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Topic: Napier's Bones (UK) for Crossover Prog

Posted By: Svetonio
Subject: Napier's Bones (UK) for Crossover Prog
Date Posted: July 03 2014 at 14:14

Napier's Bones are a UK band that take the Classic Prog-Rock sound as a foundation
and build upon it to create their own challenging and extended form of progressive rock music.
Their focus is firmly on dramatic storytelling with subject matter capable of resonating with the listener today.
Music that references the past but is very much of the here and now.
Their primary musical influences include the great bands of some forty years ago but also span more recent trends in rock, electronica and modernist classical music.
Every Napier's Bones track will take the listener on an emotional musical and lyrical journey, passing through dark and introspective territory en-route to resolution and deliverance. https://www.facebook.com/napiersbonesband" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/napiersbonesband

Napier's Bones are:

Gordon Midgley

Nathan Jon Tillett

http://napiersbones.bandcamp.com/album/the-wistman-tales" rel="nofollow - http://napiersbones.bandcamp.com/album/the-wistman-tales

This collection of songs will take the listener on an emotional musical and lyrical journey, passing through dark and introspective territory en-route to resolution and deliverance.

released 03 July 2014
Music, Lyrics & Production © Gordon Midgley 2014
Vocals : Nathan Jon Tillett
Artwork & Logo © Napier's Bones 2014

https://soundcloud.com/napiers_bones" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/napiers_bones

https://soundcloud.com/gordon_m" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/gordon_m

https://soundcloud.com/nathanjontillett" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/nathanjontillett

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Posted By: apps79
Date Posted: July 03 2014 at 14:59

Good discovery, not very folkish though, they sound like if King Crimson recorded ''In the court of the crimson king'' the past week!

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 03 2014 at 15:08

apps79 wrote:

Good discovery, not very folkish though, they sound like if King Crimson recorded ''In the court of the crimson king'' the past week!

Thank you for contribution, apps79 Thumbs Up

Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: July 03 2014 at 18:11

Yep - this is a superb find indeed! Not sure where it would best fit though.

Certainly plenty of mellotron here - and some pretty juicy guitar solos too...Take away the quite distinctive vocals and I could imagine these compositions as part of a vintage Barclay James Harvest album. We have those boys in Crossover - which is where I imagine this might eventually find its home too. Added to progfreak main database anyway: http://progfreak.com/Napier-s-Bones-159310.html" rel="nofollow - http://progfreak.com/Napier-s-Bones-159310.html . It's down to the evaluation teams now.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 03:33

yam yam wrote:

Yep - this is a superb find indeed! Not sure where it would best fit though.

There are some folk elements, there's not a bit of pop and / or mainstream, so I thought that the Prog Folk team may be the first who will check

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 07:13

I listened to this yesterday and had to turn it off after a few minutes, sadly not that impressive, but from the little I did hear, I wouldn't call it folky at all.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 07:17

chopper wrote:

I listened to this yesterday and had to turn it off after a few minutes, sadly not that impressive, but from the little I did hear, I wouldn't call it folky at all.

If the Prog Folk Team find this stuff not enough folky, then the Neo Prog Team would take it to evaluate IMO.

Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 07:43

Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer) Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 07:53

ExittheLemming wrote:

Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer) Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?

Which sub-genre you suggest?

Just curious.

Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 08:43

Svetonio wrote:

Which sub-genre you suggest?

Just curious.

If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out Dead

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 08:50

ExittheLemming wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?

Which sub-genre you suggest?

Just curious.

If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out Dead

What's the problem with this music exactly?
IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me.

Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 08:56

I loathe the singer and it sounds derivative of everything this band would probably profess to love in 70's Prog music i.e. like I said before , even though you might adore the French accent, adopting same doesn't make ya French.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 09:13

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?

Which sub-genre you suggest?

Just curious.

If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out Dead

What's the problem with this music exactly?
IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me.

Exactly, it's just your opinion, I thought it was fairly amateurish. Of course, my opinion won't stop them being added if you can find a team to accept them.

Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:05

^ one of the cornerstones of PA is that even irredeemably sh*te Prog has to be admitted i.e it's never a qualitative appraisal

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:23

ExittheLemming wrote:

^ one of the cornerstones of PA is that even irredeemably sh*te Prog has to be admitted i.e it's never a qualitative appraisal

He knows that.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:48

chopper wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?

Which sub-genre you suggest?

Just curious.

If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out Dead

What's the problem with this music exactly?
IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me.

Exactly, it's just your opinion, I thought it was fairly amateurish. Of course, my opinion won't stop them being added if you can find a team to accept them.

"fairly amateurish"?

LOL you must be kidding. You can love it (guitar work, or that way of singing, etc.) or not, but this debut is recorded in a professional manner without a question.

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 12:55

Svetonio wrote:

chopper wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including the war crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?

Which sub-genre you suggest?

Just curious.

If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out Dead

What's the problem with this music exactly?
IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me.

Exactly, it's just your opinion, I thought it was fairly amateurish. Of course, my opinion won't stop them being added if you can find a team to accept them.

"fairly amateurish"?

LOL you must be kidding. You can love it (guitar work, or that way of singing, etc.) or not, but this debut is recorded in a professional manner without a question.

That's not what I meant.

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 12:56

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

^ one of the cornerstones of PA is that even irredeemably sh*te Prog has to be admitted i.e it's never a qualitative appraisal

He knows that.

Yes I do. I have no problem with them being admitted, I'm just saying I didn't really like it.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:07

chopper wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

chopper wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

Thought they sucked hugely but it certainly ticks many of the Prog boxes (including thewar crimes against good taste and economy disclaimer)
Didn't hear many 'folk' elements though. more kinda pastoral, early
Crims, BJH, Moody Blues, Mellotrons R'Us, symph thang y'all. I'm
beginning to think that we are entering a time period in music where
artists such as Wobbler, Black Bonzo, Transatalantic, Steven Wilson, Big
Big Train, Flower Kings, Pond, Taproban, Areknames et al being avowedly
and referentially progressive in texture and influence, are
culpable in the artifice that imitating say, a French accent makes you
French (It doesn't) and we all should know that yeah/oui?

Which sub-genre you suggest?

Just curious.

If forced to choose, probably Crossover but that seems like a rather fudged cop out Dead

What's the problem with this music exactly?
IMO, it's a magnificent prog album, especially for 'tron lovers as me.

Exactly, it's just your opinion, I thought it was fairly amateurish. Of course, my opinion won't stop them being added if you can find a team to accept them.

"fairly amateurish"?

LOL you must be kidding. You can love it (guitar work, or that way of singing, etc.) or not, but this debut is recorded in a professional manner without a question.

That's not what I meant.

Oh, sorry! Hey, what you meant exactly? I'm really curious, 'cause I'm listening to The Wistman Tales right now and thought that the album is actually a masterpiece by that contemporary band who do it very originally in ''retro' style.

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:10

It's hard to put into words, it's just that for me it has the feel of a demo tape. There's nothing particularly wrong with it, it's just that there are a lot of bands around who are so much better.

Try Camelias Garden for instance, they're in a different league imo.

Then again, it's just my opinion.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:14

chopper wrote:

It's hard to put into words, it's just that for me it has the feel of a demo tape. There's nothing particularly wrong with it, it's just that there are a lot of bands around who are so much better.

Try Camelias Garden for instance, they're in a different league imo.

Then again, it's just my opinion.

Ok chopper, thank you for contribution! Thumbs Up

p.s. I have been suggested Camelias Garden.

Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:23

I didn't care much for the vocals either, it must be said - 'distinctive' was how I described them earlier...but I thought musically the album was excellent (albeit, as has been correctly pointed out, very derivative of other bands who used a lot of mellotron back in the day - such as BJH, The Moody Blues, early KC etc.) Let's see if anyone from the Prog Folk team comments first (I can't personally see the band being admitted there tbf though), and if nothing transpires I'll ask someone from the Crossover team to have a listen to it. That way at least the band will get its chance - and the team will either vote them in, or they won't.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 13:30

Oh and regarding that use of mellotron at this stunning album, the fans of that fantastic instrument can hear so beautiful choir 'tron at the track no. 4 titled http://napiersbones.bandcamp.com/album/the-wistman-tales" rel="nofollow - Room 237 .

Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: July 05 2014 at 20:23

I listened to the entire album today and don't hear anything to suggest Prog Folk is the right place. There are a few folk-like passages, not unlike what you can hear on albums from the likes of Opeth, Green Carnation and the like, but the sound seems like Neo done with some throwback instrumentals. It would be best if Neo took a look at them IMHO.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 06 2014 at 00:23

ClemofNazareth wrote:

I listened to the entire album today and don't hear anything to suggest Prog Folk is the right place. There are a few folk-like passages, not unlike what you can hear on albums from the likes of Opeth, Green Carnation and the like, but the sound seems like Neo done with some throwback instrumentals. It would be best if Neo took a look at them IMHO.

Thank you, ClemofNazareth! the thread title is changed Thumbs Up

Posted By: apps79
Date Posted: July 06 2014 at 10:49

Will give this a look guys Thumbs Up

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace...

listen to www.justincaseradio.com , the first ever Greek Progressive Rock radio

Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: July 06 2014 at 13:38

Evaluation link (added to Neo Prog chart): http://progfreak.com/Napier-s-Bones-159310.html?path=pa/recent" rel="nofollow - http://progfreak.com/Napier-s-Bones-159310.html?path=pa/recent .

Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 04:59

Two 'move' votes cast, with just Damox left to go (who I'm sure will follow suit), so it's looking as though Crossover will be the team that decides the fate of Napier's Bones after all. Will continue to monitor developments, and post updates here as and when they happen (if nobody from the team does, that is).

Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 12:20

As much as I don't like this album, it would probably best fit into Crossover.

With better production and a different vocalist, it could be good.

Let's start a new sub-genre: "Retro-Prog" (no. don't)

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Posted By: apps79
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 17:21

For your information me and Matti voted actually for eclectic, there are strong orchestral elements with powerful Mellotron, FLOYD-ian touches and heavier flashes in this album and I fail to detect any accesible, poppy or easy-listening pieces, which are closer to Xover principles.

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace...

listen to www.justincaseradio.com , the first ever Greek Progressive Rock radio

Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 18:11

My vote is for Crossover, not Eclectic.

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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 18:25

Wow! - The plot thickens!

I'd never even considered Eclectic for these guys to be perfectly honest. So...Up to yet we've had; Prog Folk, Neo, Crossover (x2)...and now Eclectic (x2) as a suggested home for Napier's Bones. I guess it's probably all gonna boil down to which team wants to be the next in the queue the most!

Scott has alread hinted here that Crossover might well be worth a punt, but the guys from the Eclectic team rarely seem to pass through these parts of late, so a note in their team thread will be needed if that is indeed where the Bones are gonna be headed next.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 18:33

The thread title is changed to Crossover Thumbs Up

Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: July 14 2014 at 17:03

And cleared...In Crossover - with four straight 'yes' votes.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 15 2014 at 00:34

yam yam wrote:

And cleared...In Crossover - with four straight 'yes' votes.

Posted By: O666
Date Posted: July 15 2014 at 09:20

Crossover is a good choice. This isn't important that we like them or not. They are a Prog Rock band absolutely(IMO). Personally I dont like their music. I dont like their vocals and production (some guys said that before) but this is not about Rate or Rating. Thanks

Posted By: apps79
Date Posted: July 15 2014 at 11:47

yam yam wrote:

And cleared...In Crossover - with four straight 'yes' votes.

great, very talented band Cool

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When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace...

listen to www.justincaseradio.com , the first ever Greek Progressive Rock radio

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 15 2014 at 13:08

O666 wrote:

Crossover is a good choice. This isn't important that we like them or not. They are a Prog Rock band absolutely(IMO). Personally I dont like their music. I dont like their vocals and production (some guys said that before) but this is not about Rate or Rating. Thanks

Well, the voice like that one can like or not. Personally, I have no problem with the singer's theatrical voice.
However, regarding that production, I think that they didn't produced it bad, I think that they didn't do any mistake on the record production. They actually produced their album in a retro style and some kind of , say, "wall of sound" would only to destroy that pure magic of Napier's Bones' magnificent debut.

Posted By: O666
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 09:41

Svetonio wrote:

Well, the voice like that one can like or not. Personally, I have no problem with the singer's theatrical voice.
However, regarding that production, I think that they didn't produced it bad, I think that they didn't do any mistake on the record production. They actually produced their album in a retro style and some kind of , say, "wall of sound" would only to destroy that pure magic of Napier's Bones' magnificent debut.

Yes. This is my opinion. I listened to their album 3 times. Its not boring for me but their music rate is 2-2.5 star IMO. They are a "Prog Rock" band if I like or don't like them.

Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 18 2014 at 05:12

An amazing video..

...for the lovers of Mellotron and Surrealism Smile

Posted By: Duke of Rother
Date Posted: September 27 2014 at 06:06

Just come across this album and I really like it.

The vocals are rather different but sometimes different is good, as here.

Have to say reading the contributions from July I found the pomposity of ExittheLemming rather extraordinary. Came across as a total t**t.

The attitude was everything I detest about up their own arse music snobs.

Posted By: Napier's Bones
Date Posted: March 11 2015 at 11:07

Brand new Concept Album from Napier's Bones now released !

https://napiersbones.bandcamp.com/album/tregeagles-choice" rel="nofollow - https://napiersbones.bandcamp.com/album/tregeagles-choice

It's free to stream or download in a choice of formats plus it comes with "print at home" CD inlays with new artwork, gatefold cover and track listings for those that like a physical copy.

Hope some of you enjoy :)

Napier's Bones