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Poll Question: Which of these do you feel may be a bit overrated?
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I am repeating myself, but Thick really doesn´t drag me at all, not although I heard it first time already in the eighties, still always when I listened it, it´s full pleasure to me from the beginning to end. Ian´s egotrip or not, it´s anyway masterpiece and the best Tull-album, there is nothing bland as there is in that Yes-albums first side of the same year. To me it seems somebodies who says opinions about it have listened it last time 1972, it really doesn´t repeat it themes, there are just lots great, sad melodic themes that many progbands (specially the most of new bands) should learn about.

I think I am not going to waste my time in this place a lot anymore that seems to become sh*tethrowing club of masterpieces.


Ian's ego trip, hard to think of a poorer argument. He was the better songwriter, had a vision of what the band should be, took total creative control and put the blues influences aside..nothing new under the sun. But it looks like some folks has not digested it yet...after 48 years!!
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Yes.....he discarded the 'blues influences'...which is why he did 2 'prog albums' with side long tracks and then returned to  'blues influenced rock'  for the next 40 years...eventually rewriting the same songs from those blues rock albums but not as well.


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If anything, Benefit is underrated. I love that damn album!
I don't think any of these are overrated... they're classics for a reason. My least favorite of the lot is the Genesis one. I only like two songs from it, but yeah, they're both really killer songs.
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I already commented but commenting again and my opinion still stands. In the Court of the Crimson King is the most overrated prog album of all time in my opinion. Fight me
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I can't vote for any of those "overrated" album choices  because I love all five albums. Thumbs Up

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - October 07 2019 at 05:21
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None are really overrated IMO, and I don't really like that term.

My least personal fave is Thick as a Brick, I guess.

DSOTM is an obvious masterpiece. Nothing like that had ever been recorded. The same goes for ITCOTCK.

The track CTTE is a masterpiece in its own right, although there are better Yes albums overall.

I can see why SEBTP is so highly rated, but personally I think Foxtrot, The Lamb and Trick all better qualify as masterpieces. I'll be lynched for that, no doubt
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While it's undoubtedly a great album, Court is the easy choice for me as it's not as consistent as the others and not even my favorite Crimson.
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none of these are over rated ..... they are all fine examples of what Prog can and should be all about
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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

I already commented but commenting again and my opinion still stands. In the Court of the Crimson King is the most overrated prog album of all time in my opinion. Fight me
 
Won't fight you because I agree. The two tracks I like on the album are "21st Century Schizoid Man" and the title track. The other three songs are so mellow, repetitive, and overly long that I lose interest fast. I would rate it three stars at most.


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How can a masterpiece be overrated? That's an oxymoron. They are all 5 star classics. Sure we can get sick of certain albums due to overexposure but that doesn't mean it's overrated nor anything less than a masterpiece.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

How can a masterpiece be overrated? That's an oxymoron. They are all 5 star classics. Sure we can get sick of certain albums due to overexposure but that doesn't mean it's overrated nor anything less than a masterpiece.
 
Totally agree! Thumbs Up
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In most cases not my favorite album from the artist - but in any case brilliant albums.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

How can a masterpiece be overrated? That's an oxymoron.


my exact thought when I read the thread title. Big smileLOL
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None of these are overrated.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

I already commented but commenting again and my opinion still stands. In the Court of the Crimson King is the most overrated prog album of all time in my opinion. Fight me
 
Won't fight you because I agree. The two tracks I like on the album are "21st Century Schizoid Man" and the title track. The other three songs are so mellow, repetitive, and overly long that I lose interest fast. I would rate it three stars at most.

We have similar ears? Haha. I rate it 3 stars myself
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Originally posted by digdug digdug wrote:

none of these are over rated ..... they are all fine examples of what Prog can and should be all about

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My vote goes to Thick As A Brick which I actually find quite boring. But tbh. I am not a big fan of In The Court... either - not a bad album, but I tend to find it a bit one-dimensional on an emotional level. I am much more keen on later Crimson albums.

There is no way I would rate Dark Side as overrated. It is one of the most accomplised pieces of music in the 20th century.
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It's hard to overrate any of these. They are masterpieces in their own right.
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Foxtrot, Lamb Lies Down and Dark Side for me although I still like all three of them.
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Selling Ergot By The Penny. 20% of the album is such drivel (Battle of Epping) that I just took a nail to it so the record would skip. 
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