"Echoes Vs "SOYCD"
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Topic: "Echoes Vs "SOYCD"
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Subject: "Echoes Vs "SOYCD"
Date Posted: September 21 2014 at 21:17
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Just finished listening to Meddle and WYWH in entirety back to back. As always after finishing m thinking-which one is better.
During this particular listen i enjoyed 'SOYCD' a lot..maybe coz i played it today almost after an year.. For 'Echoes' i hav always felt it to be essential Pink Floyd and essential space rock..and i still play it at least once a week. Echoes 
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Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: September 21 2014 at 21:24
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Echoes ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 21 2014 at 21:45
| Of course I love both, but in the end I like Shine On slightly better... it might actually be my very favourite song of all time... specially if I consider all 9 parts as a single song. |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: September 21 2014 at 21:59
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Shine is that one song that goes completely over my head. I haven't understood the incredible praise it's received. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 21 2014 at 22:22
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I like them both, both are very different so it is hard to judge one over the other. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: September 21 2014 at 23:14
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I said Echoes was my favorite in the last PF poll and I will say it again. Shine On, though, what a great song that is too. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 00:20
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Echoes ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 01:54
| SOYCD |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 03:06
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Echoes. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 03:29
| Echoes is a desert island epic-pic. I think i can understand why others like Shine, but I don't.. |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 03:34
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Shine On has great childhood memories for me, whereas I didn't hear Echoes until the 1980s. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 04:55
| The first 4 or 5 minutes of Shine On are pure bliss. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 04:57
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I'll say both. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 06:15
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Both equally. Different moods for both, and both amazing.
------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 06:49
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Shine On... I think, but it's close.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 09:04
| Both, of course. But if forced to choose SOYCD... |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 09:36
Great poll! Shine On baby! 
------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 09:41
| Two absolute classics - just gave it to Shine on. |
Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 09:48
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I think the middle section of Echoes is pretty unnecessary. The parts around it are great, but it could easily be 5 minutes shorter. Shine On is just dripping with emotion all of the way through. The sense of loss, mourning, and emptiness is fantastic. I think the first half is nearly perfect, and while the second half isn't nearly as good as the first, the final section is one of the best sections of music they ever made. The two parts combined are far better than Echoes in just about every way. ------------- Matt |
Posted By: floflo79
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 09:56
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Both equally. It's the two best songs of PF. ------------- 
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 10:05
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equally great ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ramza1316" rel="nofollow - www.last.fm/user/ramza1316 https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845 |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 10:24
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Echoes very easily. Never really felt SOYCD was that good, but Echoes is Floyd's masterwork. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 10:26
Of course it couldn't. The whole concept is about being underwater and that section is pivotal and, even though I generally don't like sound effects, that one works. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
m2thek wrote:Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 12:24
| SOYCD! A more modern sound that enables it to be an evergreen. |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 12:24
For the underground part..
Not just works...its out-worldly great. |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 14:12
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GGGGAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! SO HARD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MY TWO FAVORITES FROM THESE GUYS!!! so much so i voted for the both choice, but Shine On is usually #1 though sometimes its Echoes. that's why i chose both. ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 14:20
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Shine on -------------  
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Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 14:55
| Echoes |
Posted By: La nouvelle terre
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 16:36
| Shine on for me...but Echoes is great too. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 16:37
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Echoes > Shine On WYWH > Meddle ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 18:45
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Echoes..choes..choes..choes..hoes..hoes..hoes..oes..oes..oes..s..s..s......
WYWH in general is not really in my fave Floyd list. Shine is good though. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: ebil0505
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 20:51
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Both are a maze sing ------------- "I like to think oysters transcend national barriers." - Roger Waters |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 21:56
In the beginning I didn't like that middle section either... I didn't particularly dislike it, but found it unessesary too. However, the rest of the song is so great that I always heard it complete anyway, and with time I have come to apreciate even that middle part and wouldn't have that song any other way. Besides, the comeback of the melody is such a high peak of the song, and without that atmospheric section and slow build up towards melody it wouldn't be nearly such a great moment. I had a very similar experience with Atom Heart Mother too. Now, I'm wondering if I really gave it a try, if something of the sort could happen with Tarkus, which has some really wonderful moments, but the middle section just ruins it for me (of course, the difference is that with Tarkus I do dislike the middle "Mass" section... a lot). |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:29
addictedtoprog, my vote goes to Echoes, I love that spacy submarine radar plink plink sound going into the deep dark emptiness. Funny thing about this track is that the band were at first not much impressed by it infact they named it at first'Nothing, Parts 1-24.' After later edits, the song was called 'Return of the Son of Nothing' before it received its final title.  I simply adore this song, every listen is aaahhh wow
hugs 
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Posted By: Quirky Turkey
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:39
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Shine on is a bunch of boring blues jams when compared to Echoes |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:47
Hi Luna, I do love Shine on you crazy diamond too to be honest but Echoes is my absolute choice no doubt, however to name another Floyd favorite to compare with Shine on it would be comfortably numb, shine on does not surpass Comfortable, that Gilmour solo kills me hugs
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:32
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Echoes is the essence of Pink Floyd. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:55
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: September 23 2014 at 00:08
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: September 23 2014 at 00:38
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: September 23 2014 at 06:06
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I used to work in some cavern somewhere sometime that had a door that, when moved briefly made exactly the same ping at the start of Echoes. They could have recorded it much cheaper there. Both fantastic pieces. Echoes is an instrumental with vocals illustrating what the music portrays, Shine On has that sense of space and eternity that fits in with the remember Syd idea. Oddly perhaps,I prefer to think of the lyrics in a more abstract way, more general perhaps. I, er, did not know Syd. Few did. But they both have that monumental epic quality. And DG guitar. |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: September 23 2014 at 06:10
I almost forgot Echoes had vocals on it but yes between all even sounded like the phantom of the opera except not related to the fab lead guitar breaks yay! |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 23 2014 at 06:23
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I gotta say that both are the equivalent of joy for me.....
Add to that Atom Heart Mother and we have a triptych of fantastic Prog-Floyd that rivals the best of any sub-genre..... |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 23 2014 at 10:10
| ECHOES. You can't find any "Equal" stuffs. "Equal" things never exist specially in Art. |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: September 23 2014 at 14:18
Shine On for me, although Echoes definitely has its moments (but a bit outdated for me to be honest  )
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: September 24 2014 at 04:23
"A Timeless Classic" . |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: September 25 2014 at 17:30
Shine On You Crazy Diamond.------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: September 25 2014 at 17:52
I couldn't figure out how to justify voting for Echoes, so I'll borrow your idea: "Going Strong & Sounding Fresh for 43 Years and Counting"
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 12:28
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Another one
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 12:48
| Shine on, you crazy diamonds. |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 12:54
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Shine On You Crazy Diamond
------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 16:41
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some days its Echoes, some days its Shine On; the "Both Equally" choice then i say. ------------- Progrockdude |