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Saperlipopette! wrote: Yes of course svetonio. But then again that goes for all progressive rock which is exactly why you don't have a point.

Summa summarum, Art Rock, although accepted by many fans of prog rock, has its own life, and it's a different genre than Prog, and therefore Art Rock have not much to do with Prog Rock as it may seem to some at first sight and therefore to be artificialy tagged as "crossover prog" and (or) "prog related" at the most influential prog site in the cyber space. For example, that strong influence of 70s Ambient music on 80s Art Rock acts can not be denied; on other side, you will hardly find those 70s Ambient elements in 80s Neo Prog where New Wave elements are also there; furthermore, Art Rock in general is far more British and the U.S. thing than Prog Rock which has a strong foothold in the European mainland; unlike Prog, there are not sub-genres in Art Rock but those great Art Rock acts are sub-genres (of Art Rock) per se; that different manner of singing I mentioned already, and so on. The differences between Art Rock and Prog Rock are huge and many.


Edited by Svetonio - October 08 2015 at 05:57

Yes of course svetonio. But then again that goes for all progressive rock which is exactly why you don't have a point.

Edited by Saperlipopette! - October 07 2015 at 18:17

Sorry Svet, but I don't see/hear enough of elements in both your Big Ship links to say that Eno is the godfather or founder of Post Rock... Sure, there is a slow crescendo in Big Ship around the 3/4 mark that could be slightly influential to post rockers some 15 years later, but 3/4 of rock could claim Eno as an influence

^NEU! (Hallogallo, Für Immer), Can (Future Days era), Kraftwerk (Kling Klang is shockingly similar to Djed mm...) Early Post-rock owes plenty from that whole german motorik thing. How surprising is it that? 

Raff wrote: You're still trying to reason with somebody who says that Sade is math-rock? Come on, guys, let's be serious!

When I came here in September 2010 (you and your husband were already left the PA for some reason and you both didn't contributed for five years here) and when I saw the Belgrade's punk / new wave band Šarlo Akrobata in the PA database, and when I saw that some people here mentioned Talk Talk as "post rock" act, I really thought that suggesting the bands here is, say, absolutely free, i.e. that at the PA anyone is free to make the suggestions if heard something that sounds like some genre (though Šarlo Akrobata have nothing to do with avant prog, while the best 80s stuff by Sade is  mathy), although that suggested band / solo artist is not already tagged and widely accepted to the genre as post rock, math rock or avant.

Edited by Svetonio - October 07 2015 at 06:59

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Edited by Svetonio - October 07 2015 at 06:44

^Don't tempt him, he'll take that last question as a challenge!

Sean Trane wrote: (...)  Talk Talk, the Post Rock band (...)

  If Talk Talk were a post-rock band in any moment of their career, then Brian Eno, with his 70s Ambient LPs, was the first post-rock artist ever

Edited by Svetonio - October 07 2015 at 04:44

sleeper wrote: Svetonio wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Yup, I just voted TT, just to piss of Svetonia... Me? Who I am? LOL! I am Mr. Nobody. Actually, you piss of that great prog band Anglagard, just in favour of new wave band Talk Talk I suspect Angalgard couldn't care less.

Edited by Sean Trane - October 07 2015 at 02:49