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jamesbaldwin 
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 Topic: How Our Top 25 Studio Albums Change Day After DayPosted: March 21 2019 at 13:54 |
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In this thread, which I hope lasts very long, I invite who is interested to write his ranking of the 25 best studio albums of all time.
1) Live albums or compilations or proto-prog or prog-related albums are not allowed.
We stick to the rules of the Top Studios Of All-Time of Progarchives. 2) I Invite who is interested to meditate on their ranking, and to write the first 25 titles, according to our tastes, that change day after day, listening after listening. If it's possible, I invite you to write the first 25 albums, but, if you prefer, even less or more. [editing] 3) This ranking is intended to compare the rankings of each of us and see how they change with time, since in the future perhaps some absolute masterpiece of the progressive rock will arrive (we hope!) and impose itsef in the top 25 of our ranking. Moreover, by expanding our listenings, we can add masterpieces from the past that we don't know at present or have not yet listened well. In fact, it's clear that everyone of us at the present have not yet listened well to some masterpiece, which could, with the time, enter the Top 25 in place of another. For example, I have not yet listened in a "scientific" way much of the Canterbury Scene (Soft Machine, Gong), of Pink Floyd, of Frank Zappa, of Henry Cow, of Rush, of Art Zoyd etc. I know most of the albums of these artists, and many others, but I have not yet evaluete them. I write reviews also in order to get to a "scientific" ranking. It could also happen that some of the first titles that we now put in our first ranking, over time, we like less, and leave the ranking in a month, or a year. Anything can happen, although, I believe, each of us will have some absolute certainties on various albums or artists. 4) Finally, I invite who wants to join this thread to discuss his choices, his changes in the rankings, and make observations about the choices of others. Let's make sure this thread is not just a list, but a stimulus to confrontation. Good Top 25! Edited by jamesbaldwin - March 22 2019 at 16:29 |
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Barbu
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Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:18 |
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Sorry but I'm way too lazy for this kind of stuff nowadays.
In fact, there's only two things in life that really interest me: 1. Titties 2. and Beer. |
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:47 |
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My personal ranking, 03/21/2019, Spring Is Here! Rating 9,75/10 1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 2) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt 3) The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill Rating 9,5/10 4) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 5) In The Court Of... - King Crimson 6) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill 7) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator Rating 9,25/10 8) Red - King Crimson 9) Music In A Doll's House - Family 10) Animals - Pink Floyd 11) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 12) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 13) Lorca - Tim Buckley 14) H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 15) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 16) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 17) Aqualung - Jethro Tull 18) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 19) Islands - King Crimson 20) Fearless - Family 21) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 22) For Your Pleasure - Roxy Music 23) Quatermass - Quatermass 24) Collage - Le Orme 25) Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:56 |
Yes, I understand, I like titties, beer and... prog!  I realize I expressed myself badly in English, and then I corrected the presentation message, which could be interpreted as a way to involve everyone in this thread. Now I wrote that I invite those interested, not all, to write his ranking - and, if you prefer, even less than 25 titles.
Edited by jamesbaldwin - March 21 2019 at 16:32 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: March 21 2019 at 19:00 |
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^ Do not pay attention mate...the closer the weekend, the sillier most of my posts become.
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Logan
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Posted: March 22 2019 at 00:46 |
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I can't do "best", but these are all five star out of five albums in my books. I would rather not rank them, but some of my favourites include (in no particular order -- I'm used to doing artist first):
Magma - Kobaia Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom Art Zoyd - Génération sans futur Zanov - Green Ray Igor Wakhevitch - Docteur Faust Franco Leprino - Integrati ... Disintegrati Comus - First Utterance Cos - Viva Boma Soft Machine - Third Jean-Claude Vannier - L'Enfant Assasin des Mouches Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer Dom - Edge of Time Herbie Hancock - Crossings Miles Davis - Big Fun Eddie Henderson - Realisation Julian Priester - Love, Love Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising Hellebore - Il y a des Jours Anna Sjalv - Tredje - Tussilago Fanfara Dun - Eros Area - Caution Radiation Area CLivage - Mixtus Orbis Eskaton - 4 Visions Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage Rahmann - Rahmann Vortex - Les Cycles de Thanatos Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts Picchio dal Pozzo - self-titled Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun Amon Duul II - Yeti Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri Lard Free - Unnamed Can - Soundtracks Gentle Giant - Acquiring the Taste Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You Embryo - Embryo's Rache I'll stop there. |
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Posted: March 22 2019 at 01:22 |
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1) Brain Salad Surgery - ELP 2) Close To The Edge - Yes 3) Red - King Crimson 4) Wish you Were Here - Pink Floyd 5) A Trick of the Tail - Genesis 6) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 7) 666 - Aphrodite's Child 8) PG1 - Peter Gabriel 9) Moving Pictures - Rush 10) Animals - Pink Floyd 11) Foxtrot - Genesis 12) The Power and The Glory - Gentle Giant 13) Ever - IQ 14) Danger Money - UK 15) Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull 16) Heaven and Hell - Vangelis 17) Time To Turn - Eloy 18) Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman 19) Weather Systems - Anathema 20) The Inconsolable Secret - Glass Hammer 21) UK - UK 22) Relayer - Yes 23) Force Majeure - Tangerine Dream 24) The Wake - IQ 25) Veni Vidi Vici - Par Lindh Project .. so predictably nearly all 70's ( that will never change) , 3 from the 80's , one from the 90's , 2 from the 00's and one from the current decade. I will never venture that far from symphonic prog but there it is. Also not much in the way of non UK artists and nothing at all in a foreign language. I am not adventurous at all but that is my personality.
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Posted: March 22 2019 at 03:16 |
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^Compared to Logan you may not come across as all that adventurous. I guess you are still more musically adventurous than about 99% of mankind, so still in the top 1 out of 100% which isn't too bad. Anyway, although I'm not really able to contribute I think the concept is interesting enough for me to check out if and how other members "best" will change.
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Posted: March 22 2019 at 12:36 |
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Sally Oldfield - Water Bearer
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile Alan Sorrenti - Aria Klaus Schulze - Timewind Anglagard - Hybris King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink Octobre - Les Nouvelles Terres Talking Heads - Remain in Light Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans Ange - Au-delà du Délire Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin Kate Bush - The Dreaming Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge Harmonium - Les Cinq Saisons David Sylvian - Approaching Silence Edited by Barbu - March 22 2019 at 13:48 |
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Posted: March 22 2019 at 13:42 |
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I did 30. My choices are pretty mainstream compared to most people on the site but here it is. (lots of Yes, Rush, Genesis, Pink Floyd , Crimson & Zappa.) 1. Moving Pictures – Rush 2. The Yes Album – Yes 3. Close to the Edge - Yes 4. Elegant Gypsy – Al Di Meola 5. Trick of the Tail – Genesis 6. Over-Nite Sensation- Frank Zappa 7. Animals – Pink Floyd 8. In Abstencia - Porcupine Tree 9. Scheherazade And Other Stories - Renaissance 10. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis 11. Permanent Waves - Rush 12. Dark side of the Moon – Pink Floyd 13. Power Windows - Rush 14. Going for the One - Yes 15. Blow by Blow – Jeff Beck 16 Selling England By The Pound - Genesis 17. Counterparts - Rush 18. Fragile – Yes 19. Larks Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson 20. Wish you Were Here – Pink Floyd 21.Hemispheres - Rush 22. Liquid Tension Experiment – (First album) 23. Red - King Crimson 24 .Drama - Yes 25. One Size Fits All - Frank Zappa 26. Misplaced Childhood-Marillion 27. Duke - Genesis 28. Signals - Rush 29. Apostrophe – Frank Zappa 30. Starless & Bible Black - King Crimson
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: March 22 2019 at 16:36 |
Logan, you are a mine of rare treasures to discover... I sign your list. Magma and Comus should enter my top 25 ranking: I must finish to evaluate them... Art Zoyd, Soft Machine, Gong, Amon Duul, Can could.
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Posted: March 22 2019 at 17:08 |
You love Yes, and Genesis, and KC... and Rush: I listen to their albums few times... The Lamb could enter my Top 25.
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Posted: March 26 2019 at 20:45 |
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Yes lists of top whatever can change or orders change in my mind quote a lot but the group remains intact mostly.
I wish Incould say I have some newer ones but no just the classics for the most part 1) Romantic Warrior Return To Forever 2) Elegant Gypsy Al Dimeola 3)Imanginary Voyage Jean Luc Ponty 4)BrainSalad Surgery ELP 5) Cross Collateral Passport 5)Aqualung Jethtro Tull 5) Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd 6) Close to The Edge Yes 7) DSOTM Pink Floyd 8) Land Of The Midnight Sun Al Dimeola 9) Thick as a brick Jethro Tull 10) Tarkus ELP 11) The Yes Album 12) Upon The Wings of Music JeannLuc Ponty 13) Spectrum Billy Cobham 14) Head Hunters Herbie Hancock 15) Jurassic Shift Ozric Tenticles 16) Herbie Mann Push Push 17) ELP EL P 18) Rush A Farewell To Kings 19) Rush Hemispheres 20) JethronTull Stand Up 21) Fragile Yes 22)Song For America Kansas 23) Leftoverature Kansas 24) Point of No Return Kansas 25) 2112 Rush 26) Masque Kansas 27) Cosmic Messanger JeannLuc Ponty 28) Hand Made Passport 29) Infinity Machine Passport 30) Stanley Clarke Stanley Clark I know I am missing some |
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Mmh. Well I do rankings and ratings but ultimately I think music is not there to be ranked and rated. I have my favourites fair enough. I have to admit that I did this long top 250 list in 2016 or so and whenever I am asked for a top 10 or top 25 or top 50 now I just look up that list, apart from occasionally checking whether some new album should enter. But then it takes a lot of time before I'd let a new album enter the top 25 or so, it has to prove itself over a long time. So my top 25 may hardly ever change but then this is not because I am so totally sure that that's the true ranking but rather because the act of ranking itself seems somewhat forced and unnatural and so having it done once I tend to use that result for a long time. Let's see whether I can mix things up a bit. The top 10 though have to stand: Holger Czukay - Movies King Crimson - Discipline Comsat Angels - Sleep No More Kate Bush - The Dreaming Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade Astor Piazzolla - New Tango, Zero Hour .O.Rang - Herd of Instinct Sohrab - A Hidden Place Talk Talk - Laughing Stock Brian Eno and David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts Five positions reserved for stuff that I don't have that long: Pinkcourtesyphone - Description of Problem Art Zoyd - Phase V Dissidenten - Live in Europe Pinback - Some Offcell Voices Langham Research Centre - Tape Works Vol. 1 Five positions reserved for stuff that I have been listening to lately: Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless Joe Jackson - Blaze of Glory Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon Some more long term favourites: Manfred Mann"s Earthband - Nightingales and Bombers David Sylvian - Brilliant Trees Startled Insects - Curse of the Pheromones Barbara Morgenstern - The grass is always greener Tied and Tickled Trio - Observing Systems |
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Posted: March 28 2019 at 20:40 |
What a podium, three masterpieces!
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I didn't want to start a new topic so i'll ask this question here.
How in the world do the top 250 charts work? The top 250 of all time is obviously different from the top 250 classic era charts, however the ones on both lists appear in different orders. WHAT?!!!! For example Top 250 1 Close To The Edge 2 Selling England By The Pound 3 Thick As A Brick 4 Wish You Were Here Top Classic Era 250 1 Close To The Edge 2 Selling England By The Pound 3 Wish You Were Here 4 Thick As A Brick So why is this? Well they have different QWR= numbers Top 250 Close To The Edge has a QWR = 4.6498 But on Top Classic Era 250 QWR = 4.6293 Can anyone solve this mystery? Same thing if you seach the top list of any particular subgenre. AAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!  |
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This could be an interesting thread. I've made a list of my top 25 albums which has been a very worthwhile exercise, looking for those I enjoy all the way through without any tracks that spoil the work as a whole, and trying to get a bit of variety by not choosing too many from the same artist. I've stuck all these treasures on an iPod Nano to make a little collection of nothing but true masterpieces. Now I've come back to the thread though and realised a load of them are disqualified through not being listed as Progressive, and Tangerine Dream's Ricochet as officially a live album. I was surprised however to find Mort Garson classified as Progressive Electronic so maybe I just need to wait long enough until all my other artists appear on the site
. In the meantime though I guess it could be a good thing as it now allows me to add more to the list to get 25 qualifying albums. At the moment then my list is:Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV A.R. & Machines - Die Grune Reise Art Bears - Winter Songs Art Zoyd - Phase IV Cluster - II Deuter - Aum Edgar Froese - Aqua 2005 Henry Cow - Western Culture Magma - Kohntarkosz Mort Garson - The Zodiac: Cosmic Sounds Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing Soft Machine - Fifth Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation Tangerine Dream - What A Blast Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors Disqualified: Godflesh - Songs Of Love And Hate Gyorgy Ligeti - 1958-69 Krzysztof Penderecki - A Polish Requiem Laibach - Kapital Nico - The Marble Index Poul Ruders - Solar Trilogy Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Young Gods - L'Eau Rouge Young Gods - Music For Artificial Clouds It looks like I can add another 9 then  . |
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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette
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1. Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans
2. Genesis The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 3. Yes Fragile 4. Genesis Foxtrot 5. Yes Close To The Edge 6. Jethro Tull Thick As A Brick 7. ELP Brain Salad Surgery 8. King Crimson Larks' Tongues In Aspic 9. King Crimson Red 10. Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here 11. Neal Morse Sola Scriptura 12. Neal Morse Question Mark 13. Yes Relayer 14. Rush A Farewell To Kings 15. The Yes Album 16. Genesis A Trick Of The Tail 17. King Crimson In The Court Of The Crimson King 18. Genesis Nursery Cryme 19. Gentle Giant Free Hand 20. Rush 2112 21. Gentle Giant Octopus 22. Kansas Leftoverture 23. Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever 24. Kansas Kansas 25. Todd Rundgren's Utopia
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My 25 progressive studio albums then are:
Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV A.R. & Machines - Die Grune Reise Art Bears - Winter Songs Art Zoyd - Phase IV Cluster - II Deuter - Aum Dom - Edge Of Time Dzyan - Electric Silence Edgar Froese - Aqua 2005 Eiliff - Eiliff Henry Cow - In Praise Of Learning Henry Cow - Western Culture Magma - Kohntarkosz Mort Garson - The Zodiac: Cosmic Sounds Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing Soft Machine - Fifth Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri Tangerine Dream - Atem Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation Tangerine Dream - Phaedra Tangerine Dream - Quantum Gate Tangerine Dream - Rubycon Tangerine Dream - What A Blast Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors |
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Posted: April 05 2019 at 08:47 |
I have 13 of those in my collection, Gentle Giant, KC, Yes and Genesis. I quite like them but it seems you value great musical ability most whereas unusual invention, strange sounds and atmosphere make more of an impression on me. Maybe being a non-musician has some effect although some of the parts in my selection still sound amazingly difficult. |
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