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Posted: December 21 2014 at 09:25 |
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ProgPassion
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 09:32 |
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My qualms with Genesis have no end - I have listened to SEBTP 20+ times, Foxtrot 10+ times, Nursery Cryme 10+ times, and The Lamb around 5 times. I simply cannot find a shade of brilliance among it.
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 09:45 |
yeah. Welcome to the PA's anti-Genesis club, who frankly are dumbfouned by the adoration those albums get. We are a small group, but a proud group I Though you are one up on me. SEBTP connected with me upon the first listen. It does have the two songs I adore most from Genesis. The one time they really unleashed Hacket and the ONLY time in the history of Genesis that Tony Banks did something interesting.. more than interesting.. simply stunning actually. However that was the only one, the only album I'd put they did on par with the multiple greats that all the other greats did do, they had some good individual album tracks IMO, but overall the albums ... very weak. A lot of simply boring stuff mixed with some occasional neat stuff.
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ProgPassion
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 09:55 |
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yeah. Welcome to the PA's anti-Genesis club, who frankly are dumbfouned by the adoration those albums get.
We are a small group, but a proud group I
Though you are one up on me. SEBTP connected with me upon the first listen. It does have the two songs I adore most from Genesis. The one time they really unleashed Hacket and the ONLY time in the history of Genesis that Tony Banks did something interesting.. more than interesting.. simply stunning actually. However that was the only one, the only album I'd put they did on par with the multiple greats that all the other greats did do, they had some good individual album tracks IMO, but overall the albums ... very weak. A lot of simply boring stuff mixed with some occasional neat stuff.
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I think my obsession with the instrumental side of music probably inhibits my ability to fully appreciate them - Peter Gabriel's lyrics are frequently lauded, and I don't pay much attention to them. What are some of your favourite artists?
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micky
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 10:07 |
ProgPassion wrote:
micky wrote:
yeah. Welcome to the PA's anti-Genesis club, who frankly are dumbfouned by the adoration those albums get.
We are a small group, but a proud group I
Though you are one up on me. SEBTP connected with me upon the first listen. It does have the two songs I adore most from Genesis. The one time they really unleashed Hacket and the ONLY time in the history of Genesis that Tony Banks did something interesting.. more than interesting.. simply stunning actually. However that was the only one, the only album I'd put they did on par with the multiple greats that all the other greats did do, they had some good individual album tracks IMO, but overall the albums ... very weak. A lot of simply boring stuff mixed with some occasional neat stuff.
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I think my obsession with the instrumental side of music probably inhibits my ability to fully appreciate them - Peter Gabriel's lyrics are frequently lauded, and I don't pay much attention to them. What are some of your favourite artists? |
ohh.. putting me on the spot. That is hard to answer, for I have SO many for all the different moods and emotions i go through on a daily basis As far as favorites. I am an unabashed ELP fan. I do love heavy aggressive music as well as the contrasts they had with the silly and simply beautiful. I am a huge fan of the Italian stuff. Particularly Osanna. That my friends is some seriously intense sh*t. From the little you just said.. you need to get your hands on Palepoli if you don't have it yet. You'd eat that album with both hands and come back fpr more and want from the other albums. That album though, I put in the top 5 of greatest prog albums EVER done. Read the reviews of the album via the site. It is an album that connects in the heart.. and especially the balls. In the same vein I'm a huge Amon Duul II fan... lot of fire and spirit and trippiness. Not a bad album for the length of their classic years. Yet you still see a neat progression in their style as they went along. On the flip side. I do like more experimental or mood music that fits my more introspective moods. I am a huge.. HUGE Franco Battiatio fan. There was never a more stiring or beautifully hypnotic album that I have heard than Sulle Corde di Ariea. Turn off the lights, put on the headphones, smoke a J or drink a glass of wine.. and just be taken away ... wow. Many others I suppose ... thanks for asking though. Yourself??
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ProgPassion
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 10:16 |
micky wrote:
ProgPassion wrote:
micky wrote:
yeah. Welcome to the PA's anti-Genesis club, who frankly are dumbfouned by the adoration those albums get.
We are a small group, but a proud group I
Though you are one up on me. SEBTP connected with me upon the first listen. It does have the two songs I adore most from Genesis. The one time they really unleashed Hacket and the ONLY time in the history of Genesis that Tony Banks did something interesting.. more than interesting.. simply stunning actually. However that was the only one, the only album I'd put they did on par with the multiple greats that all the other greats did do, they had some good individual album tracks IMO, but overall the albums ... very weak. A lot of simply boring stuff mixed with some occasional neat stuff.
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I think my obsession with the instrumental side of music probably inhibits my ability to fully appreciate them - Peter Gabriel's lyrics are frequently lauded, and I don't pay much attention to them. What are some of your favourite artists? |
ohh.. putting me on the spot. That is hard to answer, for I have SO many for all the different moods and emotions i go through on a daily basis
As far as favorites.
I am an unabashed ELP fan. I do love heavy aggressive music as well as the contrasts they had with the silly and simply beautiful.
I am a huge fan of the Italian stuff. Particularly Osanna. That my friends is some seriously intense sh*t. From the little you just said.. you need to get your hands on Palepoli if you don't have it yet. You'd eat that album with both hands and come back fpr more and want from the other albums. That album though, I put in the top 5 of greatest prog albums EVER done. Read the reviews of the album via the site. It is an album that connects in the heart.. and especially the balls.
In the same vein I'm a huge Amon Duul II fan... lot of fire and spirit and trippiness. Not a bad album for the length of their classic years. Yet you still see a neat progression in their style as they went along.
On the flip side. I do like more experimental or mood music that fits my more introspective moods.
I am a huge.. HUGE Franco Battiatio fan. There was never a more stiring or beautifully hypnotic album that I have heard than Sulle Corde di Ariea. Turn off the lights, put on the headphones, smoke a J or drink a glass of wine.. and just be taken away ... wow.
Many others I suppose ... thanks for asking though. Yourself??
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The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Frank Zappa, Death, Led Zeppelin, Captain Beefheart, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Grateful Dead, Yes, Necrophagist, Parliament/Funkadelic, Prince, Pink Floyd, Santana... probably the ones I visit most often. I have Palepoli, but I haven't listened to it yet :D
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 10:20 |
oh I do like your tastes. Definitely give Palepoli a spin.. it is an experience.. perhaps read my wife's (Raff) review of it as she fills in some of the background of it quite well, whereas most reviewers (like me) just gushed about what we were hearing haha.
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 12:19 |
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"Nobody's Gonna Change My World That's Something To Unreal" Lyrics that i live my life by-from Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy's track You Won't Change Me
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 13:49 |
Genesis.
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 21:22 |
micky wrote:
yeah. Welcome to the PA's anti-Genesis club, who frankly are dumbfouned by the adoration those albums get.
We are a small group, but a proud group I
Though you are one up on me. SEBTP connected with me upon the first listen. It does have the two songs I adore most from Genesis. The one time they really unleashed Hacket and the ONLY time in the history of Genesis that Tony Banks did something interesting.. more than interesting.. simply stunning actually. However that was the only one, the only album I'd put they did on par with the multiple greats that all the other greats did do, they had some good individual album tracks IMO, but overall the albums ... very weak. A lot of simply boring stuff mixed with some occasional neat stuff.
| Actually, Mostly I agree with your points on Genesis... however, those individual album tracks are more than enough to make me like the band and not be in an anti-Genesis club. Now, I don't know if we agree on the songs that make you like the band and which ones dislike them, but indeed for me there's no whole album from the band I love from beginning to end (not even Selling England, even though it's the closest one, but Battle of Epping Forest just ruins it for me). However, I'm afraid that's the very same problem I have with your beloved ELP, there's just no album in which I really love every song they released.
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 21:23 |
Where can I join this anti-Genesis fan club of yours? :)
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 22:29 |
micky wrote:
yeah. Welcome to the PA's anti-Genesis club, who frankly are dumbfouned by the adoration those albums get.
We are a small group, but a proud group I
Though you are one up on me. SEBTP connected with me upon the first listen. It does have the two songs I adore most from Genesis. The one time they really unleashed Hacket and the ONLY time in the history of Genesis that Tony Banks did something interesting.. more than interesting.. simply stunning actually. However that was the only one, the only album I'd put they did on par with the multiple greats that all the other greats did do, they had some good individual album tracks IMO, but overall the albums ... very weak. A lot of simply boring stuff mixed with some occasional neat stuff.
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Interesting you mention SEBTP, as I've listened to it a few times and still don't remember a thing about it. Foxtrot, we're getting there. The only Genesis album I can say has been memorable for me is TLLDoB, which, ironically, is the one that gets the most flack for being boring.
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Posted: December 24 2014 at 00:40 |
micky wrote:
yeah. Welcome to the PA's anti-Genesis club, who frankly are dumbfouned by the adoration those albums get.
We are a small group, but a proud group I
Though you are one up on me. SEBTP connected with me upon the first listen. It does have the two songs I adore most from Genesis. The one time they really unleashed Hacket and the ONLY time in the history of Genesis that Tony Banks did something interesting.. more than interesting.. simply stunning actually. However that was the only one, the only album I'd put they did on par with the multiple greats that all the other greats did do, they had some good individual album tracks IMO, but overall the albums ... very weak. A lot of simply boring stuff mixed with some occasional neat stuff.
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I'm part of the anti- anti-Genesis club, we shame those who shame Genesis!!
Genesis is one of the few BIGGIES that, well... I LOVE their 80's output!! Invisible Touch (the album, not the song itself ) I love. The Brazilian is classic. Duke is strong, but not as powerful as ...AttwT...
If this were a Peter Gabriel vs. Hammill, this result would be different (due to their solo output), but since it's not, GENESIS UPVOTE!!
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Posted: December 24 2014 at 11:24 |
progrockdeepcuts wrote:
Where can I join this anti-Genesis fan club of yours? :) |
Watch it, you might alienate one of your most loyal listeners.
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Posted: December 24 2014 at 11:44 |
bhikkhu wrote:
progrockdeepcuts wrote:
Where can I join this anti-Genesis fan club of yours? :) |
Watch it, you might alienate one of your most loyal listeners.
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My three stars rating made SEBTP fall from the first place in the home page's top 100. Can I be admitted in the club?
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Posted: December 27 2014 at 02:48 |
Genesis...sorry Hammill
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Posted: December 27 2014 at 05:12 |
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This night wounds time.
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ProgPassion
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Posted: December 27 2014 at 09:48 |
octopus-4 wrote:
bhikkhu wrote:
progrockdeepcuts wrote:
Where can I join this anti-Genesis fan club of yours? :) |
Watch it, you might alienate one of your most loyal listeners.
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My three stars rating made SEBTP fall from the first place in the home page's top 100. Can I be admitted in the club? |
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 22:44 |
bhikkhu wrote:
progrockdeepcuts wrote:
Where can I join this anti-Genesis fan club of yours? :) |
Watch it, you might alienate one of your most loyal listeners.
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Ha! Well, I actually do like quite a bit of Genesis tracks - I just find them generally underwhelming compared to, well, most any other prog band. I want you to know, I just added a Genesis track to the playlist on the 8th. Just for you, HT.
Edited by progrockdeepcuts - December 29 2014 at 22:51
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micky
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 23:51 |
progrockdeepcuts wrote:
bhikkhu wrote:
progrockdeepcuts wrote:
Where can I join this anti-Genesis fan club of yours? :) |
Watch it, you might alienate one of your most loyal listeners.
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Ha! Well, I actually do like quite a bit of Genesis tracks - I just find them generally underwhelming compared to, well, most any other prog band. I want you to know, I just added a Genesis track to the playlist on the 8th. Just for you, HT.
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yeah... underwhelming..hmm.. good word for it. You are too polite Ian. Call them what they are.. f**king boring!!!
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