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Poll Question: Which of these do you feel may be a bit overrated?
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My normal knee-jerk reaction would be to vote for DSOTM although actually there isn't anything I hate on it. I used to dislike Great Gig In The Sky but not so much now having seen it performed live so many times.

So it's got to be Selling England By The Pound. Everything during the Gabriel era is overrated bar Foxtrot which for me is the only one that stands up to close scrutiny. I do genuinely dislike (maybe even hate) Battle Of Epping Forest. Stupid voices and not enough musical content. Admittedly there is the holy trinity of Knight, Fifth and Show and I can't touch those. yes 5 star masterpieces they are. Aisle Of Plenty is just an addon to Cinema Show but is beautiful so okay fine for that. More Fool Me I actually like but it just doesn't fit. I Know What I Like is okay but hardly an amazing track. After The Ordeal is very nice and fits perfectly. So it mainly comes down to 3 tracks that rule this out as being one of the greatest masterpieces even if much of it is sublime. 
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5. DTSOM.
4. Thick As A Brick
3. Selling England By The Pound
2. ITCOTCK
1. CTTE

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^^^ So you think Close to the Edge is overrated??
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Foxtrot, Lamb Lies Down and Dark Side for me although I still like all three of them.

Foxtrot and the Lamb are not on here and that's funny because I heard both back to back last night😂😂😂
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They're all rated highly for good reasons.
SEbtP has some stellar material but is too uneven, so it is my first choice for "overrated". CttE has a somewhat high showing off factor, so rank 2 in this competition. The second side of TAAB is significantly worse than the first (despite the whole album being great), so that's rank 3 then. Can't really decide between DSOTM and the Crimson King, I don't love 100% of them (I'd probably go for TAAB as my personal favourite out of these) but I highly respect even the material that on a personal level I don't love that much.  
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Originally posted by Prog Sothoth Prog Sothoth wrote:

If anything, Benefit is underrated. I love that damn album!
I don't think any of these are overrated... they're classics for a reason. My least favorite of the lot is the Genesis one. I only like two songs from it, but yeah, they're both really killer songs.

Totally agree....Benefit is killer imho.....I keep coming back to that lp over all of the other Tull lp's.

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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

^^^ So you think Close to the Edge is overrated??

Nope other way around. Was on mobile and couldn't get the numbers to reverse, lol. Overrated to least-overrated is my list. I despise Dark Side of The Moon with a passion. I use copies as coasters for my coffee.


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It's quite easy, to me.

Close to the Edge wouldn't be overrated even if it had 4.90 average on Progarchives (absurd number); it should get all the praise in the world.

Although quite different - less calculated, but more spontaneous, invigorating, in-your-face positive - Thick as a Brick is a bona fide 5 star album as well and I'd be irked if it ever falls out of TOP5.

There were days I would poke my eye out to defend Selling England by the Pound as the greatest Genesis LP. Stellar 1-3 tracks and almost as good of a run between "Ordeal" and "Aisle" (6-8) did a great job of hiding cracks in the armor. In fact, I was so enthusiastic about majority of the album that I barely cared for "More Fool Me" poppiness. "The Battle of Epping Forest" has its moments, but I feel some melodic qualities were sacrificed for the story. When I hear this bit:

the battle of Epping Forest, yes the battle of Epping Forest right outside your door
you ain't seen nothing like it, no you ain't seen nothing like it, not since the civil war

I cringe a little.
So I think SEBTP should be granted universal acclaim and 5 star ratings in spades, BUT it falls a bit short of 'perfect' in my book. So there is a tiny "overrated factor" to it, but I don't mind at all.

Similar story with In the Court of the Crimson King. There was a time when "Epitaph" hit me like a Mack truck with each listen and "Moonchild" had no flaws. I was so into it - this twisted, dark fantasy/surrealistic world - that I managed to imagine a story to that overwrought musique concrete part. It was all about witch-queens of the swamps and holy mirrors, or whatever, but I liked it.
Nowadays I'm a bit more critical towards KC debut album, but damn - it was 1969 for God's sake, times when psychedelia seemed visionary just for the use of feedback, fuzzbox and backmasking... Nobody had done it better at the time! Most of ITCOTCK holds up very well today and truly is a box of wonders. It's a well deserved 5 star album... perhaps some folks out there "overrate" it a bit, but I couldn't care less.

And then we have The Dark Side of the Moon. It's always been a huge elephant in the room for me as I recognize it as an enjoyable, calm piece of music. Terrific production and soothing qualities are a given, but I don't see where this particular LP sounds like prog rock masterpiece. It's not only a matter of shape or form (no long suites, no complexities, no mellotron and quirky artworks). I think it deserves recognition for being "pretty", you can have dozens daydreaming session with Dark Side in the background, but it lacks life-changing melodies, spine-breaking dynamics or truly captivating emotional depth. I'm not going to face the infernos nor do I ascend Himalayan peaks to become celestial... I'm just okay, smiling on my couch and chilling.

TL;DR All in all, I don't see The Dark Side of the Moon as TOP10 album in prog rock realm, heck, it's not even the best in Pink Floyd's discography for me (Meddle, Wish You Were Here, Animals...). It's possible I'd give it 4 stars, if I were to review it. There goes my vote for the "most overrated".



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I'm glad to see that ItCotCK is the least overrated. It's the trendsetter that all the others follow in one way or another. And it's just a great album!
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Dark Side is where I lost most interest in PF, good music, but was just more commercial than I liked my Floyd.  
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I dont think it's all overrated, I love all mentioned albums and bands. 
But Dark Side isn't my favorite Floyd album. I rate higher Wish You Were Here and Animals . DSOTM is more radio-friendly mainstream rock than prog 


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Thick as a brick is a 4 star album, the rest are 5s
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