How Our Top 25 Studio Albums Change Day After Day
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Topic: How Our Top 25 Studio Albums Change Day After Day
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Subject: How Our Top 25 Studio Albums Change Day After Day
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 13:54
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In this thread, which I hope lasts very long, I invite who is interested to write his ranking of the 25 best studio albums of all time. 1) Live albums or compilations or proto-prog or prog-related albums are not allowed.
We stick to the rules of the Top Studios Of All-Time of Progarchives. 2) I Invite who is interested to meditate on their ranking, and to write the first 25 titles, according to our tastes, that change day after day, listening after listening. If it's possible, I invite you to write the first 25 albums, but, if you prefer, even less or more. [editing] 3) This ranking is intended to compare the rankings of each of us and see how they change with time, since in the future perhaps some absolute masterpiece of the progressive rock will arrive (we hope!) and impose itsef in the top 25 of our ranking. Moreover, by expanding our listenings, we can add masterpieces from the past that we don't know at present or have not yet listened well. In fact, it's clear that everyone of us at the present have not yet listened well to some masterpiece, which could, with the time, enter the Top 25 in place of another. For example, I have not yet listened in a "scientific" way much of the Canterbury Scene (Soft Machine, Gong), of Pink Floyd, of Frank Zappa, of Henry Cow, of Rush, of Art Zoyd etc. I know most of the albums of these artists, and many others, but I have not yet evaluete them. I write reviews also in order to get to a "scientific" ranking. It could also happen that some of the first titles that we now put in our first ranking, over time, we like less, and leave the ranking in a month, or a year. Anything can happen, although, I believe, each of us will have some absolute certainties on various albums or artists. 4) Finally, I invite who wants to join this thread to discuss his choices, his changes in the rankings, and make observations about the choices of others. Let's make sure this thread is not just a list, but a stimulus to confrontation. Good Top 25! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:18
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Sorry but I'm way too lazy for this kind of stuff nowadays. In fact, there's only two things in life that really interest me: 1. Titties 2. and Beer. ------------- |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:47
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My personal ranking, 03/21/2019, Spring Is Here! Rating 9,75/10 1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 2) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt 3) The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill Rating 9,5/10 4) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 5) In The Court Of... - King Crimson 6) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill 7) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator Rating 9,25/10 8) Red - King Crimson 9) Music In A Doll's House - Family 10) Animals - Pink Floyd 11) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 12) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 13) Lorca - Tim Buckley 14) H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 15) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 16) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 17) Aqualung - Jethro Tull 18) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 19) Islands - King Crimson 20) Fearless - Family 21) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 22) For Your Pleasure - Roxy Music 23) Quatermass - Quatermass 24) Collage - Le Orme 25) Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis.
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:56
Yes, I understand, I like titties, beer and... prog!  I realize I expressed myself badly in English, and then I corrected the presentation message, which could be interpreted as a way to involve everyone in this thread. Now I wrote that I invite those interested, not all, to write his ranking - and, if you prefer, even less than 25 titles.
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Barbu wrote:Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 19:00
^ Do not pay attention mate...the closer the weekend, the sillier most of my posts become.  ------------- |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 00:46
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I can't do "best", but these are all five star out of five albums in my books. I would rather not rank them, but some of my favourites include (in no particular order -- I'm used to doing artist first): Magma - Kobaia Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom Art Zoyd - Génération sans futur Zanov - Green Ray Igor Wakhevitch - Docteur Faust Franco Leprino - Integrati ... Disintegrati Comus - First Utterance Cos - Viva Boma Soft Machine - Third Jean-Claude Vannier - L'Enfant Assasin des Mouches Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer Dom - Edge of Time Herbie Hancock - Crossings Miles Davis - Big Fun Eddie Henderson - Realisation Julian Priester - Love, Love Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising Hellebore - Il y a des Jours Anna Sjalv - Tredje - Tussilago Fanfara Dun - Eros Area - Caution Radiation Area CLivage - Mixtus Orbis Eskaton - 4 Visions Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage Rahmann - Rahmann Vortex - Les Cycles de Thanatos Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts Picchio dal Pozzo - self-titled Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun Amon Duul II - Yeti Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri Lard Free - Unnamed Can - Soundtracks Gentle Giant - Acquiring the Taste Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You Embryo - Embryo's Rache I'll stop there. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 01:22
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1) Brain Salad Surgery - ELP 2) Close To The Edge - Yes 3) Red - King Crimson 4) Wish you Were Here - Pink Floyd 5) A Trick of the Tail - Genesis 6) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 7) 666 - Aphrodite's Child 8) PG1 - Peter Gabriel 9) Moving Pictures - Rush 10) Animals - Pink Floyd 11) Foxtrot - Genesis 12) The Power and The Glory - Gentle Giant 13) Ever - IQ 14) Danger Money - UK 15) Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull 16) Heaven and Hell - Vangelis 17) Time To Turn - Eloy 18) Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman 19) Weather Systems - Anathema 20) The Inconsolable Secret - Glass Hammer 21) UK - UK 22) Relayer - Yes 23) Force Majeure - Tangerine Dream 24) The Wake - IQ 25) Veni Vidi Vici - Par Lindh Project .. so predictably nearly all 70's ( that will never change) , 3 from the 80's , one from the 90's , 2 from the 00's and one from the current decade. I will never venture that far from symphonic prog but there it is. Also not much in the way of non UK artists and nothing at all in a foreign language. I am not adventurous at all but that is my personality.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 03:16
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^Compared to Logan you may not come across as all that adventurous. I guess you are still more musically adventurous than about 99% of mankind, so still in the top 1 out of 100% which isn't too bad. Anyway, although I'm not really able to contribute I think the concept is interesting enough for me to check out if and how other members "best" will change.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 12:36
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Sally Oldfield - Water Bearer Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile Alan Sorrenti - Aria Klaus Schulze - Timewind Anglagard - Hybris King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink Octobre - Les Nouvelles Terres Talking Heads - Remain in Light Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans Ange - Au-delà du Délire Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin Kate Bush - The Dreaming Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge Harmonium - Les Cinq Saisons David Sylvian - Approaching Silence ------------- |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 13:42
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I did 30. My choices are pretty mainstream compared to most people on the site but here it is. (lots of Yes, Rush, Genesis, Pink Floyd , Crimson & Zappa.) 1. Moving Pictures – Rush 2. The Yes Album – Yes 3. Close to the Edge - Yes 4. Elegant Gypsy – Al Di Meola 5. Trick of the Tail – Genesis 6. Over-Nite Sensation- Frank Zappa 7. Animals – Pink Floyd 8. In Abstencia - Porcupine Tree 9. Scheherazade And Other Stories - Renaissance 10. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis 11. Permanent Waves - Rush 12. Dark side of the Moon – Pink Floyd 13. Power Windows - Rush 14. Going for the One - Yes 15. Blow by Blow – Jeff Beck 16 Selling England By The Pound - Genesis 17. Counterparts - Rush 18. Fragile – Yes 19. Larks Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson 20. Wish you Were Here – Pink Floyd 21.Hemispheres - Rush 22. Liquid Tension Experiment – (First album) 23. Red - King Crimson 24 .Drama - Yes 25. One Size Fits All - Frank Zappa 26. Misplaced Childhood-Marillion 27. Duke - Genesis 28. Signals - Rush 29. Apostrophe – Frank Zappa 30. Starless & Bible Black - King Crimson
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 16:36
Logan, you are a mine of rare treasures to discover... I sign your list. Magma and Comus should enter my top 25 ranking: I must finish to evaluate them... Art Zoyd, Soft Machine, Gong, Amon Duul, Can could. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 17:08
You love Yes, and Genesis, and KC... and Rush: I listen to their albums few times... The Lamb could enter my Top 25. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Jzrk
Date Posted: March 26 2019 at 20:45
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Yes lists of top whatever can change or orders change in my mind quote a lot but the group remains intact mostly. I wish Incould say I have some newer ones but no just the classics for the most part 1) Romantic Warrior Return To Forever 2) Elegant Gypsy Al Dimeola 3)Imanginary Voyage Jean Luc Ponty 4)BrainSalad Surgery ELP 5) Cross Collateral Passport 5)Aqualung Jethtro Tull 5) Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd 6) Close to The Edge Yes 7) DSOTM Pink Floyd 8) Land Of The Midnight Sun Al Dimeola 9) Thick as a brick Jethro Tull 10) Tarkus ELP 11) The Yes Album 12) Upon The Wings of Music JeannLuc Ponty 13) Spectrum Billy Cobham 14) Head Hunters Herbie Hancock 15) Jurassic Shift Ozric Tenticles 16) Herbie Mann Push Push 17) ELP EL P 18) Rush A Farewell To Kings 19) Rush Hemispheres 20) JethronTull Stand Up 21) Fragile Yes 22)Song For America Kansas 23) Leftoverature Kansas 24) Point of No Return Kansas 25) 2112 Rush 26) Masque Kansas 27) Cosmic Messanger JeannLuc Ponty 28) Hand Made Passport 29) Infinity Machine Passport 30) Stanley Clarke Stanley Clark I know I am missing some |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 28 2019 at 16:42
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Mmh. Well I do rankings and ratings but ultimately I think music is not there to be ranked and rated. I have my favourites fair enough. I have to admit that I did this long top 250 list in 2016 or so and whenever I am asked for a top 10 or top 25 or top 50 now I just look up that list, apart from occasionally checking whether some new album should enter. But then it takes a lot of time before I'd let a new album enter the top 25 or so, it has to prove itself over a long time. So my top 25 may hardly ever change but then this is not because I am so totally sure that that's the true ranking but rather because the act of ranking itself seems somewhat forced and unnatural and so having it done once I tend to use that result for a long time. Let's see whether I can mix things up a bit. The top 10 though have to stand: Holger Czukay - Movies King Crimson - Discipline Comsat Angels - Sleep No More Kate Bush - The Dreaming Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade Astor Piazzolla - New Tango, Zero Hour .O.Rang - Herd of Instinct Sohrab - A Hidden Place Talk Talk - Laughing Stock Brian Eno and David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts Five positions reserved for stuff that I don't have that long: Pinkcourtesyphone - Description of Problem Art Zoyd - Phase V Dissidenten - Live in Europe Pinback - Some Offcell Voices Langham Research Centre - Tape Works Vol. 1 Five positions reserved for stuff that I have been listening to lately: Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless Joe Jackson - Blaze of Glory Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon Some more long term favourites: Manfred Mann"s Earthband - Nightingales and Bombers David Sylvian - Brilliant Trees Startled Insects - Curse of the Pheromones Barbara Morgenstern - The grass is always greener Tied and Tickled Trio - Observing Systems |
Posted By: VicRelayer
Date Posted: March 28 2019 at 20:40
What a podium, three masterpieces!
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 28 2019 at 22:06
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I didn't want to start a new topic so i'll ask this question here. How in the world do the top 250 charts work? The top 250 of all time is obviously different from the top 250 classic era charts, however the ones on both lists appear in different orders. WHAT?!!!! For example Top 250 1 Close To The Edge 2 Selling England By The Pound 3 Thick As A Brick 4 Wish You Were Here Top Classic Era 250 1 Close To The Edge 2 Selling England By The Pound 3 Wish You Were Here 4 Thick As A Brick So why is this? Well they have different QWR= numbers Top 250 Close To The Edge has a QWR = 4.6498 But on Top Classic Era 250 QWR = 4.6293 Can anyone solve this mystery? Same thing if you seach the top list of any particular subgenre. AAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!  -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 04 2019 at 07:33
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This could be an interesting thread. I've made a list of my top 25 albums which has been a very worthwhile exercise, looking for those I enjoy all the way through without any tracks that spoil the work as a whole, and trying to get a bit of variety by not choosing too many from the same artist. I've stuck all these treasures on an iPod Nano to make a little collection of nothing but true masterpieces. Now I've come back to the thread though and realised a load of them are disqualified through not being listed as Progressive, and Tangerine Dream's Ricochet as officially a live album. I was surprised however to find Mort Garson classified as Progressive Electronic so maybe I just need to wait long enough until all my other artists appear on the site . In the meantime though I guess it could be a good thing as it now allows me to add more to the list to get 25 qualifying albums. At the moment then my list is: Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV A.R. & Machines - Die Grune Reise Art Bears - Winter Songs Art Zoyd - Phase IV Cluster - II Deuter - Aum Edgar Froese - Aqua 2005 Henry Cow - Western Culture Magma - Kohntarkosz Mort Garson - The Zodiac: Cosmic Sounds Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing Soft Machine - Fifth Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation Tangerine Dream - What A Blast Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors Disqualified: Godflesh - Songs Of Love And Hate Gyorgy Ligeti - 1958-69 Krzysztof Penderecki - A Polish Requiem Laibach - Kapital Nico - The Marble Index Poul Ruders - Solar Trilogy Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Young Gods - L'Eau Rouge Young Gods - Music For Artificial Clouds It looks like I can add another 9 then  .------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 07:36
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1. Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans 2. Genesis The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 3. Yes Fragile 4. Genesis Foxtrot 5. Yes Close To The Edge 6. Jethro Tull Thick As A Brick 7. ELP Brain Salad Surgery 8. King Crimson Larks' Tongues In Aspic 9. King Crimson Red 10. Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here 11. Neal Morse Sola Scriptura 12. Neal Morse Question Mark 13. Yes Relayer 14. Rush A Farewell To Kings 15. The Yes Album 16. Genesis A Trick Of The Tail 17. King Crimson In The Court Of The Crimson King 18. Genesis Nursery Cryme 19. Gentle Giant Free Hand 20. Rush 2112 21. Gentle Giant Octopus 22. Kansas Leftoverture 23. Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever 24. Kansas Kansas 25. Todd Rundgren's Utopia
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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 08:07
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My 25 progressive studio albums then are: Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV A.R. & Machines - Die Grune Reise Art Bears - Winter Songs Art Zoyd - Phase IV Cluster - II Deuter - Aum Dom - Edge Of Time Dzyan - Electric Silence Edgar Froese - Aqua 2005 Eiliff - Eiliff Henry Cow - In Praise Of Learning Henry Cow - Western Culture Magma - Kohntarkosz Mort Garson - The Zodiac: Cosmic Sounds Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing Soft Machine - Fifth Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri Tangerine Dream - Atem Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation Tangerine Dream - Phaedra Tangerine Dream - Quantum Gate Tangerine Dream - Rubycon Tangerine Dream - What A Blast Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 08:47
I have 13 of those in my collection, Gentle Giant, KC, Yes and Genesis. I quite like them but it seems you value great musical ability most whereas unusual invention, strange sounds and atmosphere make more of an impression on me. Maybe being a non-musician has some effect although some of the parts in my selection still sound amazingly difficult. ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 09:09
Oh I didn’t realise NiN was Progressive  . I’ll give it a spin on YouTube.------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 09:40
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^ Nice sounds but I’m finding the whole thing a bit of a downer. Still I lasted 25 minutes before putting the Young Gods Second Nature on instead. ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 16:34
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After 100 reviews here is to you my personal ranking; Top 25 reviewed: 1) Sgt Pepper 9,5 2) Starsailor 9,5 3) In the Court Of... 9,5k 4) Musics in a Dolls House 9+ 5) Roxy Music 9+ 6) Gentle Giant 9+ 7) Lorca 9+ 8) Aqualung 9+ 9) Islands 9 10) Fearless. 9 11) For Your Pleasure. 9 12) Quatermass 9 13) Collage 9 14) Mark Hollis 9 15) Tommy 9 16) Happy Sad 9 17) Felona e Sorona 9 18) Larks Tongues 9- 19) Close to the Edge 9- 20) Lizard 9- 21) Selling England 8,5 22) Hosianna Mantra 8,5 23) Valentyne Suite 8,5 24) Rubber Soul 8,5 25) Revolver 8,5 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 22:51
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^ Interesting - you seem to have gone for the more musical music whereas I think it was Eno’s electronic noise on those Roxy Music albums that influenced me at an early age. And I love Tomorrow Never Knows and Family’s “Voyage”. ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 04:27
Love The Zodiac-album. Ever heard this 1969-cover version of Aries? Far out enough in a Arthur Brown-way to be interesting I think. |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 12:08
Wow I never thought anyone would cover The Zodiac! That track is rather good and Arthurian  . Ha - “Giants of Jazz Radio” webradio has just started playing “Fire” as I type!What A Blast is a relatively new acquisition so the list could change. It wasn’t that easy though to find 25 prog albums I enjoyed every track of that much. It stands out from the other TD albums though, it’s much heavier, more dramatic and varied. I love the way “Dream Sculpture” starts all New Age choirs then jets scream over and thrash guitars start up. It’s very odd they gave the best material to some obscure film soundtrack. All the tracks are on YouTube individually if you look them up from Prog Archives or Voices In The Net. If you want to buy a copy do searches for both “What A Blast” and also “Architecture In Motion”. ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 20:59
.... and those are two new bands? You didn't introduce them!  ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 16:47
 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: April 19 2019 at 10:47
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25. Luiz Gonzaga - A história do nordeste 24. The Beatles - Rubber Soul 23. Yusuf Lateef - Yusef Lateef's Detroit: Latitude 42° 30' Longitude 83° 22. James Brown - Hot Pants 21. Estrella Morente - Mi cante y un poema 20. Electric Masada - At the Mountains of Madness 19. Caetano Veloso - Caetano Veloso (1968) 18. Bohren und der Club of Gore - Sunset Mission 17. Elza Soares - A mulher do fim do mundo 16. Girls Aloud - Chemistry 15. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece 14. Martinho da Vila - Canta canta minha gente 13. John Fahey - VI: Days Have Gone By 12. Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch 11. Alceu Valença - Espelho cristalino 10. Madonna - Ray of Light 9. João Gilberto - Chega de saudade 8. Fugazi - The Argument 7. Aaliyah - Aaliyah 6. Juçara Marçal e Kiko Dinucci - Padê 5. Chico Buarque - Construção 4. The Byrds - Sweetheart of the Rodeo 3. Beyoncé - Lemonade 2. Miles Davis - On the Corner 1. Jorge Ben - A Tábua de Esmeralda United States of America: 11 Brazil: 9 England: 2 Ireland: 1 Spain: 1 Germany: 1 1950s: 2 1960s: 6 1970s: 6 1980s: Nope 1990s: 1 2000s: 8 2010s: 2
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 20 2019 at 00:07
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Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh, arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! Brain Cells Meltdown...I`ll Be Back? ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 13 2019 at 19:28
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My personal ranking, 07/14/2019 Rating 9,75/10 1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 2) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt 3) The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill Rating 9,5/10 4) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 5) In The Court Of... - King Crimson 6) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill 7) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator Rating 9,25/10 8) Red - King Crimson 9) Music In A Doll's House - Family 10) Animals - Pink Floyd 11) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 12) Comus - First Utterance 13) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 14) Lorca - Tim Buckley 15) H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 16) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 17) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 18) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 19) Islands - King Crimson 20) Fearless - Family 21) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull 23) Quatermass - Quatermass 24) For Your Pleasure- Roxy Music 25) Trespass - Genesis ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 13 2019 at 22:18
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^ I notice Genesis have crept in. Is that because you’ve just rated it? ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 06:39
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No particular order. Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic Vezhlivy Otkaz - Gusi-Lebedi Henry Cow - Western Culture Knifeworld - The Unravelling Pink Floyd - Animals Amon Duul II - Yeti Hatfield & The North - Rotters Club Caravan - In The Land Of Grey & Pink National Health - Of Queues & Cures Radiohead - OK Computer Roy Harper - Stormcock Pikapika Teart - Moonberry Cardiacs - Sing To God Thinking Plague - Decline & Fall Guapo - 5 Suns PoiL - Brossaklitt Cheer-Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor CAN - Future Days Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Von Vite VDGG - Pawn Hearts Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 07:09
great list Ian and a much too early  but in my defense.. it is a f**king good witbier hahaI haven't done up a list in sometime .. I'll post mine a bit later. In driveby shooting mode right now ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 07:13
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in alphabetic order (by artists), and as usual only one album per artist: Amon Düül 2 - Tanz der Lemminge Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel Calvert, Robert - Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters Can - Tago Mago Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond Dzyan - Electric Silence Eloy - Floating Embryo - Rocksession Froese, Edgar - Epsilon in Malaysian Pale Genesis - Nursery Cryme (self-made edition including "Happy the Man" and "Twilight Alehouse") Gong - You Guru Guru - Känguru Hammill, Peter - The Fall of the House of Usher (1999 version) Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time High Tide - Sea Shanties King Crimson - Lizard Mother Gong - Fairy Tales Nektar - Recycled Pink Floyd - Meddle (would have liked to choose "Ummagumma" but I think it is excluded by your rules) Popol Vuh - Affenstunde Schulze, Klaus - Mirage Tangerine Dream - Rubycon Turner, Nik - Xitintoday Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts Yes - Relayer some of them will be on many people's list, others are not that well known ("Fairy Tales" or "Xitintoday", for example). as usual, this list might be different any other day
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 07:16
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with a few notable exceptions Love the list Jean and here.. have one too.. as I'm about to finish the first of the day. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 07:27
yeah, I can imagine "Pawn Hearts" and "The Fall of the House of Usher" not to be to your liking. you belong to that bunch of infidels that refuse to accept that "Peter Hammill is God"  (Friede and I actually saw a guy in a t-shirt with that inscription at a PH concert. when we talked to him he told us that he follows him from concert to concert all over the world)------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 08:19
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Great list Jean, always good to see Captain Lockheed. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 11:59
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probably hasn't changed much since the last ones done in various threads.. no particular order only in as they come to me.. which means in some half assed way.. they are in order 1. Osanna - Palepoli. by no means the greatest prog album ever done.. you have to be English to get that nod for great impact and influence.. but quality.. sh*t. they got little on the master of music themselves. The Italians. May not ever be in a grts prog album list but to these ears the best and most creative prog album ever done. It had it all.. and then some. More creative than pretty much anything anyone did..and oh.. it f**kING ROCKS!!! 2. Yes - Tales - said enough about it 3a - Balletto di Bronzo - the single darkest, hardest and heaviest prog.. sh*t.. rock album ever done. Some have considered it the best prog album ever made. I wouldnt' go quite that far.. a bit too monochromatic to really consider it that. But what really is not debatable it his hands down the best keyboard based rock album ever recorded. 3b. Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries - toss copy of this into my casket before I go up in flames.. for I hear the beer tastes like piss in hell and I might as well have something great to listen to down there. A truly spiritual listen.. was thefirst time I heard it. .still is today. 5. Can - Soon over Babaluma - Talk about an album crashing the Mick Fav album party over the last few years. While YS was a call to action for your balls, Sulle Corde for the heart... this one is for one's head. 6. ADII - Yeti 7. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden 8. Magma - Kobaia 9. Dungen - Tio Bitar 10. ELO - ELO2 11. Radiohead - OK Computer 12. Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra 13. Captain Beyond - S/T 14. UT Gret - Ancestor's Tale 15. Bo Hansson - Lord the Rings 16. Yes - Close to the Edge 17. PFM - Storia di un Minuto 18. BOC - Secret Treaties 19. Guapo - Elixers 20. Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 12:13
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Nice list micky, on Balletto di Bronzo I'd call UZ - Heresie & Shub Niggurath - Les Mort Vont Vite are certainly darker & Electric Masada - At The Mountains Of Madness is certainly heavier. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 12:21
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Thanks Ian! hmmmm.... how many people have you seen run screaming and cussing you for suggesting those albums to people. Like you I've spent a good many years kicking around prog forums and seeing how these new cats react to these albums as they discover them. Never really heard the kinds of reactions with those to those I can tell you.. I have seen many do so with YS.. that is why good reviewers.. the really good ones put a warning label on YS. Never heard any particular need for that with those. Heavy, dark? Sure they are.. but I think YS is considered and rightfully so to be the king of that.. by a good country mile... said best by myself.. it is 40 minutes of being beat over the head by a 2x4.. then having your head ripped completely off as a parting gift. It isn't just dark and heavy.. the intensity of it. It never really lets up for the whole album which is why I consider it a bit too monochromatic to be considered the best prog album ever made as some of the old school progheads have done.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 12:34
For now, the new entries are Comus and Genesis with Trespass (I'm still evaluating The Lamb). This is a provisional list, I know that there are many albums that, when I listen to them well, will certainly take over from those who have taken 9. Art Zoyd, Can, Amon Duul, Soft Machine, Univers Zero, Magma etc could enter.
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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 21:48
^ This serious evaluation should keep you occupied for some time  .------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 15 2019 at 08:06
Cool list, with Soon Over Babaluma the leading Can album (I thought I was the only one) and massively good stuff such as Battiato, Talk Talk, OK Computer, much of which doesn't make its way on many lists. Then I never got into TFTO and love VDGG, so agreement always has to end somewhere when it comes to taste, I guess...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 22:04
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thanks.. and no man you ain't the only one with Soon Over Babaluma.. there are a few of us. Personally I think it took the best of Tago Mago and Future Days and was the perfect culmination of what they had they messed around with earlier albums. I think they realized it was well and perhaps wasn't really a suprise that after that album they made a marked stylsitic shift.. they hit perfection on that album. I think that takes a bit of time and reflection spent with Can perhaps to realize. I've been listening to them for years.. and it took years for that album to really click and perhaps to realize just what I was listening to. and yeah man.. tastes are tastes.. nothing to be done about that. It is why I waged a long and bitter campaign, one of the few I actually lost, to not just have that list on the main page removed but also get rid of those stupid rating.. and in it's place and a more formal reasoned list of important and influential albums. A list to be done by the people who know more than just the groups they like. My thought was to have the genre teams and the collabs do it. That job meant you had to listen to all kinds of stuff, not just what you like, and to be a collab... at least back in the day... you had to know your sh*t about prog, and music in general. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 17 2019 at 18:10
Very interesting list. Number one Palepoli, wow. Three Italians in the top 5. I should show your list to ome Italian journal or siteof prog. But even for me it's not easy to find Italians albums in the top 20. Sure not Pfm Or Banco. Osanna Balketto di Bronzo and Area aremost interesting for me. . Then, in your list King Crimson and VDGg are absents. For me it's not possible, I consider Hammill and Wyatt the most gifted artist of prog. And Frip is close. Then, last but not least, you are right, there should be a top 50 or a to 100 liat of albums madefrom collaborators andreviers of the sute. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 19 2019 at 19:37
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it is about tastes man.. sure if this were a list of albums I'd consider great. You know.. what that list could have been and should have been of course VDGG and KC would rank highly. Not many can or do.. but to me is quite easy to separate my tastes from my objective view of albums. I riffed on this notion once, it is all about the context of the album which is can be a fairly well done objective and factual evaluation of the album rather than the purely subjective view of how the music connects with you personally. Which is why we have such ouf of place contextually album in that top album on the site. They look out of place.. because they are if one views it a certain way. Albums can be viewed objectively. But it takes some functioning grey matter and quite a bit of overall and broad based knowledge of prog..and music in general. Other than the old 'I know what I like that dominates much of the reviews, discussions and the very members we have here in large part. Part of why I wanted to remove ratings was the inconsistency of it. Some like myself.. rated albums based on a objective scale. Most throw 5 stars at an album they like and that is that. No problem with that.. but it isn't exactly what the whole ratings system was intended to do..... or specifically worded to convey. Thus you go reviews like my infamous DT review that was voted the single greatest PA's review ever done.. god almighty did I stir up a sh*t storm. Went all the way to the admin team to decide whether to delete it but at least they were smart enough to see what I was doing... a poke in the eye at the system and its failings.
Objectively. Sure. That is what me and my guys were doing on another prog site before I got drafted to come work over here. Guess we were doing good work haha. But subjectively I may think the Wetton years among the most overrated and over ballyhood of all prog streaks.. perhaps only topped by Ian's Ego.. I mean 70's Jethro Dull.. and VDGG. Many love them.. but there are quite a few and I'm firmly with them that think they are the single best poster child for the very thing that ill'd prog more than anything.. prog for prog's sake.. where the notions of prog .. the trapping of it don't augment or complement creativity.. they serve as a substitute for it.
that said.. like the stubborn ass that I am.. I only did 20. .not 25.. there is a album from each I love enough to perhaps have put in a top 25. Discipline which IMO was far and AWAY the best and most progressive album they did.. and H to He which was the one album I think one can point to where VDGG actually hit the mark instead of missing it. I love that album. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: July 19 2019 at 21:22
| I used to make lists like this but rarely do now. Just too many favorites out there and I don't have the patience to come up with 25 and them swap some out every day. |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 20 2019 at 09:45
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Micky is right. I can see now I’m more interested in “the purely subjective view of how the music connects with you personally” and finding what I like for which the site has indeed been extremely helpful, so am going to drop out and leave the reviewing and rating to the experts. Most of the Tangerine Dream I’m listening to now isn’t prog anyway so it doesn’t really make any sense to review it. ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: July 25 2019 at 14:37
Your list is (mostly) over my head - although I do love me some Amon Duul 2!!!
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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 25 2019 at 22:57
Sorry, I got carried away finding 25 in my own collection, I’m not sufficiently focused on progressive rock to do this properly. Your list seems more what the OP was looking for. ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 28 2019 at 16:42
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Rating 10 1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 3) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator Rating 9,75/10 4) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt Rating 9,5/10 5) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 6) In The Court Of... - King Crimson 7) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill 8) Red - King Crimson 9) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill Rating 9,25/10 10) Music In A Doll's House - Family 11) Animals - Pink Floyd 12) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 13) First Utterance - Comus 14) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 15) Lorca - Tim Buckley 16) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 17) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 18) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 19) Islands - King Crimson 20) Fearless - Family 21) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull 23) Quatermass - Quatermass 24) For Your Pleasure- Roxy Music 25) Trespass - Genesis ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 28 2019 at 17:17
I think itìs not easy to separate the music you like from the music you consider great. In some cases, I love listening to certain records while considering them not great, because they give me relax or emotions that I am looking for at that moment. Often they are records that I listen to with ease, which do not require me a great intellectual commitment. Yes, for example, I listen to them often and easily, and I talk about their three golden albums: Yes Album - Fragile - Close to the Edge. I can say that I like to listen to them, and it relaxes me, it intrigues me the sound and their virtuosity, but I consider them an easy music, almost easy listening within prog, basically the matrix of their sound is pop. So they dont reach five stars in my personal ranking. Instead I give 5 stars to Buckely's Starsailor but I don't listen often to it: I have to be in the mood to do it. It seems to me more difficult music. Pawn Hearts is equally difficult, while The Least We Can Do is easier because it has more linear songs... and yet both make me always want to listen to them and make me literally enjoy, I feel pleasure listening to them, an enjoyment both emotional strong (which I do not have with Yes, apart from feeling serenity and cheerfulness) and if I have to evaluate them, as I have done these days, my rating is 10, because I have convinced myself that they put together greatness of composition and arrangement and execution with emotional and intellectual involvement. All this in a word I call beauty. An artwork is beautiful or ugly, with all the nuances in between. An aesthetic judgment of an artwork must be based on beauty. Now, you say an objective judgment instead. What is objective judgment? I dont know... but if I think, the only one I can consider objective is beauty. If you judge the quality of an artwork which is perhaps what you call greatnessm maybe you judge the beauty. Or you judge the historical importance of a work, and this does not always go hand in hand with beauty, you can see it in architecture, in painting, literature, in cinema: some works that have represented fundamental steps in those arts and that are remembered by many, they are historically imploded but not beautiful, while some that are considered beautiful, often only by connoisseurs, or by the minority of people, are not so important historically. In my reviews I try to evaluate the quality of an album, that is its beauty, and to do so I look at many things including emotions, but they are subjective to some extent. I think we have to start from the beauty in making a ranking, to make sure that the history of the prog remembers above all the most beautiful works, not the most historically important ones, because in some cases you should have the courage to say that a certain work, famous, at the time innovative, at the test of time, today we consider it yes important but not so beautiful. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 28 2019 at 20:23
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f**k NO brother it ain't easy to do, perhaps you really have to be hardwired for way of thinking... nor is it particularly common. The site in its early needed those types to build this site and put effort into getting them. I got found toiling away on another prog site by Ivan and while even then we were at each others throats for disagreeing about everything but the color of the sky but to his credit he obviously saw that I wasn't merely a fan of music or worse.. specific groups or style, I knew music at a fairly formidable level and could evaluate it and break it down and judge it objectively without regards to my particular tastes. And once I came over here.. both Raff and I who were among the first genre team members met doing this work for Ivan but soon immediately branched out from Ivan's particular specialty (nah nah na nah nah I won her )and started what proved to be a vast reworking and reordering of a large section of the database. To do that we needed help and we watced carefully the 'gen pop' as it were and those we saw that had the knowledge to do what we had to do.. and of course the temperment to deal with two very type A individuals and we did select, promote and work with some of the damn finest collabs this site ever had. It is not easy man.. but I do harken back to something I once wrote in a review. A good summation of that kind of thought..'Sometimes art can connect with its audience... and sometimes it doesn't. The true mark of a connoisseur of art is appreciating the effort, even when the attempt leaves you baffled or colder than hell.' ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 29 2019 at 18:39
Guess you are talking about your review on Dream Theater, this one: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=117496 My question is: in your opinion, from an objective point of view, what should be the rating of that album?
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 03 2019 at 13:47
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Rating 10/10 1) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator 1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 4) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt ------------------------------------------------------ Rating 9,5/10 5) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 6) In The Court Of... - King Crimson 7) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill 8) Red - King Crimson ----------------------------------------------------------- Rating 9,25/10 9) Music In A Doll's House - Family 10) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill 11) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 12) First Utterance - Comus 13) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 14) Lorca - Tim Buckley 15) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 16) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 17) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 18) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd 19) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 20) Islands - King Crimson 21) Fearless - Family 22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull 23) Quatermass - Quatermass 24) For Your Pleasure- Roxy Music 25) Trespass - Genesis
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 03 2019 at 14:35
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My list, in alpha order, 1/artist Bacamarte - Depois Do Fim Camel - Mirage Dream Theater - Images and Words Echolyn - As the World Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Emerson, Lake and Palmer Fates Warning - Parallels Genesis - Foxtrot Gentle Giant - Three Friends Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte Haken - Affinity Allan Holdsworth - Metal Fatigue Itoiz - Ezekiel Jethro Tull - Aqualung Kansas - Leftoverture King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic Lord Only - Fear and Trembling Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed Rush - Moving Pictures Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico Soft Machine - Third Spock's Beard - The Light Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever U.K. - U.K. Yes - Close to the Edge I got it down to 26 fairly easily, but had a really rough time making that last cut. The last cut was Steve Hillage - Fish Rising.
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: October 03 2019 at 21:23
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Selling England by the Pound MDK Brain Salad Surgery Mirage The Yes Album Thick as a Brick In The Land of Grey and Pink Silent Knight Foxtrot One Size Fits All Fragile In a Glass House For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night A Trick of the Tail Time Honoured Ghosts The Grand Wazoo The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other Kobaia Three Friends Tales from Topographic Oceans The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Trilogy Hot Rats Relayer Pawn Hearts The Power and The Glory Focus 3 |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 04 2019 at 07:26
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Hi, This is really hard for me ... and I won't even try it ... basically, it would not be in my collection if I did not love it, and that means my numbers would be 1500 LP's and 2500 CD's ... and I started with "imports" in 1971 and 1972 to give you an idea how far, and was into the TD/KS schools before just about anyone else ... with everything that was put out ... some of which are still in my top list, if I had one ... I just don't see choosing one Popol Vuh album over another. Or a KS album over another. Or a TD album over another ... not to mention that the CD's I can't get from KS (Works) 1 and 2), also has some of the prettiest stuff that will NEVER GET RELEASED ... and make some albums seem "overdone" and "over cooked", by comparison! There's just too much ... and I can not choose, although I can easily tell you that the band I come back to the most is ... yeah, you know it ... Amon Duul 2. Yeah, that's right ... the one that only a handful of folks considered ... in this thread. IF, you count the number of "famous" bands, and their commerciality and selling appeal through the media, everyone's list here would look miserable and sad. It's just too much fame and fortune for this thread for me to enjoy properly!
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Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: October 06 2019 at 10:40
Remain In Light would have made it if the "rules" was different.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 06 2019 at 14:43
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Alright well i'm gonna try to think of my top 25, this might just kill me, but I'll do my best: 10/10 1: Foxtrot - Genesis 2: Animals - Pink Floyd 3: From Silence to Somewhere - Wobbler 4: Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson 9.5/10 5: Moonmadness - Camel 6: Hand. Cannot. Erase. - Steven Wilson 7: Selling England by the Pound - Genesis 8: Mirage - Camel 9: Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd 10: Nursery Cryme - Genesis 11: Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd Ok this is as far as I can get, there's too many albums I love and I cant possibly rank them
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 16 2020 at 14:23
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New ranking: Rating 10 1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 3) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt 4) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator Rating 9,75/10 5) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill Rating 9,5/10 6) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson 8) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 9) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 10) Red - King Crimson 11) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill Rating 9,25/10 12) Music In A Doll's House - Family 13) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd 14) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 15) First Utterance - Comus 16) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 17) Lorca - Tim Buckley 18) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 19) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 20) Islands - King Crimson 21) Fearless - Family 22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull 23) Quatermass - Quatermass 24) For Your Pleasure- Roxy Music 25) Trespass - Genesis Day after day, albums rated "9" disappear. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 16 2020 at 16:16
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Have you already rated Laughing Stock or can it still get in? |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 16 2020 at 18:13
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My next review will be on Laughing Stock. I'm undecided between 8,5 or 9-, as final evaluation. So, it won't get in my top 25. Talk Talk: 8- It's my Life 7,5 The Colour of Spring 8+ Spirit of Eden 9,5 Laughing Stock 8,5 or 9- Mark Hollis 9 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 17 2020 at 04:39
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Here´s mine at the moment: 1. Wigwam: Fairyport 2. Pink Floyd: Atom Heart Mother 3. King Crimson: In the Court of the Crimson King 4. Jethro Tull: Thick As a Brick 5. Family: Music In a Dolls House 6. Traffic: Mr. Fantasy 7. Yes: Fragile 8. Genesis: the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 9. Magma: Magma (aka Kobaia) 10. Faust: Faust IV 11. Can: Tago-Mago 12. Comus: First Utterance 13. Caravan: In the Land Of Grey And Pink 14. Haikara: Geafar 15. Tasavallan Presidentti: Lambert Land 16. Colosseum: Valentyne Suite 17. Amon Düül II: Tanz Der Lemminge 18. Mike Oldfield: Tubular Bells 19. Roy Harper: Stormcock 20: Kevin Ayers: the Confessions Of Dr. Dream And Other Stories 21. Rush: Hemispheres 22. Hawkwind: Warrior On the Edge Of Time 23. Procol Harum: Shine On Brightly 24. Moody Blues: In Search Of Lost Chord 25. Absoluuttinen Nollapiste: Pisara ja Lammas 2 |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 17 2020 at 08:35
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I made this a couple of months ago using http://www.neverendingchartrendering.org/ate" rel="nofollow - this template . Not all of it is prog and it's probably no longer 100% accurate anymore either but I think it still gives an accurate representation of my musical taste: 
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 18 2020 at 11:16
Here my review http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2307858" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2307858 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 18 2020 at 15:42
Interesting, this is obviously a well thought through review that you wrote after many mindful listenings. Still to me Laughing Stock feels closer and warmer (you call it cold) than Spirit of Eden. Runeii is so comforting and peaceful. And After The Flood has always featured among my ten best songs of all time, just because besides all the experimental and unusual sounds that even this song has, it is a rock of reliability in these otherwise unpredictable waters. As a Can fan I surely can appreciate a steady hypnotic rhythm. But of course we know that music appreciation is subjective... In a way it illustrates how giving numerical marks cannot do the art justice. I couldn't argue any other marking, but to me this album is beyond marking... but of course I'm not criticising you, I play that game myself...
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 19 2020 at 15:09
I've seen your chart, and in fact Laughing Stock is in your main Top 10. Then, you have written various Top 10, with O' Rang, Mark Hollis and even The Colour of Spring, you like Talk Talk very much, more than me... but I can understand your feeling, because we are talking about a great artist (Hollis) and his voice is full of emotions, so you can feel it hot. I prefer Spirit of Eden but I can understand who prefers Laughing Stock or Mark Hollis' solo album. But I dont see Can in your rankings. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 19 2020 at 15:38
Well, that's probably another case of how incapable ratings and rankings are to capture the essence of art and music. At the end of the day there are a number of albums that are so special and important to me in their own ways that in fact no album should be ranked above them, but there are more than ten of these. That said, all Can albums except maybe Future Days (which is their most consistent, but as a whole doesn't grab me as much as their best stuff does) have their highs and relative lows that don't draw me in that much. So if I rank albums, these appear not quite at the top, but this doesn't take away from the fact that they're the number one band for me, which is not governed that much by individual albums but rather by their overall approach, range, and influence, including the later solo work not only by Czukay. Just to illustrate, Unlimited Edition has lots of stuff that I don't love that much individually, but at the same time it is such a feast of experimentation, playfulness and surprises that it contributes big time to my overall appreciation of the band, despite the fact that as an album to listen to from beginning to end no way I'd rate this 5 stars.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 28 2020 at 19:06
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New ranking: Rating 10 1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 3) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt 4) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator Rating 9,75/10 5) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill 6) In The Court Of... - King Crimson Rating 9,5/10 7) Arbeit Mach Frei - Area 8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 9) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 10) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 11) Red - King Crimson 12) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill Rating 9,25/10 13) Music In A Doll's House - Family 14) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd 15) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 16) First Utterance - Comus 17) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 18) Lorca - Tim Buckley 19) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 20) Islands - King Crimson 21) Fearless - Family 22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull 23) Trespass - Genesis 24) Faust - Faust 25) Quatermass - Quatermass ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 25 2020 at 07:28
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New ranking: Rating 10 1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 3) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt 4) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator Rating 9,75/10 5) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 6) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill 7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson Rating 9,5/10 8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 9) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 10) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 11) Red - King Crimson 12) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill Rating 9,25/10 13) Music In A Doll's House - Family 14) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd 15) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 16) First Utterance - Comus 17) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 18) Lorca - Tim Buckley 19) Maledetti - Area 20) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 21) Islands - King Crimson 22) Fearless - Family 23) Aqualung - Jetho Tull 24) Trespass - Genesis 25) Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 16:43
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New ranking: Rating 10 1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 3) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt 4) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator Rating 9,75/10 5) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 6) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill 7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson Rating 9,5/10 8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 9) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 10) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 11) Red - King Crimson 12) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill Rating 9,25/10 13) Music In A Doll's House - Family 14) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd 15) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 16) First Utterance - Comus 17) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 18) Lorca - Tim Buckley 19) PFM - Storia di Un Minuto 20) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso 21) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin 22) Maledetti - Area 23) Tori Amos - Under The Pink Rating 9/10 24) Islands - King Crimson 25) Fearless - Family ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 18:01
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I am currently in a Zeuhl phase, so I rank Zeuhl albums very high ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 19:15
Which Zeuhl albums do you love? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 21:37
I think I'm on my way into this genre as we speak! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 22:00
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My faves change a lot, especially being on this site and reading everyone's fantastic song/album lists all the time. As of 31st December 2020, it would have to be: Cardiacs - Sing to God Cardiacs - Heaven born and ever bright Genesis - Trick of the tail Ekseption - Trinity VDGG - Pawn Hearts Gentle Giant - Free Hand Gentle Giant - The power and the glory Frank Zappa - Hot Rats Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother National Health - Of Queues and Cures Renaissance - Ashes are Burning Atomic Rooster - Death Walks behind you Grateful Dead - American Beauty Jethro Tull - Heavy Horses ------------- Levitating downwards, atomic feedback scream. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 23:07
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Maybe I'm too generous with 5 star ratings because I could easily name 25 five star rating albums. I think I could also go up to 100 5 star rating albums. What I can't really do is name my top 25 favourite albums because depending on the day or week the order would change and some albums would move into my top 25 and some albums would move out of my top 25. Certain albums however will never move out of my top 25. They include: Yes: TFTO, Close To The Edge Pink Floyd: DSOTM, WYWH, PATGOD Genesis: SEBTP, Foxtrot, TOTT, Duke King Crimson: LTIA, Red Jethro Tull: APP The Doors: Strange Days Split Enz: Mental Notes Marillion: SFAJT, Marbles, This Strange Engine The Flower Kings: Stardust We Are |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 17:28
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New ranking: Rating 10/10 1) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator 1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 4) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt Rating 9,75/10 5) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area Rating 9,5/10 6) The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill 7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson 8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 9) Red - King Crimson 10) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill 11) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 12) In Praise of Learning - Henry Cow Rating 9,25/10 13) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 14) Music In A Doll's House - Family 15) Lorca - Tim Buckley 16) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 17) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso 18) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd 19) Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band 20) Darwin - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso 21) Storia di un Minuto - PFM 22) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 23) First Utterance - Comus 24) Stormy Six - Macchina Maccheronica 25) Maledetti - Area ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 21:41
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Here's my list favorite albums by favorite bands, and prog essentials (definitely not in order). Even decades in, there's so much out there to explore: Gentle Giant - In a Glass House / Three Friends Steve Hacket - Voyage of the Acolyte Ian Gillan Band - Scarabus Fireballet - Night on Bald Mountain PFM - Chocolate Kings Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three Genesis - Selling England By the Pound Esta - Mediterranean Crossroads Yes - Close to the Edge Dixie Dregs - What If Family - Songs From a Doll's House Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time Marillion - Clutching at Straws Audience - Audience Uriah Heep - Salisbury Curved Air - Second Album Earth & Fire - Song of the Marching Children Renaissance - Novella Strawbs - Hero and Heroine Moody Blues - To Our Children's Children's Children Procol Harum - Grand Hotel Camel - Mirage Air - Moon Safari Robert Fripp - Exposure Toyah - Ophelia's Dream Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy Phil Manzanera - Firebird V11 Bo Hansson - Magician's Hat Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn Roland Bocquet - Paradia Francois Breant - Sons Optique Samla Mammas Manna - Klossa Knapitatet Pat Metheny Group - Imaginary Day
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 03:39
Thanks ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 08:42
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New ranking: Rating 10/10 1) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator 1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 4) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt Rating 9,75/10 5) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area Rating 9,5/10 6) The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill 7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson 8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley 9) Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories 10) Red - King Crimson 11) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill 12) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk 13) In Praise of Learning - Henry Cow Rating 9,25/10 14) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 15) Music In A Doll's House - Family 16) Lorca - Tim Buckley 17) Roxy Music - Roxy Music 18) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso 19) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd 20) Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band 21) Darwin - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso 22) Storia di un Minuto - PFM 23) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant 24) First Utterance - Comus 25) Stormy Six - Macchina Maccheronica ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 03:23
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Old list:- 1) Brain Salad Surgery - ELP 2) Close To The Edge - Yes 3) Red - King Crimson 4) Wish you Were Here - Pink Floyd 5) A Trick of the Tail - Genesis 6) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 7) 666 - Aphrodite's Child 8) PG1 - Peter Gabriel 9) Moving Pictures - Rush 10) Animals - Pink Floyd 11) Foxtrot - Genesis 12) The Power and The Glory - Gentle Giant 13) Ever - IQ 14) Danger Money - UK 15) Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull 16) Heaven and Hell - Vangelis 17) Time To Turn - Eloy 18) Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman 19) Weather Systems - Anathema 20) The Inconsolable Secret - Glass Hammer 21) UK - UK 22) Relayer - Yes 23) Force Majeure - Tangerine Dream 24) The Wake - IQ 25) Veni Vidi Vici - Par Lindh Project that was my my list back 2 years ago . Now I would put in Far Corner - Risk , Big Big Train - Folklore and All Traps On Earth instead of the bottom 3 but would include another seventies album instead of Relayer , PFM - Per Un Amico. In fact I would bump that very high. Amended list:- 1) Brain Salad Surgery - ELP 2) Close To The Edge - Yes 3) Red - King Crimson 4) Wish you Were Here - Pink Floyd 5) A Trick of the Tail - Genesis 6) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator 7) 666 - Aphrodite's Child 8) PFM - Per Un Amico 9) PG1 - Peter Gabriel 10) Moving Pictures - Rush 11) Animals - Pink Floyd 12) Foxtrot - Genesis 13) The Power and The Glory - Gentle Giant 14) Ever - IQ 15) Danger Money - UK 16) Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull 17) Heaven and Hell - Vangelis 18) Time To Turn - Eloy 19) Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman 20) Weather Systems - Anathema 21) The Inconsolable Secret - Glass Hammer 22) UK - UK 23) All Traps On Earth - A Drop of Light 24) Far Corner - Risk 25) Big Big Train - Folklore |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 07:39
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Guess I missed this one when you started it 2 1/2 years ago, Lorenzo. But I did notice you used the word "best" in your Original Post, which, in my opinion connotes a different set of criterion than "favorite". And, since you used your own (PA-based) metric system to generate the (ever-evolving) list, I can understand how you reached your list of "best" prog (according to PA standards) studio albums of all-time. With this in mind, this is what I've come up with ... today: 1. Magma Mekanïk Destruktïw
Kommandöh 2. Yes Relayer 3. Bent Knee Shiny Eyed
Babies 4. Yes Close to the Edge 5. King Crimson In The
Court of The Crimson King 6. Pink Floyd Dark Side
of the Moon 7. Il Balletto di Bronzo Ys 8. Area Crac! 9. Flairck Gevecht met de
Engel 10. All Traps on Earth A
Drop of Light 11. Homunculus Res Limiti
all’eguaglianza della parte con il tutto 12. Eskaton 4 Visions 13. Seven Impale City of
the Sun 14. Koenji Hyakkei Angherr
Shisspa 15. Harmonium Si on avait
besoin d’une cinqième saison 16. Supertramp Crime of
The Century 17. Genesis The Lamb Lies
Down on Broadway 18. UK UK 19. PFM Per un amico 20. Nil Nil Novo Sub sole 21. Todd Rundgren’s Utopia Adventures
in Utopia 22. Maudlin of The Well Part
the Second 23. Return to Forever Romantic
Warrior 24. Riverside Second Life
Syndrome 25. Mahavishnu Orchestra Birds
of Fire ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 11:23
Thanks, Drew! In your list there are some albums I've never heard. Now they are in the list of my next listenings. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: August 01 2023 at 09:49
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Here are my top 25 studio albums today: 1. Marillion - Brave 2. The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are 3. Echolyn - As the World 4. Genesis - Foxtrot 5. Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon 6. Marillion - Marbles 7. The Flower Kings - Paradox Hotel 8. Pendragon - Not of This World 9. Echolyn - Echolyn 10. Arena - The Visitor 11. The Flower Kings - Flower Power 12. Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element, Pt. I 13. Genesis - Selling England By the Pound 14. Marbles - Afraid of Sunlight 15. Galahad - Following Ghosts 16. Arena - Contagion 17. Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane 18. Kate Bush - Aerial 19. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here 20. Yes - Going for the One 21. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King 22. Brian Eno - Another Green World 23. Galahad - Empires Never Last 24. Echolyn - Suffocating the Bloom 25. Phideaux - Infernal
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