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twosteves 
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 Posted: December 28 2014 at 14:59 |
 Meltdowner wrote:
^ The main reason I don't like Gates much is because I'm always thinking: "Jon, shut the f**k up!" 
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instrumental is very nice but there are too much vocals for my taste.
When I think about listening to Relayer I look at all the lyrics in the
gatefold and then I pick something else |
Funny I think the opposite---lol---because there is such a long instrumental break--however, I sometimes say that during parts of Ritual, Mind Drive, and a few other epics.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 16:00 |
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Supper's Ready
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This night wounds time.
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Progosopher
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 17:01 |
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Gates all the way through. It is a more cohesive and dare I say organic whole. It has a beginning, middle, and end, and even though they began performing Soon by itself, those performances never convinced me. It has to work as a whole and only fails when it is cut up. I love Supper's Ready but its more scattered nature comes in a clear second for me. This is similar when we compare Supper's Ready to Close to the Edge.
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Dellinger
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 22:44 |
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I do love both, and for me Supper's Ready is a perfect song with perfect flow from start to finish. However, I can say the same about Gates of Delirium... and it's just got such energy that SR lacks, that I have to vote for it. And even better if I think about the Orchestral version on Yes's Symphonic Live album, with a real wonderful interplay between band and orchestra, such as I believe has hardly been heard when rock bands have gotten to play with orchestras.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 23:03 |
Meltdowner wrote:
^ The main reason I don't like Gates much is because I'm always thinking: "Jon, shut the f**k up!"
The
instrumental is very nice but there are too much vocals for my taste.
When I think about listening to Relayer I look at all the lyrics in the
gatefold and then I pick something else |
My beef with "Gates" comes four-fold:
1) Steve's guitar sound. It just lacks the edge. 2) The parts he wrote. Just sounds like a lot of playing and not really saying anything. 3) The sound of Moraz's synths. I'm really tired of hearing those eezy-weezy things in prog. 4) The experimental sounds the band threw in. Cringe-worthy and tasteless. Did I hear a slot machine there?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 28 2014 at 23:04
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Luna
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 23:09 |
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The guitar sound is actually probably my favorite thing in Gates.
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richardh
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 04:30 |
Dellinger wrote:
I do love both, and for me Supper's Ready is a perfect song with perfect flow from start to finish. However, I can say the same about Gates of Delirium... and it's just got such energy that SR lacks, that I have to vote for it. And even better if I think about the Orchestral version on Yes's Symphonic Live album, with a real wonderful interplay between band and orchestra, such as I believe has hardly been heard when rock bands have gotten to play with orchestras. |
yep love that version 
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digdug
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 07:33 |
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A flower?
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Prog On!
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'PiphanyRambler
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 08:04 |
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I love both of these epics, so I voted for Gates just because it is losing right now.
However, I can't really decide which one is better. "Supper" has the incredibly cathartic final section, and "Gates" has one of the most amazing instrumental sections I ever heard, and it doesn't just sound like a show off (to me at least). It blows my mind everytime I listen to it.
Edited by 'PiphanyRambler - December 29 2014 at 08:05
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Mormegil
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 09:05 |
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No question - Supper's Ready.
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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thwok
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 09:16 |
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I hold the somewhat controversial opinion that Genesis were at their best when Gabriel WASN'T the main focus of the band. The same thing holds true for Gabriel. Even though I find Relayer a hard nut to crack, I'll definitely take "The Gates" over "Supper's Ready."
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aliano
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 10:24 |
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You could make this poll more interesting by adding PF's Echoes.
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octopus-4
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 10:33 |
aliano wrote:
You could make this poll more interesting by adding PF's Echoes. |
That's a true epic with nothing to do with the other two. Just a different league.
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 10:34 |
aliano wrote:
You could make this poll more interesting by adding PF's Echoes. |
^^  Then i wud hav voted for "Echoes". The first ever EPIC that i had the pleasure to listen.That was long before i had heard anything from Yes/Genesis.
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 10:36 |
octopus-4 wrote:
aliano wrote:
You could make this poll more interesting by adding PF's Echoes. |
That's a true epic with nothing to do with the other two. Just a different league. |
^^ Exactly...
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Progfan1958
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 11:28 |
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The Gates, from my first listen to it in 1974.
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 12:44 |
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Genesis, Supper's Ready.
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When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.
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Michael678
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 12:49 |
richardh wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
I do love both, and for me Supper's Ready is a perfect song with perfect flow from start to finish. However, I can say the same about Gates of Delirium... and it's just got such energy that SR lacks, that I have to vote for it. And even better if I think about the Orchestral version on Yes's Symphonic Live album, with a real wonderful interplay between band and orchestra, such as I believe has hardly been heard when rock bands have gotten to play with orchestras. |
yep love that version |
Agreed!
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Atkingani
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 16:17 |
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Svetonio
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 19:48 |
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The Gates of Delirium
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"The Gates Of Delirium" Vs "Supper's Ready"
