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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 08:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 14:44
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

can I judge you for having a cat in your avatar?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 15:49
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

can I judge you for having a cat in your avatar?
It would be a favourable judgement Tongue


yes, you can
ans it's not a cat, it's my cat, or better said I'm her human. LOL Or something... 

haha..  I do and it is a very favorable one. Cats rule.. dogs and people are made for each.. to be ruled haha.

and let me take a private compliment and reiterate it..   I never knew you were a non native as it were till you told me.  f**k man.. I think your English is better than mine LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 16:10
Alrighty Paul, I'm one of Crossover Team members (and one of Related Team ones) so shall I take her to Team for eval?

Anyway, would you please let me know her "most progressive" album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 18:00
Annie Haslam's most progressive album in my opinion was her first album "Annie in Wonderland" (1977). There's a sample from the album  in this thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 18:09
Annie Haslam for cross-over porn? Sure! Where are the videos?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 18:20
oh dear God....I'd pay good money... really good money.. for a video of her giving herself a foot rub...  even better.. while singing.. 

porn? For losers.. but that is some porn even the Big Mick can dig...

what a woman.. and her feet..  awe inspiring...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 18:25
Where did crossover porn come into it? Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 20:45
Under eval here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 01:20
Originally posted by DamoXt7942 DamoXt7942 wrote:

Under eval here.
 
Thanks. Here's another sample song from Annie Haslam's first album.....
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 02:21
I think she was rejected around 2009. I remember because it was my suggestion. Personally I don't think I'd suggest her again today. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 04:20
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Annie Haslam could be considered for inclusion as either Prog-Related, Crossover Prog or Symphonic Prog. I'll leave that for the relevant PA team members to decide between them. I don't want to get into a pointless argument about which category of prog Annie Haslam belongs in. Smile
Annie Haslam's prog credentials are far stronger than those of Kate Bush or Tori Amos in my opinion.
 
Anyone who dismisses Annie Haslam as an "MOR Pop singer", as SteveG did earlier, clearly doesn't know much about music, so if anyone needs an education here, it's SteveG. Smile
To make you feel better Paul, I meant that Annie's solo albums taken purely in isolation, would paint her as an MOR artist. A fact that she readily agrees with and has stated so on many occasions and is quite proud of that fact. She was making solo albums in order to make a living and did not see prog as a way of getting there at the time. Please be aware that many members like myself personally know Annie as well other prog artists, even though we don't publicize the fact, and we know of what we speak and would not say anything that these artists would find to be contrary. What they say is what we relate to others, no more no less. You may not need an education in musical genres but you definitely need an education in how to relate with other adults that you disagree with. I found your responses to be quite childish and annoying. As usual.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 05:08
^^ I was just trying to defend Annie Haslam's honour as an esteemed artist in the Progressive Rock genre.
Annie's a "Woman Transcending" MOR Pop. Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 06:56
^ Well, that's a start but you would have to add Blessing In Disguise, Still Life and The Dawn Of Ananda to that list of MOR albums, with her s/t debut falling between MOR and AOR. That's all of her albums after Annie In Wonderland. And MOR is not a bad word in my book. Frank Sinatra is the most famous and successful MOR artist ever and I doubt, if he we're still alive, would have any problem being labeled as such as he's laughing all the way to the bank.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 07:22
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^ Well, that's a start but you would have to add Blessing In Disguise, Still Life and The Dawn Of Ananda to that list of MOR albums, with her s/t debut falling between MOR and AOR. That's all of her albums after Annie In Wonderland. And MOR is not a bad word in my book. Frank Sinatra is the most famous and successful MOR artist ever and I doubt, if he we're still alive, would have any problem being labeled as such as he's laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Annie Haslam's "Still Life" album is labelled as Symphonic Rock on Wikipedia, and it sounds like Symphonic Rock to me too, not MOR Pop. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 08:25
^ terms like symphonic rock, Krautrock or even jazz-rock exist but don't mean they are progressive. Those are important distinctions to understand before you suggest anything here. You should really read the definition of progressive rock nicely written out by the site's original pioneers. It will make it quite clear what prog is. Don't judge the site by some of the artists that slipped in and probably shouldn't be here. Tori Amos for example (as far as i know and i have several albums.) From the samples i've heard of Annie's solo work, it's basically like Renaissance only not progressive. It's some sort of classical / folk crossover over.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 08:40
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ terms like symphonic rock, Krautrock or even jazz-rock exist but don't mean they are progressive. Those are important distinctions to understand before you suggest anything here. You should really read the definition of progressive rock nicely written out by the site's original pioneers. It will make it quite clear what prog is. Don't judge the site by some of the artists that slipped in and probably shouldn't be here. Tori Amos for example (as far as i know and i have several albums.) From the samples i've heard of Annie's solo work, it's basically like Renaissance only not progressive. It's some sort of classical / folk crossover over.
And that's the key: It's not progressive. What I'll do later on is post youtube songs of at least two songs from every album after Annie In Wonderland to demonstrate that none of it is prog and we can finally put this horse sh*t to bed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 08:55
^ well, it's clear that Paul doesn't grasp the criteria of what constitutes prog for a site like this. It would save everybody a bunch of time if this was clearly understood otherwise, sorry man, you're suggestions are just gonna get shot down time and time again Wink

Read this until you can repeat it word for word in yer sleep LOL
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 09:28
By the way:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:
"If it is a classic band, or artist.. you can bet your ass they are here if they merit it.. and if not.. they were rejected. We once had scores of people dedicated to additions.. filling out the database and there are not many we missed."

Hehe - I think totally differently, but time will show how many more pearls are left Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2019 at 09:35
Annie Haslam is being evaluated for possible inclusion in ProgArchives right now, so it's not over until the Symphonic Rock Lady Sings. Smile
 


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