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bloodnarfer
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 10:05 |
equally great
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Hercules
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 10:24 |
Echoes very easily.
Never really felt SOYCD was that good, but Echoes is Floyd's masterwork.
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Hercules
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 10:26 |
m2thek wrote:
I think the middle section of Echoes is pretty unnecessary. The parts around it are great, but it could easily be 5 minutes shorter.
Shine On is just dripping with emotion all of the way through. The sense of loss, mourning, and emptiness is fantastic. I think the first half is nearly perfect, and while the second half isn't nearly as good as the first, the final section is one of the best sections of music they ever made. The two parts combined are far better than Echoes in just about every way. |
Of course it couldn't. The whole concept is about being underwater and that section is pivotal and, even though I generally don't like sound effects, that one works.
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 12:24 |
SOYCD! A more modern sound that enables it to be an evergreen.
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 12:24 |
Hercules wrote:
m2thek wrote:
I think the middle section of Echoes is pretty unnecessary. The parts around it are great, but it could easily be 5 minutes shorter.Shine On is just dripping with emotion all of the way through. The sense of loss, mourning, and emptiness is fantastic. I think the first half is nearly perfect, and while the second half isn't nearly as good as the first, the final section is one of the best sections of music they ever made. The two parts combined are far better than Echoes in just about every way. |
Of course it couldn't. The whole concept is about being underwater and that section is pivotal and, even though I generally don't like sound effects, that one works. |
For the underground part..
Not just works...its out-worldly great.
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Michael678
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 14:12 |
GGGGAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! SO HARD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MY TWO FAVORITES FROM THESE GUYS!!! so much so i voted for the both choice, but Shine On is usually #1 though sometimes its Echoes. that's why i chose both.
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 14:20 |
Shine on
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Kirillov
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 14:55 |
Echoes
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La nouvelle terre
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 16:36 |
Shine on for me...but Echoes is great too.
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 16:37 |
Echoes > Shine On WYWH > Meddle
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 18:45 |
Echoes..choes..choes..choes..hoes..hoes..hoes..oes..oes..oes..s..s..s......
WYWH in general is not really in my fave Floyd list. Shine is good though.
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ebil0505
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 20:51 |
Both are a maze sing
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Dellinger
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 21:56 |
addictedtoprog wrote:
Hercules wrote:
m2thek wrote:
I think the middle section of Echoes is pretty unnecessary. The parts around it are great, but it could easily be 5 minutes shorter.Shine On is just dripping with emotion all of the way through. The sense of loss, mourning, and emptiness is fantastic. I think the first half is nearly perfect, and while the second half isn't nearly as good as the first, the final section is one of the best sections of music they ever made. The two parts combined are far better than Echoes in just about every way. |
Of course it couldn't. The whole concept is about being underwater and that section is pivotal and, even though I generally don't like sound effects, that one works. |
For the underground part..
Not just works...its out-worldly great. |
In the beginning I didn't like that middle section either... I didn't particularly dislike it, but found it unessesary too. However, the rest of the song is so great that I always heard it complete anyway, and with time I have come to apreciate even that middle part and wouldn't have that song any other way. Besides, the comeback of the melody is such a high peak of the song, and without that atmospheric section and slow build up towards melody it wouldn't be nearly such a great moment. I had a very similar experience with Atom Heart Mother too. Now, I'm wondering if I really gave it a try, if something of the sort could happen with Tarkus, which has some really wonderful moments, but the middle section just ruins it for me (of course, the difference is that with Tarkus I do dislike the middle "Mass" section... a lot).
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Kati
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:29 |
addictedtoprog wrote:
Just finished listening to Meddle and WYWH in entirety back to back. As always after finishing m thinking-which one is better.
During this particular listen i enjoyed 'SOYCD' a lot..maybe coz i played it today almost after an year..
For 'Echoes' i hav always felt it to be essential Pink Floyd and essential space rock..and i still play it at least once a week. Echoes |
addictedtoprog, my vote goes to Echoes, I love that spacy submarine radar plink plink sound going into the deep dark emptiness.
Funny thing about this track is that the band were at first not much impressed by it infact they named it at first'Nothing, Parts 1-24.' After later edits, the song was called 'Return of the Son of Nothing' before it received its final title.
I simply adore this song, every listen is aaahhh wow
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Quirky Turkey
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:39 |
Shine on is a bunch of boring blues jams when compared to Echoes
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Kati
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:47 |
Luna wrote:
Shine is that one song that goes completely over my head. I haven't understood the incredible praise it's received. |
Hi Luna, I do love Shine on you crazy diamond too to be honest but Echoes is my absolute choice no doubt, however to name another Floyd favorite to compare with Shine on it would be comfortably numb, shine on does not surpass Comfortable, that Gilmour solo kills me hugs
Edited by Kati - September 22 2014 at 22:48
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:32 |
Echoes is the essence of Pink Floyd.
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:55 |
Kati wrote:
addictedtoprog wrote:
Just finished listening to Meddle and WYWH in entirety back to back. As always after finishing m thinking-which one is better.
During this particular listen i enjoyed 'SOYCD' a lot..maybe coz i played it today almost after an year..
For 'Echoes' i hav always felt it to be essential Pink Floyd and essential space rock..and i still play it at least once a week. Echoes |
addictedtoprog, my vote goes to Echoes, I love that spacy submarine radar plink plink sound going into the deep dark emptiness.
Funny thing about this track is that the band were at first not much impressed by it infact they named it at first'Nothing, Parts 1-24.' After later edits, the song was called 'Return of the Son of Nothing' before it received its final title.
I simply adore this song, every listen is aaahhh wow
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Kati
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 00:08 |
addictedtoprog wrote:
Kati wrote:
addictedtoprog wrote:
Just finished listening to Meddle and WYWH in entirety back to back. As always after finishing m thinking-which one is better.
During this particular listen i enjoyed 'SOYCD' a lot..maybe coz i played it today almost after an year..
For 'Echoes' i hav always felt it to be essential Pink Floyd and essential space rock..and i still play it at least once a week. Echoes |
addictedtoprog, my vote goes to Echoes, I love that spacy submarine radar plink plink sound going into the deep dark emptiness.
Funny thing about this track is that the band were at first not much impressed by it infact they named it at first'Nothing, Parts 1-24.' After later edits, the song was called 'Return of the Son of Nothing' before it received its final title.
I simply adore this song, every listen is aaahhh wow
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 00:38 |
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