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Poll Question: Which do you like best?
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    Posted: October 12 2019 at 15:18
I've been listening to some ELP again lately. It's just one of those timeless bands that I keep coming back to from time to time. So.. those classic first four studio albums. Which do you prefer?
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Brain Salad Surgery.
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I find it difficult to choose between Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery. But I'll give my vote to Tarkus.
 
 
 
 
 
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Yay, I get to cast the first vote for the debut. :)
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Definitely BSS for me. The band did things on that record that no-one else has come close to since.
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The debut is a fine record indeed !
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Definitely the first ELP album for me.
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Yeah the debut is actually the one I've been listening to, for whatever reason.. Oh I know, because it's just good. I definitely tend to think of Brain Salad Surgery as their 'Magnum Opus' though. All four are great. Obviously Trilogy is my avi. And Tarkus, well it speaks for itself I think(certainly the monster side long title track does).
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Trilogy for me...
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It's usually a toss up between the debut and Trilogy for me, but I voted for the debut this time.  Love 'The Three Fates'. 


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As good as the debut is, it suffers from appeasing the egos of its creators e.g. Carl's tedious drum solo on Tank, Greg's rudimentary guitar 'solo' on Take a Pebble and Keith's largely solo vehicle the Three Fates
(I also think Lucky Man is at best, Lake juvenalia). 7 years later we come full circle to Works Volume One  where these same flaws manifest themselves as each member getting a solo side of a double album.
ELP's best 'team effort' has gotta be Brain Salad Surgery for me
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Brain Salad Surgery.
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Tarkus, The Debut and Trilogy. Brain Salad Surgery is a little behind.
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Originally posted by Progfan1958 Progfan1958 wrote:

Definitely BSS for me. The band did things on that record that no-one else has come close to since.

Examples?
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For me, it is the debut, coupled with having seen them perform in support of it on their first US tour.  But I have really vivid memories of many a road trip beginning with "Tarkus," and loved all of these....also Pictures At An Exhibition.
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

For me, it is the debut, coupled with having seen them perform in support of it on their first US tour.  But I have really vivid memories of many a road trip beginning with "Tarkus," and loved all of these....also Pictures At An Exhibition.


I'm not old enough to remember, but I've heard that when they were touring to support Tarkus they were just about the biggest band around.
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

For me, it is the debut, coupled with having seen them perform in support of it on their first US tour.  But I have really vivid memories of many a road trip beginning with "Tarkus," and loved all of these....also Pictures At An Exhibition.


I'm not old enough to remember, but I've heard that when they were touring to support Tarkus they were just about the biggest band around.

Probably true, I saw every tour up through Brain Salad Surgery.
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

For me, it is the debut, coupled with having seen them perform in support of it on their first US tour.  But I have really vivid memories of many a road trip beginning with "Tarkus," and loved all of these....also Pictures At An Exhibition.


I'm not old enough to remember, but I've heard that when they were touring to support Tarkus they were just about the biggest band around.

They were a major band but the biggest? Not sure but I doubt it. I can name several bands bigger. Apparently they were ranked third or fourth as far as concert attendances go in the 70's behind the Rolling Sones and Led Zeppelin but even that seems a bit suspect to me. Also, if you look at album sales none of their albums have gone platinum(ever). All up to and including love beach have gone gold though and maybe at one point that was a big deal but I think several 70's bands(including Yes) beat them in the sales category if not concert attendances.

I do want to address their reputation though. It is undeniable that they were at one point one of the biggest prog rock bands and at a time when Genesis were still a cult band barely known in the US except for those digging through import record bins. They were big and were respected. THese days they are almost laughed at and even prog fans will say they are an embarrassment towards the genre which I think is unfair. These days they should be mentioned alongside Yes, King Crimson, Genesis and Pink Floyd but in my opinion they aren't. I won't say they are forgotten but their reputation doesn't seem to be nearly as great as what it used to be(even in prog circles).


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Always thoughtful posts, Mike.  Things in hindsight are different.  There was a big backlash against all of the prog bands at the time, with disco and then punk/new wave.  I remember an old saying, "How do you spell pretentious?  ELP."  Personally, I loved the band.  All phenomenal players and Keith Emerson was a fantastic showman as well.  I remember all of the other bands and enjoyed them, too (such as GG, Yes, Genesis, JT, Procol Harum)....and also saw most of the other bigger draws, like the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin then, too.  It was a really great time for all kinds of music.
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I have Andy Powell's(of Wishbone Ash) book 'Eyes Wide Open' and he talks about a tour they did with Genesis, Focus, Argent, and ELP. And he describes the headliners for that tour ELP as being, quote, "the overall band of the moment." He goes on to say, "They had a dynamic show planned with a giant smoking Tarkus model."

I don't know, again I was super young then so make of that what you will.


Edit: Oh, apparently it wasn't a whole tour but a one off show with those bands listed.


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