Yes vs Flash

I prefer Daredevil
Jokes aside, Flash is kind of "meh". I like Starcastle way more, so there's that.

About Rolling Stone magazine (and Banks) calling Yes "show-offs that do things to impress people", well, that's much better than being lazy f*cks and playing half-assed music. Technique/skills and feels are not polar opposites, it's not one or the other. Yes displayed both, without a doubt.

^ Yeah, but when you are discovering music, you can't listen to everything that exists all at once, so you have to choose were to go next and what to dedicate your time, and money, into. So, if you read something is not good, and you believe it, well, why wast your time? Or at least you may leave it for later and go with something that seems more appealing at the moment. And yeah, it has even happened to me that I read negative reviews of something and I go like, well, it sounds like the things this guy dislikes of that album are just the ones I would like, and makes me want to check it out instead of discouraging me.

Mortte wrote: Never listened Flash, because I´ve read about that they never rised into level of Yes.

No, the songs were nowhere near as strong. The playing's ok but overall a footnote to Yes. Oddly a bit like the solo albums...

Now I just have get over the idea of Heart Of The Sunrise being mechanical (Flash may be a footnote but the critics are the toilet paper]

....and onto those 6 ft blondes mentioned earlier...

I'll always be a fan, but Flash is no more. 

Thanks! Don't know why,, but I got a notification from progarchives in my email inbox from an old thread, then discovered this one.

The 2013 album...

You're so right, Dark Elf, that's a god-awful video. It was doctored from the original (overdubbed with an out-of-sync, badly recorded live concert track). The original version was already a very bad-quality grab, probably from a TV screen..

cstack3 wrote: Very little Flash video exists, this is about all I've ever found.

Edited by The Dark Elf - April 21 2017 at 16:13

moshkito wrote: Hi, Neither Dellinger. I try to word my best in regards to these things, about how I feel, and how I have heard and understood some of this stuff for 40 some years. FLASH was not new to me yesterday, and I heard it almost at the same time as FRAGILE, if I am not confusing dates in my head. But looking at the whole thing from a different perspective, and a historical one, I would say that FLASH did not have the ability to "overcome themselves" and do better, like YES did, and Jon speaks about. I won't say "lazy", because some of us can meditate and some can not -- very simple -- but in the end, and the new material shows it ... there was something missing ... it was still very nice and enjoyable ... but something missing, that I can not put a finger on!

micky wrote: moshkito wrote: Hi, Interesting. I like the comment that "FRAGILE was not human" ... and in a sense that is so true as the whole album is so well defined and designed that it made it almost inhuman and too perfect an album for us all to ignore. As much as I like FLASH, and have always had those first two albums, I think that lyrically and compositionally, they needed to get past that "human" thing, not that they had to create an album that was "superhuman", which was never what they were about, but something that helped them transcent what they think they were that helped see them through a different sphere and set of fans. FRAGILE might not be human, but it got our attention ... the first two FLASH albums were nice but did not get our attention compared to the other monster. There is something to be said about that "human" thing, and it would come alive 20 years later with NIRVANA, for example, but in the end, it renders a band repetitive, and one can not find a reasonable understanding for the pieces of music, that are a bit more than just a 4 minute song ... the solos become meandering in the ears and eyes of the listener, and that is something that hurts the idealism around music, so much of which propels it! The same thing happened with IRON BUTTERFLY, who could never get past their first piece of music that sent them to the stratosphere, and mostly because it was not about the trip itself, but about the song and its this and that for the trip, and that did not last long enough for us to even listen to the 2nd album of theirs! The writing was on the wall, proverbially, for the music scene ... it was going to make you buy everything to confuse your understanding of things. All of a sudden, JEFFERSON AIRPLANE was not as intelligent a rock band as one song made it out to be, even though it had nice stuff, and one beautiful song, did not help IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY become any better and more appealing, in favor of louder, and less interesting music around the time. And then, something like LZ showed up. And "human" was taken to a personal level that most could not even relate to and could only fantasize about. That was "superhuman"?  good god man.. that is more inspiring than a 6ft blond with big tits and f**k me eyes you are a treasure Pedro.  the only poster here both smarter than me.. and able to make less sense with his posts

This last post just reminded me of Bilbo's last birthday speech before disappearing. Should the crowd feel flattered or offended by it? Should Pedro feel flattered or offended by your post?