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micky
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 07:29 |
sleeper wrote:
Hybris.
While I can see why Spirit of Eden is considered prog, it is effectively the blue print for a lot of post rock, I still find it mind numbingly boring.
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while I love to rock.. and always gravitate to more visceral music... one can't deny that music when is at its best.. it radiates a beauty that touches the hardest or most cynical of hearts. One that makes one feel the joy of living and the beauty of the world around us. Spirit of Eden was that album for me Andy. Boring?.. no more than seeing the most beautiful of women.. the most majestic of mountains.. the cutest of kittens.. the sweetest of young children.
Edited by micky - September 27 2015 at 07:31
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sleeper
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 08:31 |
micky wrote:
sleeper wrote:
Hybris.
While I can see why Spirit of Eden is considered prog, it is effectively the blue print for a lot of post rock, I still find it mind numbingly boring.
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while I love to rock.. and always gravitate to more visceral music... one can't deny that music when is at its best.. it radiates a beauty that touches the hardest or most cynical of hearts. One that makes one feel the joy of living and the beauty of the world around us.
Spirit of Eden was that album for me Andy. Boring?.. no more than seeing the most beautiful of women.. the most majestic of mountains.. the cutest of kittens.. the sweetest of young children.
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To each their own Micky. I've tried getting into Spirit of Eden several times and I have the same problem with it as I do most Post Rock that draws inspiration heavily from this album, while it's certainly nice and I can see perfectly well why the term beautiful is the go to adjective for it, it really struggles to hold my attention so that I can barely remember anything but the most vague impressions of the album without going back to listen to it. Something that I rarely feel inclined to do. When it comes to beautiful music, my go to band tends to be White Willow, any of their 6 albums tend to paint the most beautiful of scenes for me.
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micky
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 08:54 |
fair enough.. wasn't trying to single you out or pull a 'taste' card on you..I just found it odd to label an album boring.. when it is not remotely intending to be anything approaching inducing excitement the way a good rollicking album should. It is what it is.. it connects with a listener or it does not.
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Svetonio
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 08:56 |
Raff wrote:
(...) If anyone doesn't like the way PA is organized, they are free to look for a "pure" prog website where abominations such as having 10cc in Prog Related or Spirit of Eden categorized as prog are not to be found.
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Nope. I will say here that Spirit of Eden is not a Progressive rock album, because it's simply true.
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Atkingani
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 09:16 |
Hybris is a winner no matter the final results.
Can someone imagine an album not sung in English reaching the finals?
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micky
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 09:34 |
Atkingani wrote:
Hybris is a winner no matter the final results.
Can someone imagine an album not sung in English reaching the finals? |
should have been the PFM album
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 09:40 |
Nonsense make that Il Balletto di Bronzo's Ys
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micky
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 09:41 |
hell.. BOTH!
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 09:56 |
Need to listen to Talk Talk again before voting, first two times have done nothing for me.
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Ian
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:26 |
Hmmm...Eden is 27 years old and Hybris is 23 years old......not all that modern. Neither album would make my top 50 prog list modern or not......I'll cast my vote for Hybris.
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micky
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:29 |
in 10 years we'll have 3 brackets classic the Neo/retroprog/SWilson dark years and a true 'modern'
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:31 |
I prefer the Univer Zero / Present / Shub Niggurath dark years :D
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Ian
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micky
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:33 |
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Smurph
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 10:47 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I prefer the Univer Zero / Present / Shub Niggurath dark years :D |
<3
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sleeper
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 11:07 |
micky wrote:
fair enough.. wasn't trying to single you out or pull a 'taste' card on you..I just found it odd to label an album boring.. when it is not remotely intending to be anything approaching inducing excitement the way a good rollicking album should.
It is what it is.. it connects with a listener or it does not.
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I know, but I've been saying EoE sucks all the way through so might as well say why I think it sucks. For me boring is when an album fails to connect in anyway with me, music doesn't have to be full on hard rockign to be exciting, or riveting, but it does have to grab my attention in some way. That last sentence couldn't be more true.
Svetonio wrote:
Raff wrote:
(...) If anyone doesn't like the way PA is
organized, they are free to look for a "pure" prog website where
abominations such as having 10cc in Prog Related or Spirit of Eden categorized as prog are not to be found.
(...)
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Nope.I will say here that Spirit of Eden is not a Progressive rock album, because it's simply true. |
This is why most people consider you a complete arse, because it's simply true.
Edited by sleeper - September 27 2015 at 11:09
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 11:14 |
sleeper wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
Nope.I will say here that Spirit of Eden is not a Progressive rock album, because it's simply true. |
This is why most people consider you a complete arse, because it's simply true.
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Ian
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pianoman
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 12:05 |
Hybris is good, but Spirit of Eden changed my life.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 27 2015 at 23:53 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Need to listen to Talk Talk again before voting, first two times have done nothing for me. |
Not sure if "forced", premeditated (as opposed to "casual") listens are conducive to appreciation. Worked for AEProgman (strangely), but it might not work for you.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - September 28 2015 at 00:02
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Moogtron III
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 04:03 |
Although I very much admire Talk Talk, who used to be a more commercial band, for their very unusual move towards very original and uncommercial music (usually inventive bands turn commercial after some years), I choose with my heart: Hybris is closer to my heart.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: September 28 2015 at 12:19 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Need to listen to Talk Talk again before voting, first two times have done nothing for me. | Not sure if "forced", premeditated (as opposed to "casual") listens are conducive to appreciation. Worked for AEProgman (strangely), but it might not work for you.
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Well 3 listens in and it's just not working for me. Hybris it is (though my heart is with Guapo)
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Ian
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