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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Sabbath was always a limited band regarding musical ideas and playing ability.....I stopped being interested after Paranoid....maybe Master....but Rush continued to explore new ground and ideas both lyrically and musically.
 
As far as the best run......please......in the end there can be only one..........
The best 6 album run...make it 7 albums.....the mighty Led Zeppelin.


No. Zeppelin made only five albums great run, from first to Houses Of Holy. You´re really thinking Masters Of Reality, Vol.4, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath & Sapotage are not interested?
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^Are you kidding....Physical Graffiti is an excellent double album....that makes 6........and even Presence has more going on than those later Sabbath LP.s,
but then I suppose ham fisted doomy sludge heavy metal appeals to some more than well crafted hard rock with variety.

After Paranoid I moved on to bands that knew how to play.

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^I think you know Physical was supposed to be only one album. Then they made some songs longer to make it double. It can be heard. Presence is really enjoyable album, not as great as those first five.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^Are you kidding....Physical Graffiti is an excellent double album....that makes 6........and even Presence has more going on than those later Sabbath LP.s,
but then I suppose ham fisted doomy sludge heavy metal appeals to some more than well crafted hard rock with variety.

After Paranoid I moved on to bands that knew how to play.

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Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Rush although I love Black Sabbath 

If you didn’t choose Rush, I would scream at you and demand you take your avatar off and choose a new one! Big smile


There is no band that I would choose over Rush 

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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

^I think you know Physical was supposed to be only one album. Then they made some songs longer to make it double. It can be heard. Presence is really enjoyable album, not as great as those first five.

I would have to agree with Dr. Wu and completely disagree with you, Mortte. Physical Graffiti represents Zeppelin at their zenith. The album has everything from full-blown prog to down-home blues, from metal to funk to dreamy acoustic. I would say only Vol. IV is better, but not by much. 
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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Rush's best six album run was Caress Of Steel to Moving Pictures. Signals is weak.


I sometimes don't understand the adoration for Signals either. The Fountain of Lamneth outclasses everything, bar Subdivisions on Signals IMO. (Subdivisions may qualify as my overall favourite all time Rush song.....this week)
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

^I think you know Physical was supposed to be only one album. Then they made some songs longer to make it double. It can be heard. Presence is really enjoyable album, not as great as those first five.

I would have to agree with Dr. Wu and completely disagree with you, Mortte. Physical Graffiti represents Zeppelin at their zenith. The album has everything from full-blown prog to down-home blues, from metal to funk to dreamy acoustic. I would say only Vol. IV is better, but not by much. 

Your check is in the mail......but seriously Zep's albums crush any other streak....imo.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^Are you kidding....Physical Graffiti is an excellent double album....that makes 6........and even Presence has more going on than those later Sabbath LP.s,
but then I suppose ham fisted doomy sludge heavy metal appeals to some more than well crafted hard rock with variety.

After Paranoid I moved on to bands that knew how to play.

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Thank God for Gilmore's guitar otherwise they would have been a very mediocre band.

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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

But what's the best six album run ever?
Yes: The Yes Album to Going For The One
Genesis: Nursery Cryme to Wind And Withering
XTC: Drums & Wires to Skylarking
Jethro Tull: Stand Up to War Child
Guided By Voices: Propeller to Mag Earwhig
Deerhoof: Reveille to Offend Maggie
King Crimson: Lizard to Discipline
Neal Morse: Testimony to Testimony 2
Spock's Beard: The Light to Snow
Kansas: Kansas to Monolith
The Beatles: Rubber Soul to Abbey Road
A good idea to look at 6 album runs of other bands....
Have to say that Genesis from 'Trespass' to 'A Trick of the Tail" takes some beating! However, have to say Spock's Beard hit a good run early on too! Zeppelin too!
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Sabbath and Rush...
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Rush no contest.  That batch was INCREDIBLE, every last one of them, and they progressed so greatly throughout the period, making such a variety of great music, but all incredibly worthy.  

I love Sabbath as well, and there are some killer albums in there, but not quite at the rarified air level of Rush. And their best albums were the first two with Dio.  
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I love Sabbath as well, and there are some killer albums in there, but not quite at the rarified air level of Rush. And their best albums were the first two with Dio.  
I would venture to say that most Sabbath fans on the planet would disagree with you. I would even go further to say most human beings living or dead would disagree with you.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

I love Sabbath as well, and there are some killer albums in there, but not quite at the rarified air level of Rush. And their best albums were the first two with Dio.  

I would venture to say that most Sabbath fans on the planet would disagree with you. I would even go further to say most human beings living or dead would disagree with you.


I'm not a huge Sabbath fan, but I count as a primate, and well, while tastes are subjective, I am inclined to disagree. I generally don't like to make best sort-of claims about such things, but my favourites are from 1970 to 1975. As said elsewhere, I do try to remain agnostic on various matters, and if compelling evidence or a very compelling argument arises for the veracity of such claims, then my opinion is open to change.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

I love Sabbath as well, and there are some killer albums in there, but not quite at the rarified air level of Rush. And their best albums were the first two with Dio.  
I would venture to say that most Sabbath fans on the planet would disagree with you. I would even go further to say most human beings living or dead would disagree with you.

Actually, I know a lot of Sabbath fans who agree. For one, RJD has the greatest voice in metal, a definite upgrade over Ozzy's nasal wail.  Also Tony Iommi lays out his best solos on those later albums (although his riffs were more iconic on the earlier ones).  And above all, Geezer Butler finally emerges as one of the greatest bassists in rock history.  His bass lines on those albums rival those of the likes of Lee/Squier/Entwistle/Harris.  As great as early Sabbath was, there's really no topping Heaven and Hell/Mob Rules.  
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^Nothing against DIO, but to me those albums haven´t ever sound Sabbath at all.
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Well, they do have a very different sound to them. It's almost like two different groups, even aside from having a different vocalist.  
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Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

I love Sabbath as well, and there are some killer albums in there, but not quite at the rarified air level of Rush. And their best albums were the first two with Dio.  
I would venture to say that most Sabbath fans on the planet would disagree with you. I would even go further to say most human beings living or dead would disagree with you.

Actually, I know a lot of Sabbath fans who agree. For one, RJD has the greatest voice in metal, a definite upgrade over Ozzy's nasal wail.  
I would use the word "nonsense", but that wouldn't be polite. There is no way in Heaven or Hell that Dio can be considered an "upgrade" to 1970s Ozzy. 

Having seen both Ozzy with Sabbath on the 1974 Sabbath Bloody Sabbath Tour and Dio with Sabbath on the '82 Black and Blue Tour, there really isn't a comparison. When Ozzy sang songs (and I'll just give singular instances from a few albums) like their titular "Black Sabbath", "Hand of Doom", "Into the Void", "Under the Sun", "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" or "Megalomania", there was an inherent malice, an evil presence that was as much Ozzy's shriek and snarl as were the vicious riffs Tony Iommi was spitting out on every song. It's what every metal band named after guts or phlegm or menstruation or whatever has aspired to sound like thereafter, but which just sounds like silly Halloween growls with sped-up Sabbath riffs.

Dio? Never was scary. He was like Scott Evil: "You're quasi-evil. You're semi-evil. You're the margarine of evil. You're the Diet Coke of evil. Just one calorie."
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