No more Rush

Mortte wrote: ^Well, I think you should listen that Hall Of Fame version of "Roundabout". I believe if I remembered right one reason why they fired him was his asthma-problems. But anyway Davison got in that latest Yes-live problems to get high enough in "Heart of the sunrise". Also, I have wondered why vocal sound is so metal sounding in those earlier two album lives, maybe there is autotune?

It was because Jon had a severe asthma attack, and almost died from it (I think he said he actually died), and the band didn't want to wait for him to keep on touring. Still, that doesn't explain why they couldn't have him back once he was ready to sing again... oh well, perhaps because he wouldn't be able to keep up to a long touring scheduelle anyway. But still that doesn't explain why they couldn't keep in good terms and have Anderson sing with them on speciall events, shorter tours, studio recordings, whatever. And even if Anderson's voice is not the same as it used to be, I still think it's better than Davison's... his singing just sounds flat and lifeless, even if he can hit the notes with more ease at this time.

SMSM wrote: Like it or not, Rush was a sellout band in trying to keep up with musical times or being politically correct in order to win favors with the self described "progressives". Early 70's, trying to be some trendy Led Zep sound, Some of their stuff in the 80's was new wave sounding, even going into rap in the 2000's and songs like Nobody's Hero was nothing more that kissing the butt of the powerful and privileged LGBT movement. The Trees was a pro-union song - kissing their butts - just to name a few Admittedly, the public helped get them into the rock and roll hall of fame, but that place is a similar elitist progressive, politically correct club that Rush continued to try and gain approval of.

^ no, they weren't neo-prog predecessors, because neo-prog was more or less a new wave of symphonic prog based sound, with guitarists influenced by Hackett, Gilmour and Latimer and keyboardists trying to sound a bit like Tony Banks and some Rick Wakeman. 

Edited by Cristi - February 09 2018 at 04:06

Nahh neo (at least on PA) is more like traditional symph prog but with updated keyboard sounds.
Then again the neo moniker has been ascribed to so many different things that it is gettng increasingly frustrating trying to figure out what meaning pertains to what and in what way.

Mortte wrote: ^Well, maybe one reason can be, that according to Jon, there has been quite bad atmosphere in Yes. Maybe Jon even don´t want to come back. Some years ago I found quite hilarious interview about his fireing where he said in the end they have two tour busses where the jolly guys (he and Wakemen) were in the other and rest (sulky guys) in other.

I don't remember the details, but I understand when Jon got better from his illnes and was ready to sing again he wanted to come back to Yes and they wouldn't have him. Perhaps he was too bossy and the other ones were happy to have more freedom to do things their own way?

Guldbamsen wrote: Nahh neo (at least on PA) is more like traditional symph prog but with updated keyboard sounds. Then again the neo moniker has been ascribed to so many different things that it is gettng increasingly frustrating trying to figure out what meaning pertains to what and in what way.

hahaha... I do predict... and you heard it here first.

retire? no sh*t man!!!  I can read.... oh he'll unretire.. thus the prediction man 

Got a 6 pack on my prediction...  to all of you... Peart unretires and they do the Rush trifecta.. album/tour/live album BEFORE this thread sinks to page 2.

Mortte wrote: ^Well, I think the members of Yes have had quite different views of the world already in the seventies. I think you know Jon would have wanted to do Topographic in the countryside, if I remembered right he would have wanted them to live in tents. Then their mananger bring in the studio haystacks and cardboard cows. I think other members not also always understood Wakeman, one of his famous doings were that curry on the stage.

As I remember from interviews, the curry insident was not really Wakeman's doing (and I don't really remember that having had a negative effect with the rest of the band), but rather his roadies doing. I think the roadie, who was beneath the keyboards or whatever... hidden but at hand, asked Wakeman what he was having for dinner... and Wakeman responded thinking about what he would go to eat after the show... and before he knew, he was smelling the curry that his roadie brought him... all of this (the time to talk to his roadie, and then to eat the curry) came because there were long sections of the music in which Wakeman had to do near nothing with his keyboards.