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yam yam
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:23 |
I didn't care much for the vocals either, it must be said - 'distinctive' was how I described them earlier...but I thought musically the album was excellent (albeit, as has been correctly pointed out, very derivative of other bands who used a lot of mellotron back in the day - such as BJH, The Moody Blues, early KC etc.) Let's see if anyone from the Prog Folk team comments first (I can't personally see the band being admitted there tbf though), and if nothing transpires I'll ask someone from the Crossover team to have a listen to it. That way at least the band will get its chance - and the team will either vote them in, or they won't.
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Svetonio
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:14 |
chopper wrote:
It's hard to put into words, it's just that for me it has the feel of a demo tape. There's nothing particularly wrong with it, it's just that there are a lot of bands around who are so much better.Try Camelias Garden for instance, they're in a different league imo.
Then again, it's just my opinion. |
Ok chopper, thank you for contribution! 
p.s. I have been suggested Camelias Garden.
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:10 |
It's hard to put into words, it's just that for me it has the feel of a demo tape. There's nothing particularly wrong with it, it's just that there are a lot of bands around who are so much better. Try Camelias Garden for instance, they're in a different league imo.
Then again, it's just my opinion.
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:07 |
chopper wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
chopper wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including thewar crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer) Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?
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Which sub-genre you suggest? Just curious. | If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out |
What's the problem with this music exactly? IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me. | Exactly, it's just your opinion, I thought it was fairly amateurish. Of course, my opinion won't stop them being added if you can find a team to accept them. |
"fairly amateurish"? LOL you must be kidding. You can love it (guitar work, or that way of singing, etc.) or not, but this debut is recorded in a professional manner without a question.
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That's not what I meant. |
Oh, sorry! Hey, what you meant exactly? I'm really curious, 'cause I'm listening to The Wistman Tales right now and thought that the album is actually a masterpiece by that contemporary band who do it very originally in ''retro' style.
Edited by Svetonio - July 04 2014 at 13:09
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 12:56 |
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ExittheLemming wrote:
^ one of the cornerstones of PA is that even irredeemably sh*te Prog has to be admitted i.e it's never a qualitative appraisal
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He knows that. |
Yes I do. I have no problem with them being admitted, I'm just saying I didn't really like it.
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 12:55 |
Svetonio wrote:
chopper wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer) Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?
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Which sub-genre you suggest?
Just curious. | If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out |
What's the problem with this music exactly? IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me. |
Exactly, it's just your opinion, I thought it was fairly amateurish. Of course, my opinion won't stop them being added if you can find a team to accept them. |
"fairly amateurish"? LOL you must be kidding. You can love it (guitar work, or that way of singing, etc.) or not, but this debut is recorded in a professional manner without a question.
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That's not what I meant.
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Svetonio
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:48 |
chopper wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer) Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?
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Which sub-genre you suggest?
Just curious. | If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out |
What's the problem with this music exactly? IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me. |
Exactly, it's just your opinion, I thought it was fairly amateurish. Of course, my opinion won't stop them being added if you can find a team to accept them. |
"fairly amateurish"? LOL you must be kidding. You can love it (guitar work, or that way of singing, etc.) or not, but this debut is recorded in a professional manner without a question.
Edited by Svetonio - July 04 2014 at 11:07
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:23 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ one of the cornerstones of PA is that even irredeemably sh*te Prog has to be admitted i.e it's never a qualitative appraisal
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He knows that.
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:05 |
^ one of the cornerstones of PA is that even irredeemably sh*te Prog has to be admitted i.e it's never a qualitative appraisal
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 09:13 |
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer) Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?
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Which sub-genre you suggest?
Just curious. | If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out |
What's the problem with this music exactly? IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me. |
Exactly, it's just your opinion, I thought it was fairly amateurish. Of course, my opinion won't stop them being added if you can find a team to accept them.
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 08:56 |
I loathe the singer and it sounds derivative of everything this band would probably profess to love in 70's Prog music i.e. like I said before , even though you might adore the French accent, adopting same doesn't make ya French.
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 08:50 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?
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Which sub-genre you suggest? Just curious. | If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out |
What's the problem with this music exactly?
IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me.
Edited by Svetonio - July 04 2014 at 08:56
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 08:43 |
Svetonio wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?
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Which sub-genre you suggest? Just curious. |
If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 07:53 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?
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Which sub-genre you suggest? Just curious.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 07:43 |
Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 07:17 |
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I listened to this yesterday and had to turn it off after a few minutes, sadly not that impressive, but from the little I did hear, I wouldn't call it folky at all. |
If the Prog Folk Team find this stuff not enough folky, then the Neo Prog Team would take it to evaluate IMO.
Edited by Svetonio - July 04 2014 at 07:17
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 07:13 |
I listened to this yesterday and had to turn it off after a few minutes, sadly not that impressive, but from the little I did hear, I wouldn't call it folky at all.
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 03:33 |
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yam yam
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Posted: July 03 2014 at 18:11 |
Yep - this is a superb find indeed! Not sure where it would best fit though.  Certainly plenty of mellotron here - and some pretty juicy guitar solos too...Take away the quite distinctive vocals and I could imagine these compositions as part of a vintage Barclay James Harvest album. We have those boys in Crossover - which is where I imagine this might eventually find its home too. Added to progfreak main database anyway: http://progfreak.com/Napier-s-Bones-159310.html. It's down to the evaluation teams now.
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Posted: July 03 2014 at 15:08 |
apps79 wrote:
Good discovery, not very folkish though, they sound like if King Crimson recorded ''In the court of the crimson king'' the past week! |
Thank you for contribution, apps79 
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