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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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If you consider Highest Points to be your best possible player for your flex position as opposed to grouping it the QB/DEF category the flex is considered for 11/16 total games. I personally like how much the flex spot is to be considered for side pots. You may risk losing your head to head sometimes just trying to play to win them, and I think that is how it kinda should be. If we give more value to the QB and Def those players who are potentially already doing very well will also be winning more of the side pots. Members who's teams did not make the playoffs have more of a chance at winning side pots, giving them incentive to continue to play even thought they may not place in the top 3. This is where maybe winning your head to head is less important than the side pot (e.g you are in last place with no chance of placing but week 16 is highest RB; there is a greater possibility that a last place team has a RB that could win the side pot as oppose to a QB). This incentive for low placing teams to still set a line up is something I like to encourage because in most leagues once someone doesn't make the playoffs they stop caring completely.
This is just my general observation after being commissioner in a couple of leagues, but if everyone likes what Bobby has suggested we can roll with that. Also, I intentionally left out kickers, but sometimes it is fun to throw in that kind of randomness. |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32553 |
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Hmm. I think that's an interesting idea- almost something of a side game. I'd support it.
However, to make it a little more equitable, I would consider eliminating the "highest points" category and using QB and DEF twice each so that the FLEX positions get visited evenly (four times each). My proposal: 1. QB 2. WR 3. RB 4. TE 5. DEF 6. WR 7. RB 8. TE 9. QB 10. WR 11. RB 12. TE 13. DEF 14. WR 15. RB 16. TE Thoughts? |
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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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Ok no redraft, also no keeper league until after next year. I suppose I don't mind doing a keeper league after this season if that is what everyone wants, but being present at the draft is so important I would just rather wait....
We are however going to do side pots. And the value of side pots will determine next years draft order. This is how it will work. Week1 Highest Points Week5 Highest TE pts Week9 Highest WR Pts Week13 Highest Points Week2 Highest QB Pts Week6 Highest Def pts Week10 Highest RB Pts Week14 Highest QB Pts Week3 Highest WR Pts Week7 Highest Points Week11 Highest TE Pts Week15 Highest WR Pts Week4 Highest RB Pts Week8 Highets QB pts Week12 Highest Def Pts Week16 Highest RB Pts This makes the flex spot (WR/TE/RB) a valuable position in that each week you may play one of your benched players for the weekly side pot position. e.g on week 10 who ever had the RB with the highest scoring fantasy points wins for that week. On week 10 you may want to play one of your benched RB's in the flex spot in case that player has a breakaway game. Sure another player might be a better overall play or just more consistent, but winning side pots can possibly put you for first round pick next year. Let me know now if you guys do not like this, we'll change it around or scrap it completely accordingly.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32553 |
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Thanks. Yes, we'll be right outside Asheville. Hopefully my brothers catch some fish I can do something with. |
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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Ooooh, speaking of that, I saw a black bear on Sunday (from my car). But this was in Oregon, mind you. Have fun camping. The Carolinas are no doubt safer from wildlife, if that's where you're camping. |
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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I'm moving on Friday so I will likely be without internet until Wednesday or so next week. And I was against redrafting in the first place.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32553 |
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At this juncture, I would prefer not redrafting, primarily because my wife and I will likely not have Internet access at all this weekend (Labor Day weekend), since we are going camping.
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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Why don't we go ahead and redraft then. I counted 10 people that said they would like to redraft, or wouldn't mind if we did. I don't recall seeing input from the other 2. I realize it is a bit last-minute at this point, but I think it could happen. I think the consensus was as long as we keep the same order.
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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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I would totally be down for that if the draft didn't get all mucked up. Starting a keeper league the year more the half the people's teams were auto drafted is not appealing. If we wanted to redraft then maybe. I also had the idea that we could redraft, but take not of current rosters, and if after the redraft the 5 people who originally made the first draft are down to continue we can go from there. If not, no buggy we just stick with the original rosters. I don't think we'll find a solution that pleases everyone, I'm just throwing out ideas. Also want to point out this is the only league I'm in that has drafted so far. The wife used my account to join a "family" league, but other than that I have like 4 drafts coming up in the next 5 days...
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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Someone previously mentioned the idea of doing a keeper league with like two keepers after this season. I agreed with the statement with this idea in mind. I think we have 9 teams returning from last season, which would be enough for a franchise, right? |
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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I'll swap you Tannehill if he interests you more with Nick Foles' old QB coach running the show.
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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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I'll give anyone Worthlessbeger. As a Washington native I refuse to have any Stealer players. Also I dislike the man for his lack of character...
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Half of us autodrafted and only one trade so far? Come on guys.
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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It's all good. Honestly, only reason I was peeved was that this is the computers game for me
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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I understand that. I just explained why it is a poor idea and a random draw is more fair. The entire idea of reverse ranking drafting is predicated on on creating parity based on the idea that successful teams in year N will also be successful in year N+1. This is unfounded and more just plain wrong. It sets up perverse incentives. Teams tank, dump players in trades to tank when they're out of the playoffs. |
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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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It is my fault for not resetting the draft time to allow for more time to get things figured out. The default setting was overlooked, I am sure more people would have shown up if they had just known about it. Currently we'll be sticking with what we have unless a general consensus can be achieved. As for side pots/next years draft order I am going to come up with something tonight and post it for weekly side pots. We can determine there worth/value before, or even during the season, but at least we'll have the system in place. Last year there was a suggestion that the winner chose an album for the rest of us to review, or something to that extent (side pots that year never came to be). There is also the weekly pick 'em were you try to predict the weekly outcomes of the head to head match ups of the league players. That is more for fun and a lot of people wind up forgetting but perhaps we could use those for tiebreakers if a tie does occur for side pots (overall total or on the rare occasion two players score identical points on a given week)
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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I'm fine either way, but I really would say we should not re-draft. Would be a bit unfair and hey, is our fault ultimately for missing it.
Seems many others are pretty neutral to somewhat not for it so I say let's just roll with what we got. Though if a re-draft is done, well I'll be sure to pre select my players just in case I miss it again
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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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I think what was meant was that draft order next year would be reverse of the standing. Like the NFL does. So lsat place team would get first pick and first would get last....
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TheProgtologist ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
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I don't care if we redraft,but if we don't I'm cool with that too.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Drafting according to the NFL makes no sense. There's no issue of parity since we're not a keeper league. I won the league last year, but before drafting I did not have any of the players which won me the league last year.
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