Why Entangled?

I think because it's giving you all a taste of Baroque harpsichord, lute, mandolin, and guitar music,

WrytXander wrote: <span style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">Okay.</span><div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;"> <div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">I love Entangled.<div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;"> <div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">But can someone explain to me why everyone seems to worship it with such a passion?<div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;"> <div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">I don't see how it's any more special than Ripples or Mad Mad Moon, so please somebody help me out <div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;"> <div style="line-height: 18.2000007629395px;">I'm not a hater or anything, it's just I don't see the way a lot of people seem to do, some preferring it over even Watcher of the Skies. What's the huge appeal that I'm missing? What secret formula, and what other songs employ this formula to make themselves more appealing?

I think I like the song just about as much as you. Really great and beautiful song, but Genesis has many other songs that I like much better (from the classic period, from the two albums without Gabriel but with Hackett, and from the trio pop albums. However, I do like it more than Watcher of the Skies, but that's not because of how much I like Entangled, but rather because I don't really like Watcher so much... that one I don't understand why it's so beloved around here (or perhaps I do kind of understand). Now, if I were to choose between Entangled and the Hackett live version of Watcher on Tokyo Tapes... there I would have a harder time.

Interesting! I'd never noticed until now that the only three tracks on Trick of the Tail which I regard as truly exceptional (Entangled, Los Endos and Dance on a Volcano) were the only three co-written by Hackett.

HackettFan wrote: WrytXander wrote: I love Entangled. But can someone explain to me why everyone seems to worship it with such a passion? I don't see how it's any more special than Ripples or Mad Mad Moon, so please somebody help me out I'm not a hater or anything, it's just I don't see the way a lot of people seem to do, some preferring it over even Watcher of the Skies. What's the huge appeal that I'm missing? What secret formula, and what other songs employ this formula to make themselves more appealing? Mainly it's Hackett's guitar for me, but it's got everything Genesis in a relatively short time span, and has a character that results from the combination of brilliant writing skills from two who were to increasingly not to see eye to eye. A lot of what prog fans like converges on it in a way that it fails to converge on other TTOT tracks, nice as they are. It's soft madrigal Genesis and mystical big sound Genesis. I've often been mystified by the appeal of Watcher of the Skies that the OP made reference to. It's intro, though a big grandiose sound, never struck me as very sci-fi sounding. I would have been pleased if the intro to it were more otherworldly like the Entangled outtro. I like the lyric. Someone prior did not, and, to carry on the contrast, I would agree with anyone who might say that the Watcher of the Skies lyric is more digestible and poignant as read on paper. However, the lyrics in Watcher seem forced into the music. In Entangled the lyrics really seem to belong.

kenethlevine wrote: close your eyes, empty your mind, and listen to the last 2 minutes and you will know why

Imagine that these two minutes of Entangled are prolonged something, say at three minutes, without Collins singing and that it's nicely bridged to Watcher of the Skies intro, just as one track it might be a really great instrumental one, isn't?

Edited by Svetonio - June 12 2015 at 06:34

fudgenuts64 wrote: Mellotron and ARP 2600 outro...

Definitely the Mellotron.  Probably the singular best use of the "cathedral choir" setting on the Mellotron that I have ever heard.  Gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it.  And - yes - the ARP 2600 synth as well...

kenethlevine wrote: close your eyes, empty your mind, and listen to the last 2 minutes and you will know why

Two lines from "Animal House": 

WrytXander wrote: Okay. I love Entangled. But can someone explain to me why everyone seems to worship it with such a passion? I don't see how it's any more special than Ripples or Mad Mad Moon, so please somebody help me out  I'm not a hater or anything, it's just I don't see the way a lot of people seem to do, some preferring it over even Watcher of the Skies. What's the huge appeal that I'm missing? What secret formula, and what other songs employ this formula to make themselves more appealing?

I assume most of us in this forum are aware that with the release of Trick Of The Tail, Genesis had finally proven their point, (and themselves); that they weren't just Peter Gabriel's back-up band - After The Lamb, Gabriel's departure, and all the internal pressures that had been built up to that point, TOTT was like a release valve, a breath of fresh air, that produced an incredible collection of some of the band's best music.

"Entangled" was one of the gems within that new collection. It's simply a beautiful song and it show-cased the band's genius ability to their softer, lyrical folk-like side. I also think that part of the song's great appeal is due to the fact that it harkened back to Trespass & Nursery Cryme, but this time with Hackett written all over it, ending with Banks' beautiful and haunting Arp & mellotron solo.
There's always Watcher Of The Skies when I want to listen to Genesis' harder & and aggressive genius. The best of both worlds.

Just curious.....but am I the only older guy over 60 who thinks this is an ok song but nothing that special...?