"The Gates Of Delirium" Vs "Supper's Ready"
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Topic: "The Gates Of Delirium" Vs "Supper's Ready"
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Subject: "The Gates Of Delirium" Vs "Supper's Ready"
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 10:56
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Two Prog dinosaurs...two monumental songs. CHOOSE... 
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 11:00
| Supper's Ready used to be my fav classic era prog epic....until i heard the Gates.... |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 11:05
Gates Of Delirium by far. And it's not even my favorite Yes epic  ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 11:22
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Gates. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 11:29
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Gates. -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 11:35
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Supper's Ready ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 12:00
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Suppers Ready. Easy choice. GOD is ok... ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 12:03
Superman against god  Superman
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 12:05
yeah man. Nowhere near my favorite but Gates still towers above anything Genesis did. Gates of Delirium ROCKS!!! and yet ends with purpose and such beauty.. what does Supper's Ready do... amuse you with a mildly clever section about Winston Churchill being in drag. pfff.. I really don't understand you Genesis bobbleheads  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Imperial Zeppelin wrote:Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 12:17
Fun fact: Banks says his organ solo in "Supper's Ready"'s 'Apocalypse In 9/8' section was meant to parody Emerson's style.
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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 12:27
| Gates is probably my favorite Yes track, but against Supper's Ready - easy call. Supper's Ready... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 12:30
so he says I suppose Emerson was guilty of many sins .. but putting one to sleep was never one of them.------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 12:33
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"The Gates of Delirium" hands down. Relayer is an album that grew on me over the years, though it did take a long time to finally do so. On the other hand, I have never managed to get into "Supper's Ready" - or the whole of Foxtrot for that matter. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 13:11
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Supper ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 13:35
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Supper's Ready is a slam dunk......It does what an epic should and that is take you on a journey and then bring you back home, the song is brilliance. Gates is also brilliant, but lands shy of what Genesis did on Supper. -------------   
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 13:49
Oh yeah. "Tarkus" over "Supper's Ready" any day. I do consider it a few degrees better then "Gates", though.
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Posted By: 30secondstolars
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 13:55
| I feel the same as you. Gates gets me pumped and excited, I can barely get through the first few minutes of Supper's Ready before I'm bored out of my mind |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 14:38
| Supper's Ready! How is there any comparison?! That said, Gates is much better structured and definitely the highlight of Relayer. Possibly Yes' greatest ever song actually... |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 15:18
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Tough one, actually. Supper's Ready was an old favorite of mine, and some parts still bring a shiver to the spine. These days I prefer Gates Of Delirium, but only slightly. Yes is completely going loose on Jon Anderson's musical fantasies over "War And Peace". Wolves crying, batlles with guitars, and on top of it, Moraz' wonderful synths.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 15:28
| Gates probably as its a cathartic work of art. Supper's Ready is mostly magic and only boring if you're not paying attention. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 16:36
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Love them both but got really burned out on Supper's Ready where I still spin Gates regularly ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 16:53
| Close to the Edge...but Supper's Ready beats Gates |
Posted By: ebil0505
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 17:09
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The one with Steve H. on guitar ------------- "I like to think oysters transcend national barriers." - Roger Waters |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 17:10
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sorry Yes, but Genesis takes the cake for this one...for now. oh, and another thing, i think i already have seen this poll before; i can't find the link to a previous one, however. ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 17:18
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Both are cool for first 7 mins or so. Gates drops off a lot after that and supper drops off a bit too. Yes became too big for their boots in 73 and 74. Sound chaser sounds pretty silly ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 17:20
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666 is no longer alone..... |
Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 18:26
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I think that Supper's Ready has a better climax, but Gates is an overall better piece. Despite how much I think some of Genesis' best music is in Supper, I still find it as a whole to be disjointed. Gates is very driven, very purposeful, from beginning to end. ------------- Matt |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 20:40
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Stairway to Heaven ------------- |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 20:54
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No way I can pick one over the other. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 22:16
Now im confused...coz Steve Hogarth played guitar on both.
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Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 22:17
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Almost nothing can beat Supper's Ready. So the winner picked by me is obvious. ------------- 
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 27 2014 at 22:35
Agree and both are prog masterpieces---love both---but voted Supper's Ready---go figure
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 00:00
| "Supper". I still don't get "Gates". |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 02:07
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Supper's Ready. The first three minutes, Willow Farm and Apocalypse in 9/8 are uncontested. ------------- 
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 03:27
Same here ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 03:30
| Gates is the best prog epic ever made and Suppers Ready is second (IMO) |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 06:58
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Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 07:03
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Two of my fav. epics. SR = 10/10 GOD = 11/10 - so Gates wins fro me. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 07:10
hah. Easy take a collection of incredibly talented instrumentalists.... toss into the bowl.. an epic on a seminal piece of literature with very pertinent overall theme. Let them blow your mind with 'god I wish I was that good' playing, in a nice tidy easy to follow arrangement. A free flowing piece that is not a collage of song tidbits.. but a complete whole of a composition with real structure. A stirring and martial Prelude.. then battle..where they go apesh*t crazy...then a very touching and beautiful finale as one realizes that while battle is great and lets out the alpha male in all of us... it is all just a colossal waste. and just what is Super's Ready... a collage of song tidbits..what is the point and purpose of it. It is more prone to put you to sleep than make you think and feel.. or simply to inspire you to grab yer geetar and play.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 09:54
^ The main reason I don't like Gates much is because I'm always thinking: "Jon, shut the f**k up!"  The instrumental is very nice but there are too much vocals for my taste. When I think about listening to Relayer I look at all the lyrics in the gatefold and then I pick something else
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 14:59
Funny I think the opposite---lol---because there is such a long instrumental break--however, I sometimes say that during parts of Ritual, Mind Drive, and a few other epics.
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 16:00
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Supper's Ready
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 17:01
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Gates all the way through. It is a more cohesive and dare I say organic whole. It has a beginning, middle, and end, and even though they began performing Soon by itself, those performances never convinced me. It has to work as a whole and only fails when it is cut up. I love Supper's Ready but its more scattered nature comes in a clear second for me. This is similar when we compare Supper's Ready to Close to the Edge. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 22:44
| I do love both, and for me Supper's Ready is a perfect song with perfect flow from start to finish. However, I can say the same about Gates of Delirium... and it's just got such energy that SR lacks, that I have to vote for it. And even better if I think about the Orchestral version on Yes's Symphonic Live album, with a real wonderful interplay between band and orchestra, such as I believe has hardly been heard when rock bands have gotten to play with orchestras. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 23:03
1) Steve's guitar sound. It just lacks the edge. 2) The parts he wrote. Just sounds like a lot of playing and not really saying anything. 3) The sound of Moraz's synths. I'm really tired of hearing those eezy-weezy things in prog. 4) The experimental sounds the band threw in. Cringe-worthy and tasteless. Did I hear a slot machine there?
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: December 28 2014 at 23:09
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The guitar sound is actually probably my favorite thing in Gates. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 04:30
yep love that version
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 07:33
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A flower? ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: 'PiphanyRambler
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 08:04
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I love both of these epics, so I voted for Gates just because it is losing right now. However, I can't really decide which one is better. "Supper" has the incredibly cathartic final section, and "Gates" has one of the most amazing instrumental sections I ever heard, and it doesn't just sound like a show off (to me at least). It blows my mind everytime I listen to it. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 09:05
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No question - Supper's Ready. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: thwok
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 09:16
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I hold the somewhat controversial opinion that Genesis were at their best when Gabriel WASN'T the main focus of the band. The same thing holds true for Gabriel. Even though I find Relayer a hard nut to crack, I'll definitely take "The Gates" over "Supper's Ready." ------------- I am the funkiest man on the planet! |
Posted By: aliano
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 10:24
| You could make this poll more interesting by adding PF's Echoes. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 10:33
That's a true epic with nothing to do with the other two. Just a different league. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 10:34
^^ Then i wud hav voted for "Echoes". The first ever EPIC that i had the pleasure to listen.That was long before i had heard anything from Yes/Genesis.
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 10:36
^^ Exactly... |
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 11:28
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The Gates, from my first listen to it in 1974. ------------- Progfan1958 "Peace to you all" "La paix est avec vous" "Pax vobiscum" "Al salaam a'alaykum" "Vrede zij met u allen" "Shalom aleichem" |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 12:44
Genesis, Supper's Ready.------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 12:49
Agreed! ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 16:17
------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 19:48
| The Gates of Delirium |
Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: December 29 2014 at 20:52
| Gates. |
Posted By: melotron98
Date Posted: December 30 2014 at 13:46
| +1 for the best (IMO) piece Yes has ever recorded. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: December 30 2014 at 15:48
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Supper's Ready, just. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 30 2014 at 16:35
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Gates by light years |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 30 2014 at 16:42
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 30 2014 at 20:51
The guitar sound is so extraordinary---and an example of the artistry of a one of a kind guitarist---name another guitarist who could go from the sound in the beginning of CTTE to a few years later the evil, funky sound of Gates. The guy is a creative genius.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 08:21
| i would have liked to go Supper's Ready on this one, but it all comes down to the issue of rediscovery as time goes by. That is to say Gates' offers fans a unique listening challenge (interpretation of elements) on each new play. Although Supper's Ready ranks high among Genesis offerings in the band's level of musicianship and Gabriel's performance on it, Gates' edges it out by means of complexity and theme. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 08:34
Oh, yeah, that is precisely what I'm thinking when Mr. Anderson is singing perhaps the most beautiful prog ballad ever, Soon. Someone call a cop! |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 10:09
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Supper's Ready, although GoD is my favourite Yes track. Almost everything by Genesis beats anything from Yes for me though. -------------  
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 11:25
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Gud to see Gates...catching up..
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