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Topic: Annie Haslam for Crossover Prog? Posted: November 08 2019 at 12:11
I noticed that Annie Haslam of Renaissance doesn't have a separate entry in ProgArchives, even though she's had a long and illustrious solo career. Is there any chance of her being included?
Edited by Psychedelic Paul - November 11 2019 at 02:42
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Posted: November 08 2019 at 12:15
why should she be here? Just because she is in Renaissance? What genre? Give us some links to prove she does some sort of progressive rock (I for one have not heard her solo stuff).
I was surprised when I discovered she wasn't already included in ProgArchives. I suppose if Annie was to be included then she'd be listed as either Prog-Related, Crossover Prog or Symphonic Prog. A couple of her albums are classical Symphonic Rock and some are regular Pop/Rock. Here's a solo Annie Haslam concert from Philadelphia (where she now lives) back in 1997.
I included Annie's concert from Philadelphia to show that her roots lie in Progressive Rock. Her first solo album "Annie in Wonderland" was quite progressive too.
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Posted: November 09 2019 at 07:18
I'm afraid you're singing to the choir Paul. If I posted all the MOR songs from Blessing In Disguise, Dawn Of Ananda, Woman Transcending and the covers of Nature Boy and Going Home from Annie In Wonderland, those songs would paint Annie as quite the MOR artist.
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Posted: November 09 2019 at 07:27
I guess she's a similar case as Sandy Denny - much loved indeed (and not only for her work with Strawbs, FC, Fotheringay) but not sufficiently under our scope.
I guess she's a similar case as Sandy Denny - much loved indeed (and not only for her work with Strawbs, FC, Fotheringay) but not sufficiently under our scope.
I've been criticised for not adding any artists to Prog Archives - even though I'd barely been here one month at the time - but every artist I've suggested for inclusion so far has been rejected.
To be honest, I can't see how Annie Haslam could possibly NOT be included in ProgArchives. To call a versatile classically-trained singer such as Annie Haslam an MOR artist, or middle-of-the-road Pop artist, is a bit of an insult to her.
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Posted: November 09 2019 at 12:49
I think there is somewhere guidelines as to what could be considered as prog for the site, when not already here...and I think I remember that new artists were exempt from some of the qualifiers of existing bands/artists? Not sure if those are still being followed, either.....Maybe one of the kind admins can provide a link here.
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Posted: November 09 2019 at 15:00
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Quinino wrote:
I guess she's a similar case as Sandy Denny - much loved indeed (and not only for her work with Strawbs, FC, Fotheringay) but not sufficiently under our scope.
I've been criticised for not adding any artists to Prog Archives - even though I'd barely been here one month at the time - but every artist I've suggested for inclusion so far has been rejected.
To be honest, I can't see how Annie Haslam could possibly NOT be included in ProgArchives. To call a versatile classically-trained singer such as Annie Haslam an MOR artist, or middle-of-the-road Pop artist, is a bit of an insult to her.
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Posted: November 10 2019 at 06:56
I doubt even Annie would consider her solo work to be prog. The reason she decided to return to Renaissance was precisely to make prog again with Michael Dunford, to get back to their "roots". There is plenty of great music that isn't prog so I don'[t see how it's insulting to reject an artist on prog archives.
I doubt even Annie would consider her solo work to be prog. The reason she decided to return to Renaissance was precisely to make prog again with Michael Dunford, to get back to their "roots". There is plenty of great music that isn't prog so I don'[t see how it's insulting to reject an artist on prog archives.
I'm not saying Annie Haslam would find it insulting to be rejected from ProgArchives, but I think she WOULD find it insulting to be referred to as a MOR artist or Middle of the Road Pop artist in an earlier post.
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Posted: November 10 2019 at 08:11
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Quinino wrote:
I guess she's a similar case as Sandy Denny - much loved indeed (and not only for her work with Strawbs, FC, Fotheringay) but not sufficiently under our scope.
I've been criticised for not adding any artists to Prog Archives - even though I'd barely been here one month at the time - but every artist I've suggested for inclusion so far has been rejected.
To be honest, I can't see how Annie Haslam could possibly NOT be included in ProgArchives. To call a versatile classically-trained singer such as Annie Haslam an MOR artist, or middle-of-the-road Pop artist, is a bit of an insult to her.
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hahahha.. that is worth a toastie.. no wonder we get along so well.
anyhow.. Paul... let me offer some advice. If it is a classic band, or artist.. you can bet your ass they are here if they merit it.. and if not.. they were rejected. We once had scores of people dedicated to additions.. filling out the database and there are not many we missed.
new additions these days are primarily the new bands.. we've picked over the oldies pretty damn well man.
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Maybe I'll just give up making suggestions for PA artist additions altogether and make it easier for everyone here, bearing in mind every suggestion I've offered so far has been rejected.
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Posted: November 10 2019 at 10:38
micky wrote:
anyhow.. Paul... let me offer some advice. If it is a classic band, or artist.. you can bet your ass they are here if they merit it.. and if not.. they were rejected. We once had scores of people dedicated to additions.. filling out the database and there are not many we missed.
new additions these days are primarily the new bands.. we've picked over the oldies pretty damn well man.
Thank you for clarifying that.
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