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Tom Ozric
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Topic: The "Big Six": 1969 Posted: August 16 2014 at 20:41 |
Took a bit of thought, but Crimso out of this lot.
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SquonkHunter
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Posted: August 16 2014 at 20:33 |
In The Court Of The Crimson King without question. No comparison really. While elements of Prog were being kicked around by others for a few years prior, this is where it all came together and actually became Prog.
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Posted: August 16 2014 at 20:10 |
King Crimson, In the Court of the Crimson King.
Edited by proggman - August 16 2014 at 20:10
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Posted: August 13 2014 at 08:12 |
ITCOTCK is of course a classic but I'll be going for one of the Floyd options (a Nice Pair they are too). The live disc of Ummagumma is by some way the best disc amongst these, it is totally outstanding with each track miles better than the studio versions - a sure fire sign of a great live album. However the studio album, whist fabulous in parts really is all over the place. That leaves More, a wonderfully atmospheric and spacey masterpiece. I know it's not popular but it's always been a big favourite of mine, one of those albums that you love whilst nobody else seems to rate it. More gets the vote (it needs it!!)
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Posted: August 13 2014 at 02:11 |
One for Ummagumma
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Posted: August 13 2014 at 01:57 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
ole-the-first wrote:
richardh wrote:
ole-the-first wrote:
King Crimson by a mile.
People who believe it's underrated just dont get that it was the shape-former of the whole prog genre. There would be literally no progressive rock without this album, despite of all the proto-prog records from 196769
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actually you are mistaken as someone would have done an album like this eventually. Music was going this way. Fripp is not a some musical prophet but rather he was just able to process what was happening and decipher it in a coherent way. It was certainly a big bold statement that made a massive impact and helped other bands to establish themselves. Was it the most important album of that time? Yes certainly but it didn't create new music. IMO
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Not necessarily. I believe there could've been something different without Crimso's debut LP, but one has to have real talent and some special feeling of music for picking up the ingredients to create a finished genre, not just another tendency.
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I think of it like this: Remove In the Court... from modern music history and progressive rock would have ended up as something else than what we consider it to be. Remove any, or all of the other titles in the poll and it wouldn't really have made much of a difference at all. |
sorry I remain unconvinced although it was very important. Would Tarkus have happened if Court hadn't? Possibly but then only because Greg Lake wouldn't have met Keith Emerson not because Emerson couldn't have though it up. Remember he did Ars Longa Vita Brevis a year before Court.
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 20:29 |
ITCOCK. I'd go with Hot Rats if it were a choice.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 17:25 |
ole-the-first wrote:
richardh wrote:
ole-the-first wrote:
King Crimson by a mile.
People who believe it's underrated just dont get that it was the shape-former of the whole prog genre. There would be literally no progressive rock without this album, despite of all the proto-prog records from 196769
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actually you are mistaken as someone would have done an album like this eventually. Music was going this way. Fripp is not a some musical prophet but rather he was just able to process what was happening and decipher it in a coherent way. It was certainly a big bold statement that made a massive impact and helped other bands to establish themselves. Was it the most important album of that time? Yes certainly but it didn't create new music. IMO
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Not necessarily. I believe there could've been something different without Crimso's debut LP, but one has to have real talent and some special feeling of music for picking up the ingredients to create a finished genre, not just another tendency.
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I think of it like this: Remove In the Court... from modern music history and progressive rock would have ended up as something else than what we consider it to be. Remove any, or all of the other titles in the poll and it wouldn't really have made much of a difference at all.
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 17:13 |
As ITCOTCK will win for sure I'll vote fore another great album - Stand Up
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 15:08 |
Yet another one for In the Court...
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 11:09 |
Ummagumma for me.
In the Court.., while a historically important album - is nothing more than a 3* album to me. I'm not going to feed the overrated argument towards it.
Edited by Horizons - August 12 2014 at 11:09
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ole-the-first
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 09:41 |
richardh wrote:
ole-the-first wrote:
King Crimson by a mile.
People who believe it's underrated just dont get that it was the shape-former of the whole prog genre. There would be literally no progressive rock without this album, despite of all the proto-prog records from 196769
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actually you are mistaken as someone would have done an album like this eventually. Music was going this way. Fripp is not a some musical prophet but rather he was just able to process what was happening and decipher it in a coherent way. It was certainly a big bold statement that made a massive impact and helped other bands to establish themselves. Was it the most important album of that time? Yes certainly but it didn't create new music. IMO
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Not necessarily. I believe there could've been something different without Crimso's debut LP, but one has to have real talent and some special feeling of music for picking up the ingredients to create a finished genre, not just another tendency.
Edited by ole-the-first - August 12 2014 at 10:43
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 07:38 |
Crimson by far.
That album outclasses everything else on that list imo.
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 05:23 |
ole-the-first wrote:
King Crimson by a mile.
People who believe it's underrated just dont get that it was the shape-former of the whole prog genre. There would be literally no progressive rock without this album, despite of all the proto-prog records from 196769
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 There would be literally no overrating without such a statement, in spite of all the attempts to do so with this album that inundated PA since 2004.
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 05:10 |
The only one on this list that reached number 1 on the UK album charts.
Most would know what that album is.
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 04:57 |
Ummagummagumma first, then Stand Up.
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Posted: August 12 2014 at 01:19 |
ole-the-first wrote:
King Crimson by a mile.
People who believe it's underrated just dont get that it was the shape-former of the whole prog genre. There would be literally no progressive rock without this album, despite of all the proto-prog records from 196769
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actually you are mistaken as someone would have done an album like this eventually. Music was going this way. Fripp is not a some musical prophet but rather he was just able to process what was happening and decipher it in a coherent way. It was certainly a big bold statement that made a massive impact and helped other bands to establish themselves. Was it the most important album of that time? Yes certainly but it didn't create new music. IMO
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Posted: August 11 2014 at 23:34 |
^^^ I disagree and it's most definitely not underrated
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Posted: August 11 2014 at 22:28 |
King Crimson by a mile.
People who believe it's underrated just dont get that it was the shape-former of the whole prog genre. There would be literally no progressive rock without this album, despite of all the proto-prog records from 196769
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Posted: August 11 2014 at 22:22 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Mirror Image wrote:
Hnrz wrote:
ITCOTCK is overrated, Stand Up for me! |
Overrated? How? I don't really see how any prog album could be overrated? I mean the genre is already on the fringes of popular music. |
Mirror, he means overrated within the Prog genre and I happen to agree with him |
I can't stop thiking how much I dislike the use of the word overrated. I guess most people who use it just mean they don't really like an album that is generally accepted as great... but in the end it sounds (at least to me) as if you were saying that you are right and everybody else who likes said album are wrong. Just as a poll I read a while ago about "The Yes Album", which most people love and I just don't get it, but that's just about as much as I would say, that I don't like it, or it hasn't clicked with me... or perhaps I could say that I don't understand why people like it so much. But call it overrated would be disrespectful for the people who like it.
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