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The markets are freaking out, and that could end up being a bigger story than the virus, after the whole thing has played out. Someone is going to get very rich on the back of all this.
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Wouldn't surprise me if China, who started this whole thing and is now practically the only country with Corona under control while everyone else will still be struggling for months, will emerge as global economic power number one.


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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

The markets are freaking out, and that could end up being a bigger story than the virus, after the whole thing has played out. Someone is going to get very rich on the back of all this.
Yes, a few will get rich while the entire country suffers. It's enough to boil our Marxist blood. Wink
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Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Wouldn't surprise me if China, who started this whole thing and is now practically the only country with Corona under control while everyone else will still be struggling for months, will emerge as global economic power number one.
Supposedly, China is miffed at the US for blaming the virus on them and has threatened health aid sanctions against the US. Wtf?
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Yes, and just mentioning the biological weapons facility developing SARS-based viruses just down the road from that food market is akin to spreading malicious rumors and conspiracy theories. China would never, ever do such a thing. They value their citizens highly (especially students) and have the highest respect for life. More bat or snake, anyone? LOL
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Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Wouldn't surprise me if China, who started this whole thing and is now practically the only country with Corona under control while everyone else will still be struggling for months, will emerge as global economic power number one.
 
I did notice on the news last night that they quickly mentioned that the new hospitals China built in a hurry for the virus are now emptying out and they moved onto to a longer piece about a bloke stockpiling bog rolls. Confused
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

The markets are freaking out, and that could end up being a bigger story than the virus, after the whole thing has played out. Someone is going to get very rich on the back of all this.
Yes, a few will get rich while the entire country suffers. It's enough to boil our Marxist blood. Wink


Well, that's essentially what happened after 2008. The banks were bailed and the debt passed on to everyone else, while the speculators cleaned up. The system is apparently designed to work like that. Ron Paul had the right idea; make it clear to the banks that if they fail, they're on their own, and the architects of the collapse go to jail.

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Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Wouldn't surprise me if China, who started this whole thing and is now practically the only country with Corona under control while everyone else will still be struggling for months, will emerge as global economic power number one.



We only have China's word that it's under control. Their record on truth is even worse than our own. I wouldn't be surprised if it was dangerously out of control over there.
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Oh yeah, true.
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Some points;

1. Idiots claiming the common flu each year is worse. Well, COVID 19 is already a much bigger pandemic than SARS and MERS combined and has already taken more lives than SARS and MERS combined.

2. Anti-bacterial face masks and hand cleansers are USELESS against a virus. Surgeons all over the world are pleading - stop buying up all our face masks, we need them so that bacteria from us doesn't infect the person on the operating table.

3. I am not worried about the hysteria and panic buying, I live in rural Sweden, I haven't seen any of it. The only thing that worries me is the virus itself and protecting my sick 16 year old son from it.

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We are out of hand sanitizer in the stores here, but I haven't checked the toilet paper situation yet. Gee, I might have to use paper towels and other stuff I can't flush down the toilet. Shocked

In all seriousness, if epidemiologists and virologists are telling people over 80, people with pre-existing conditions, and compromised immune systems to avoid crowds and make sure they have enough supplies then maybe this is something a bit more than "just the flu." This hoarding is keeping those most vulnerable from getting the resources they need, especially if they need to isolate themselves for an extended period of time. 
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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:


2. Anti-bacterial face masks and hand cleansers are USELESS against 
Not sure this is correct as far as hand-cleansers are concerned. See e.g.:
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

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2. Anti-bacterial face masks and hand cleansers are USELESS against 
Not sure this is correct as far as hand-cleansers are concerned. See e.g.:
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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

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2. Anti-bacterial face masks and hand cleansers are USELESS against 
Not sure this is correct as far as hand-cleansers are concerned. See e.g.:

Did you read the article? One of its main sources is Professor Sally Bloomfield of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

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2. Anti-bacterial face masks and hand cleansers are USELESS against 
Not sure this is correct as far as hand-cleansers are concerned. See e.g.:

Did you read the article? One of its main sources is Professor Sally Bloomfield of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.

My Main source of info is the doctors and surgeons just metres away from me at the moment.
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Please, dont talk about madness. This is a real emergency and I am worry that America dont understand.

When the numbers of the dead persons will be high, maybe America will understand, but it will be too late.

And anyway, here in Europe health is a right, we have not to pay for dagnosis and cure.
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Also, what Swedish doctors are saying is that warm water and soap is more effective against the fatty shell of the virus and removes it more effectively than alcohol based sanitisers and anti-bacterials. Any surgeon will tell you it is the process of the brisk movement, as they themselves do, when washing their hands that is of most importance not the medium being used.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

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Supposedly, China is miffed at the US for blaming the virus on them and has threatened health aid sanctions against the US. Wtf?

Hi,

Heck, I originally thought that it was a ploy to get Taiwan and Hong Kong in trouble so that China would be welcomed and thanked for helping!  Confused


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Everything I have read from the medical end simply states to take the same precautions you do with preventing influenza. Being CLEAN is the most important, washing your hands often and especially after coming in contact with groups or simply going to the store. Limit hand shaking and hugs for now........
I can't imagine any doctor saying "don't use antibacterial products", its something and it helps clean your hands, with simple soap and warm water being the best option.

If you become sick with a fever then you are in a different genre of people.......You should not go anywhere!!

I am 100% confident in the US medical system that it will be controlled sooner than later. I am not sure about the comment that "America dont understand"?? Confused Reports I hear and read about that there are several vaccines ready for testing, although that will take time.

My local SuperWalmart has been out of toilet paper since the weekend, no bleach and very little cleaning products on the shelves....People clearly panic and bought all of it, not sure why. 
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Please, dont talk about madness. This is a real emergency and I am worry that America dont understand.

When the numbers of the dead persons will be high, maybe America will understand, but it will be too late.

And anyway, here in Europe health is a right, we have not to pay for dagnosis and cure.
Don't worry, we understand it's bad. It almost wrecked our economy and many started die in the US. We can't do much without the necessary testing equipment but our stupid government is trying.

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