Best British Album Debut
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Topic: Best British Album Debut
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Best British Album Debut
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 02:32
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This is a poll for classic British prog album debuts from the late-1960's and 70's era. I'm guessing King Crimson will win this poll although my vote goes to the Moody Blues.  By the way, I know the Moody Blues "Days of Future Passed" isn't officially their debut album, but it is their first prog album with the classic line-up.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 02:37
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I do not care for a few albums in there... Voted for Yes thinking few others will and then I saw Camel, their debut is one of my favorites. Oh well...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 02:56
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First albums are almost always close but not quite there yet. From this list I'd have to say either ELP or Family. The real answer - - https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjarYeTupnnAhVKrZ4KHY4nA4EQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.in%2FLed-Zepellin-I-Deluxe-CD%2Fdp%2FB00IXHBL7I&psig=AOvVaw06-xUxEjf9RBiz9g4vudy3&ust=1579859692509076" rel="nofollow">  ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 03:01
I'm saving Led Zeppelin for my Best of British Hard Rock Album Debuts poll.
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Atavachron wrote:Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 03:04
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I've not heard them all, but of those I know, ELP is my favourite debut, closely followed by The Enid, Moody Blues and KC fairly equally. I think the Moody Blues had an album out before DOFP though. DOFP is their debut album, in the same way that Trespass is the Genesis debut. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 03:10
I was conveniently ignoring the fact that "Days of Future Passed" isn't the Moody Blues debut album just so I could vote for it. I know they released an album titled "The Magnificent Moodies" back in 1965, but "Days of Future Passed" was the first proggy album with the classic line-up.
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 03:15
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King Crimson! Other favorites are Camel, Gentle Giant, Moody Blues and Jade Warrior ------------- I'm guitarist and songwriter for the prog-related band Mother Bass. Find us at http://www.motherbass.com. I also enter stages throughout the Netherlands performing my poetry. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 04:13
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Tough poll. Lots of great albums in here but I ended up voting for an old favourite of mine in Mr. Fantasy. Caravan is close though. ------------- The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 04:22
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Comes down to Floyd or KC for me. Probably KC but Piper was an amazing record which they spent years in the shadow of. Actually the same thing goes for 'Court', come to think of it - arguably more so. ------------- Believe me Pope Paul, my toes are clean |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 04:41
I almost forget to include Traffic in the poll, so it's a good thing I remembered to include them at the last minute.
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 05:16
| KC or Gentle Giant for me. GG gives me more enjoyment though now - so that's my vote. |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 06:10
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I didn't even have to look at the list -- it's Crimson baby. Nothing like that had ever been heard before. After KC, ELP's debut is also topnotch. Others I rank as excellent from this list are Camel, Caravan, Gentle Giant, Jade Warrior, Moody Blues and National Health. They're all good though. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 06:18
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Crimson easily. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 06:21
Never forget about traffic! That can be awefully dangerous  Hmmm..I guess I missed Piper from the list. Also a possible pick but these last couple of years Ive been spinning those early Traffic albums far more frequently. So many great songs and I genuinely dig the way these guys interconnect. Its sloppy and extremely tight all at the same time, and then there is this incredibly warm and natural timbre to the instruments that adds this beautifully natural expression to the music. Yum. ------------- The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 06:24
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KC, PF, and ELP nailed it straight from the start, and the Camel album is also fine. Still I'm voting National Health, which is not as "important" maybe, but a total joy from beginning to end. |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 06:30
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ELP for me KC and Alan Parsons debuts are also awesome ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 06:51
| If I was honest, it would be Piper. But because Music In a Dollīs House has been one of the greatest albums Iīve heard in 2010-decade, I vote it! |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 06:54
| But honestly Moody Blues debut is Magnificent Moodies. |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 07:03
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Did you read Paul's post with the poll? You're about the third or fourth to raise an issue addressed initially. C'mon people. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 07:45
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King Crimson > ELP > Camel But those three tower over the other options IMHO.
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 08:08
yeah there is just no comparison IMO as well.
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 08:16
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National Health's debut has my personal preference, although ELP's debut is certainly excellent as well and KC's and Hatfield's first albums are also up there for me. |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 09:16
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Gentle Giant +1 Pink Floyd King Crimson ------------- 
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 10:44
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KC, followed closely by Camel. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 11:39
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Had to choose Hatfield. I feel their albums are sorely underrated. ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 11:52
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It's good to see National Health have already picked up three votes. They were a last minute inclusion in the poll after I reviewed their first album earlier this week.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 12:33
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The birth of a realization, the rise of a high expectation, emerging successful, defiant, together the parts make a Giant. ------------- |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 14:09
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hatfield ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 15:54
Sorry for the nitpick but that's cheating a bit. By that logic, From Genesis To Revelation also shouldn't be on the list because it's in a style that's not prog and which the band never pursued again afterwards. Or what about Renaissance's debut, which didn't involve a single person from the band's "classic" line-up?
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 16:08
Yes, it is cheating a bit, admittedly, but the difference is that Genesis had virtually the same line-up for the first and second album - apart from the drummer - and I really like Genesis' first album too - and it was also quite proggy, unlike The Magnificent Moodies album, which wasn't proggy at all.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 16:09
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Where's Shocking Blue? -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 16:14
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I suggested Shocking Blue for inclusion in Prog-Archives recently in the Proto-Prog category, but they were rejected because they weren't considered proggy enough.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 17:16
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^ i'm giving you a hard time, dude!  i'm haunting you with your own suggestion Just kidding of course. I can see why you thought they might fit in especially on the second album with some indo-raga influences. Great pop band for sure. Def not prog. Of course on this list i have to vote for KC. There would be no prog revolution without them and it is one of the best albums ever recorded. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 17:20
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First ELP album for me. Not a bad track on it and no song with two good minutes then ten minutes of noodling.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 18:30
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Wasn't The Moody Blues debut "The Magnificent Moodies?" ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 18:53
Yes it was. Many people erroneously believe(and consider) DoFP to be their first. I feel that if that's the case then we could consider Trespass the first Genesis and TYA the first Yes. I voted for ELP anyway. :P As great as DoFP is(imo)it isn't, like you pointed out, their first album. It's kind of funny you mentioned them too because I was just looking up information on them about ten seconds before reading this having listened to one of their live albums(a later one)in my car earlier today.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 19:01
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Thanks, a lot of people don't remember "Go Now." That being said, I haven't quite made up my mind on the best one of these. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 19:12
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I'm voting for ITCOTCK because it is so stunning, and was so different. After that, would be ELP for me, although, as stated, I love so much of the music here. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 20:04
They were Dutch.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 20:06
To be honest, the Moody Blues as configured prior to Days of Future Passed featured Denny Laine as the lead singer and Clint Warwick as the bassist. It was Merseybeat in musical delivery and 8 of the 12 songs on The Magnificent Moodies were written by other artists. Their output was primarily singles and lasted through 1964-66. When Laine and Warwick exited and Justin Hayward and John Lodge took their places, there was a profound and tidal shift in the music. DoFP and every album thereafter was composed and written by the band members (Hayward, Lodge, Thomas and Pinder, for the most part, with occasional poetic interludes supplied by Graeme Edge). Pinder picked up a mellotron in early 1967, and the band consciously abandoned their Merseybeat/R&B leanings. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 20:29
| ^That's true but it doesn't change anything. A lot of bands from the original British invasion changed their sound within a few years including the Beatles and Stones who also did covers in their early days. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 20:50
Whatever, dude. With the Beatles and the Stones, it was a gradual evolution from album to album, year to year, over several releases. There is a radical difference between The Magnificent Moodies and DoFP, and a 40% change in bandmembers (or 2/5ths, if you prefer). Completely different genre of rock, completely different compositional style, even an influx of different instrumentation. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 21:26
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They just spanned the time periods. As did The Beatles and The Stones, and in the US Love, for instance. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 21:35
Oh no! Not a very different lineup change! A different sound too! Oh, the horrors. Regardless, none of that means that DoFP should be considered their first album(or debut) no matter how you want to slice it.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 21:53
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Tought poll, I gave ELP some love! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 22:03
Same here. It's their best imo(no filler "cowboy songs").
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 23:19
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Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 23:45
| Ummm Paul, you forgot to include Khan? |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 23:50
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Definitely KC! ------------- Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 23 2020 at 23:54
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ELP ------------- 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 00:31
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 00:37
Yes, I mentioned that "Days of Future Passed" wasn't the Moody Blues first album in the introduction to my poll. I didn't include "The Magnificent Moodies" in the poll for the same reason that The Dark Elf very eloquently stated earlier. The Moody Blues were a totally different band with a new sound and a new line-up in 1967 and a far cry from their 1965 roots as a Birmingham beat band.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 00:44
except Take A Pebble
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 00:46
I thought of Khan but I ran out of room to include them, having already used up all 25 poll options.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 00:50
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As ELP aren't going to win the poll so I voted for Procol Harum forgetting that it was their 1968 album that I was thinking of lol. Although not on the list, The Nice - The Thoughts Of Emerlist Davjack was an important album. There were many bands of the time (Yes , Genesis and Deep Purple to name but 3) who took note of this band . The debut with Davy O'List is the best . There are a couple of powerhouse instrumental tracks Rondo and War and Peace that put the organ right at the front of the music. Of course it was the mighty Keith Emerson starting to flex his muscles big time!
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:20
The main difference is that Genesis and Renaissance were both prog bands right from the beginning, but the Moody Blues were a Birmingham beat band back in 1965 and not the slightest bit proggy, and besides, I doubt if anyone would have voted for "The Magnificent Moodies" 1965 album in a prog poll.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:33
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I'm going with the Hawks this time. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:41
Why? ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:45
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One thing that is notable about this list of albums is how many album names are the same as the name of the artist. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:50
| When I first saw this poll I thought this is easy King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King but there are a few good ones, it wasn't so easy I went with King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King just slightly ahead of ELP |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 01:54
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I havenīt ever been very keen to discuss whatīs prog and whatīs not, but anyway, if we go to that very puritan thinking (whatīs here quite common) whatīs prog, there are not many fullblood prog albums on this list. I think only Alan Parsons, Camel, Curved Air, ELP, Enid, GG, Hatfield, Jade Warrior, KC, Renaissance & Yes -albums can be said prog albums. Spooky Tooth & Wishbone Ash are not even put prog category as bands in progarchives.
One thatīs really missing from these brit prog polls is folk prog: Comus debut really should have been here.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 02:06
------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 02:23
I already posted a Prog-Folk poll late last year. Jethro Tull won the poll by a wide margin.I also posted a second Prog-Folk poll which didn't include Jethro Tull.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 02:38
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 02:51
Pentangle won my second Prog-Folk poll with seven votes, but I'm sorry to say Comus didn't receive any votes at all.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 04:35
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 07:27
Are you kidding? I love take a pebble. Tank would be a much better argument to prove there was anything "bad" on it and I even like that one.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 07:30
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I'm afraid that this could only be a contest if you omitted ItCotCK. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 08:11
This. I would also add This Was to other favorites, a great blues based album, with some great guitar playing by Mick Abrahams.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 08:48
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 09:06
Yes, I had a feeling King Crimson were going to win this poll by a wide margin - and deservedly so - and that turned out to be the case, although I don't think it would have gone down too well if I'd deliberately omitted King Crimson from the poll on the grounds that their debut album is just too good and it's no contest.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 09:08
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 09:10
I like Comus too. I gave their classic "First Utterance" album four stars in a recent review.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 09:53
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King Crimson. Pink Floyd comes next. I agree that Comus would have been a definite consideration for the best and definitely comes close. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 14:42
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As mentioned KC is hard to beat .. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 14:43
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: January 24 2020 at 19:05
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Jade Warrior ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 25 2020 at 02:14
I do like Take a Pebble and obviously I was being a bit tongue in cheek although for me it slows the album down too much after a strong start. I love The Barbarian and Lucky Man but as you suggest , Tank does meander a bit. I would also add that I'm not a fan of the 3rd part of Three Fates although the first two bits are great. To my ears there is a heck of a lot of 'noodling' here (although musically this a completely meaningless term) but perception can be a funny thing. BSS is by a long way my favourite ELP album and many see that as a lot of 'noodling' ( I presume to mean aimless passages designed just to show off instrumental virtuosity)
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 25 2020 at 02:23
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the spooky horror theme wins itcfor me on Gentle Giants debute, so chilling, so good! -------------  
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: January 25 2020 at 08:32
| DOFP. No others even need apply. Although ELP and KC deserve mention. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 25 2020 at 17:23
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In my personal ranking, 1) King Crimson 2) Family but... I've voted for Family ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 01:25
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No contest:  ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 01:37
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It's good to see the Crimson King has won this poll by a wide margin - as expected - even though I didn't vote for it.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 04:17
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In the Caravan Of The Crimson King |
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 10:34
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Yeah, ok, ITCOTKC, even though its not the best KC album ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 18 2020 at 10:36
In the Court of the Crimson King has always been my favourite KC album by a long way. It's also the only King Crimson album I've actually gone out and bought, although In the Wake of Poseidon's a pretty good follow-up album, so I occasionally listen to 2 too.
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: August 18 2020 at 17:32
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National Health > ELP > Hatfield > KC > Caravan > Yes ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: Lieutenant_Lan
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 09:27
| of course its king crimson |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 10:23
The Crimson King reigns supreme, but who knew there was a Crimson Queen too.  2008: Toyah - In the Court of the Crimson Queen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k2ZD-QUpBvTpXu1k16J6Cevs3yHSKX86M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k2ZD-QUpBvTpXu1k16J6Cevs3yHSKX86M |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 10:43
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Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King Pink Floyd - The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn
Curved Air - Air Conditioning |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 11:20
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 11:44
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Can't bear to see that fab Camel album with only one vote, so... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 12:02
Take a Pebble is the only ELP-song i genuinely love:) Loads of brilliant albums here. It was difficult to remove enough titles to make a top ten of sorts: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (1969) National Health - National Health (1978) Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant (1970) Hatfield & the North - Hatfield & the North (1974) Family - Music in a Doll's House (1968) Curved Air - Air Conditioning (1970) Camel - Camel (1973) Renaissance - Renaissance (1969) Caravan - Caravan (1968) Disqualified from competition: The Moody Blues' second album
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 12:20
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1. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed 2. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King 3. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer 4. The Enid - In the Region of the Summer Stars 5. Procol Harum - Procol Harum 6. Camel - Camel 7. Renaissance - Renaissance |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 13:18
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When talking about Prog albums: ELP > ItCotCK > Renaissance Other fond-ofs: The Piper, Days of Future ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 17:19
| ELP |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: September 05 2024 at 18:00
| KC |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: September 06 2024 at 05:28
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Voted for Air Conditioning. ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 06 2024 at 08:13
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 06 2024 at 08:47
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^^ Can't imagine anyone else on PA choosing that one Cristi, but it's a really good choice.. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |