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Poll Question: Which British Prog band had the best debut album?
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I havenīt ever been very keen to discuss whatīs prog and whatīs not, but anyway, if we go to that very puritan thinking (whatīs here quite common) whatīs prog, there are not many fullblood prog albums on this list. I think only Alan Parsons, Camel, Curved Air, ELP, Enid, GG, Hatfield, Jade Warrior, KC, Renaissance & Yes -albums can be said prog albums. Spooky Tooth & Wishbone Ash are not even put prog category as bands in progarchives.

One thatīs really missing from these brit prog polls is folk prog: Comus debut really should have been here.


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  1. KC
  2. Gentle Giant
  3. ELP
  4. Camel

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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I havenīt ever been very keen to discuss whatīs prog and whatīs not, but anyway, if we go to that very puritan thinking (whatīs here quite common) whatīs prog, there are not many fullblood prog albums on this list. I think only Alan Parsons, Camel, Curved Air, ELP, Enid, GG, Hatfield, Jade Warrior, KC, Renaissance & Yes -albums can be said prog albums. Spooky Tooth & Wishbone Ash are not even put prog category as bands in progarchives.

One thatīs really missing from these brit prog polls is folk prog: Comus debut really should have been here.
I already posted a Prog-Folk poll late last year. Wink Jethro Tull won the poll by a wide margin.
 
I also posted a second Prog-Folk poll which didn't include Jethro Tull. Smile


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I havenīt ever been very keen to discuss whatīs prog and whatīs not, but anyway, if we go to that very puritan thinking (whatīs here quite common) whatīs prog, there are not many fullblood prog albums on this list. I think only Alan Parsons, Camel, Curved Air, ELP, Enid, GG, Hatfield, Jade Warrior, KC, Renaissance & Yes -albums can be said prog albums. Spooky Tooth & Wishbone Ash are not even put prog category as bands in progarchives.

One thatīs really missing from these brit prog polls is folk prog: Comus debut really should have been here.
I already posted a Prog-Folk poll late last year. Wink Jethro Tull won the poll by a wide margin.
 
I also posted a second Prog-Folk poll which didn't include Jethro Tull. Smile
Ok, Iīll look them...
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I havenīt ever been very keen to discuss whatīs prog and whatīs not, but anyway, if we go to that very puritan thinking (whatīs here quite common) whatīs prog, there are not many fullblood prog albums on this list. I think only Alan Parsons, Camel, Curved Air, ELP, Enid, GG, Hatfield, Jade Warrior, KC, Renaissance & Yes -albums can be said prog albums. Spooky Tooth & Wishbone Ash are not even put prog category as bands in progarchives.

One thatīs really missing from these brit prog polls is folk prog: Comus debut really should have been here.
I already posted a Prog-Folk poll late last year. Wink Jethro Tull won the poll by a wide margin.
 
I also posted a second Prog-Folk poll which didn't include Jethro Tull. Smile
Ok, Iīll look them...
Pentangle won my second Prog-Folk poll with seven votes, but I'm sorry to say Comus didn't receive any votes at all. Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2020 at 04:35
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I havenīt ever been very keen to discuss whatīs prog and whatīs not, but anyway, if we go to that very puritan thinking (whatīs here quite common) whatīs prog, there are not many fullblood prog albums on this list. I think only Alan Parsons, Camel, Curved Air, ELP, Enid, GG, Hatfield, Jade Warrior, KC, Renaissance & Yes -albums can be said prog albums. Spooky Tooth & Wishbone Ash are not even put prog category as bands in progarchives.

One thatīs really missing from these brit prog polls is folk prog: Comus debut really should have been here.
I already posted a Prog-Folk poll late last year. Wink Jethro Tull won the poll by a wide margin.
 
I also posted a second Prog-Folk poll which didn't include Jethro Tull. Smile
Ok, Iīll look them...
Pentangle won my second Prog-Folk poll with seven votes, but I'm sorry to say Comus didn't receive any votes at all. Confused
Quite strange, I think I am not only Comus-fan here...Like quite much Pentangle too, but Comus is absolutely great!
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

First ELP album for me. Not a bad track on it and no song with two good minutes then ten minutes of noodling. Wink
 

except Take A Pebble Wink

Are you kidding? I love take a pebble. Tank would be a much better argument to prove there was anything "bad" on it and I even like that one.
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I'm afraid that this could only be a contest if you omitted ItCotCK.
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Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

King Crimson! Other favorites are Camel, Gentle Giant, Moody Blues and Jade Warrior
This. I would also add This Was to other favorites, a great blues based album, with some great guitar playing by Mick Abrahams.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Wasn't The Moody Blues debut "The Magnificent Moodies?"  
 
Yes, I mentioned that "Days of Future Passed" wasn't the Moody Blues first album in the introduction to my poll. Smile
 
I didn't include "The Magnificent Moodies" in the poll for the same reason that The Dark Elf very eloquently stated earlier. The Moody Blues were a totally different band with a new sound and a new line-up in 1967 and a far cry from their 1965 roots as a Birmingham beat band. Smile
  My apologies, I just delved into the poll, I tend to not pay attention to the intros of polls.  I will respectfully agree to disagree, however, as there were members of the first band who continued on, despite it not being the classic lineup.  And yes, it wasn't yet progressive.  

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I'm afraid that this could only be a contest if you omitted ItCotCK.
 
Yes, I had a feeling King Crimson were going to win this poll by a wide margin - and deservedly so - and that turned out to be the case, although I don't think it would have gone down too well if I'd deliberately omitted King Crimson from the poll on the grounds that their debut album is just too good and it's no contest. Smile


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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Wasn't The Moody Blues debut "The Magnificent Moodies?"  
 
Yes, I mentioned that "Days of Future Passed" wasn't the Moody Blues first album in the introduction to my poll. Smile
 
I didn't include "The Magnificent Moodies" in the poll for the same reason that The Dark Elf very eloquently stated earlier. The Moody Blues were a totally different band with a new sound and a new line-up in 1967 and a far cry from their 1965 roots as a Birmingham beat band. Smile
  My apologies, I just delved into the poll, I tend to not pay attention to the intros of polls.  I will respectfully agree to disagree, however, as there were members of the first band who continued on, despite it not being the classic lineup.  And yes, it wasn't yet progressive.  

That's okay. I doubt if anyone would have voted for "The Magnificent Moodies" album anyway if I had included it in the poll. Smile
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I havenīt ever been very keen to discuss whatīs prog and whatīs not, but anyway, if we go to that very puritan thinking (whatīs here quite common) whatīs prog, there are not many fullblood prog albums on this list. I think only Alan Parsons, Camel, Curved Air, ELP, Enid, GG, Hatfield, Jade Warrior, KC, Renaissance & Yes -albums can be said prog albums. Spooky Tooth & Wishbone Ash are not even put prog category as bands in progarchives.

One thatīs really missing from these brit prog polls is folk prog: Comus debut really should have been here.
I already posted a Prog-Folk poll late last year. Wink Jethro Tull won the poll by a wide margin.
 
I also posted a second Prog-Folk poll which didn't include Jethro Tull. Smile
Ok, Iīll look them...
Pentangle won my second Prog-Folk poll with seven votes, but I'm sorry to say Comus didn't receive any votes at all. Confused
Quite strange, I think I am not only Comus-fan here...Like quite much Pentangle too, but Comus is absolutely great!
I like Comus too. I gave their classic "First Utterance" album four stars in a recent review. Smile
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King Crimson.  Pink Floyd comes next.  I agree that Comus would have been a definite consideration for the best and definitely comes close.

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As mentioned KC is hard to beat  ..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2020 at 14:43
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I havenīt ever been very keen to discuss whatīs prog and whatīs not, but anyway, if we go to that very puritan thinking (whatīs here quite common) whatīs prog, there are not many fullblood prog albums on this list. I think only Alan Parsons, Camel, Curved Air, ELP, Enid, GG, Hatfield, Jade Warrior, KC, Renaissance & Yes -albums can be said prog albums. Spooky Tooth & Wishbone Ash are not even put prog category as bands in progarchives.

One thatīs really missing from these brit prog polls is folk prog: Comus debut really should have been here.
I already posted a Prog-Folk poll late last year. Wink Jethro Tull won the poll by a wide margin.
 
I also posted a second Prog-Folk poll which didn't include Jethro Tull. Smile
Ok, Iīll look them...
Pentangle won my second Prog-Folk poll with seven votes, but I'm sorry to say Comus didn't receive any votes at all. Confused
Quite strange, I think I am not only Comus-fan here...Like quite much Pentangle too, but Comus is absolutely great!
I like Comus too. I gave their classic "First Utterance" album four stars in a recent review. Smile
If I made a review it would be absolutely five stars! Itīs masterpiece!
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Jade Warrior
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

First ELP album for me. Not a bad track on it and no song with two good minutes then ten minutes of noodling. Wink
 

except Take A Pebble Wink

Are you kidding? I love take a pebble. Tank would be a much better argument to prove there was anything "bad" on it and I even like that one.
 

I do like Take a Pebble and obviously I was being a bit tongue in cheek although for me it slows the album down too much after a strong start. I love The Barbarian and Lucky Man but as you suggest , Tank does meander a bit. I would also add that I'm not a fan of the 3rd part of Three Fates although the first two bits are great. 
To my ears there is a heck of a lot of 'noodling' here (although musically this a completely meaningless term)  but perception can be a funny thing. BSS is by a long way my favourite ELP album and many see that as a lot of 'noodling' ( I presume to mean aimless passages designed just to show off instrumental virtuosity)  


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the spooky horror theme wins itcfor me on Gentle Giants debute, so chilling, so good!
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DOFP. No others even need apply. Although ELP and KC deserve mention.
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