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points)
12. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points)
12. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (35 points)
14. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points)
15. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
15. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points)
15. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points)
15. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
15. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)


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ok, time to throw in the Strawbs (hopefully)
 
1) TAAB-Tull
2) Stormcock-Harper
3) Hero and Heroine-Strawbs
4) Basket Of Light-Pentangle
5) Comus-First Utterance
 
The rest of mine are probably prog related. 


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I definitely don't know enough folk prog, so resources get thin when it comes to rank 9 and 10. Anyway this thread made me remember Miranda Sex Garden, whom I really liked at the time but have somehow forgotten in the meantime.
1) I a Moon - North Sea Radio Orchestra
2) Heavy Horses - Jethro Tull
3) Traumstadt live - Hoelderlin
4) The Serpent's Egg - Dead Can Dance
5) Lorca - Tim Buckley
6) Magical Ring - Clannad
7) Stick Music - Clogs
8) From the Witchwood - Strawbs
9) Suspiria - Miranda Sex Garden
10) Chris Karrer - Chris Karrer


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Latest poll update with SteveG and Lewian's votes added
 
1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (112 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points)
4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points)
5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (55 points)
6. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points)
7. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points)
8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points)
9. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (47 points)
9. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points)
 
 Just under the radar:-
 
11. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
11. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
13. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points)
14. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points)
15. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points)
16. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
16. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points)
16. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points)
16. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
16. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)
21. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (29 points)
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Latest poll update with SteveG and Lewian's votes added
 
1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (112 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points)
4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points)
5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (55 points)
6. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points)
7. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points)
8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points)
9. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (47 points)
9. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points)
 
 Just under the radar:-
 
11. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
11. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
13. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points)
14. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points)
15. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points)
16. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
16. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points)
16. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points)
16. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
16. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)
21. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (29 points)

not to be nitpicky but there were recently 2 #3 votes for Hero and Heroine (Steve and the good Doctor) so that should put them in the under the radar category shouldn't it?
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^^ Thanks for pointing out my omission. I've now added the Strawbs Hero & Heroine album to the poll in the 16th position.
 
1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (112 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points)
4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points)
5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (55 points)
6. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points)
7. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points)
8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points)
9. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (47 points)
9. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points)
 
 Just under the radar:-
 
11. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
11. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
13. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points)
14. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points)
15. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points)
16. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
16. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points)
16. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points)
16. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
16. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)
16. STRAWBS - Hero and Heroine (30 points)
22. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (29 points)
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Hi,

OK .. here's a try ... don't even know about all this!

1. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - Earthspan
2. ROY HARPER - Stormcock
3. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance of the Celtic Harp
4. ANTHONY PHILLIPS - The Geese and the Ghost
5. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light
6. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind
7. AL STEWART - Past, Present and Future
8. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun 
9. STRAWBS - Ghosts
10. STACKRIDGE - Mr. Mick
11. CAPABILITY BROWN - Voice
12. CANO - Au Nord de Notre Vie
13. MALICORNE - Almanach
14. RAMASES - Space Hymns
15. SANDY DENNY - Anything of her early stuff
999. JETHRO TULL - Tired of too much JT everywhere including my bathroom!

Honorable Mentions:
Los Jaivas
Joni Mitchell
String Driven Thing (was all acoustic in the early days)
Nick Drake
Bothy Band
Bob Dylan (BonB)
Horslips (Early stuff)
Spyrogyra (I have not heard enough of it yet)

PS: Honestly, I have to go through my collection just to find things I missed ... I'll probably add 5 or 6 more things!
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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