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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 06:20
The empire was going to crumble one way or another.  I suspect we still would have become independent and wound up about where we are now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 07:02
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Yeah but... roasted marrow?


Gawd, it chills me to the very erm...marrow. Lower case punishment for the stroppy assimilated proles I say. (I blame the ex facto parents)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 07:08
I have had roasted marrow actually - stuffed with haggis; tastes better than it sounds (seasoning is the key)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 07:12
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I have had roasted marrow actually - stuffed with haggis; tastes better than it sounds (seasoning is the key)


deep fried marrow?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 07:59
^^^ He's not Scottish..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 08:30
I imagine the US would be more like Canada or Australia, then, at least in terms of legal and political system.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 08:54
We who live in the US would all be better off, except a few. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 09:22
Oh right - marrow as in the overblown courgette, not marrow as the innards of a bone. 

You eat that roasted and stuffed with haggis?


That's taking being a glutton for punishment to a whole new level.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 09:30
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

We might all have to watch soccer.    And real football, American football, the kind of football that MEN play...


Pah!

All that armour, 97 people on each team, none of whom are on the pitch for more than 30 seconds, played in quarters not halfs & so boring they have to have teams of pretty ladies jumping up & down on the sidelines to keep the crowd amused

American football is just rugby for pansies!



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Rugby? Isn't that that game where you throw a ball in the middle of the field and release packs of wild dogs to chew on each other for possession of the ball?

I'll give you Brits this, you don't do anything by half measures. It's either so slow it could be used as a sedative (soccer) or it's downright brutal and anarchy on the field.

Some pretty ladies on the field jumping up and down might make soccer a tad more interesting.   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 11:27
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

We might all have to watch soccer.    And real football, American football, the kind of football that MEN play...
 

Pah! 

All that armour, 97 people on each team, none of whom are on the pitch for more than 30 seconds, played in quarters not halfs & so boring they have to have teams of pretty ladies jumping up & down on the sidelines to keep the crowd amused 

American football is just rugby for pansies! 

  

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Rugby? Isn't that that game where you throw a ball in the middle of the field and release packs of wild dogs to chew on each other for possession of the ball? 

I'll give you Brits this, you don't do anything by half measures. It's either so slow it could be used as a sedative (soccer) or it's downright brutal and anarchy on the field. 

Some pretty ladies on the field jumping up and down might make soccer a tad more interesting.    
The Rugby is hampered by the same problem that 'Mercan Football has - the ball itself.

The original Murderball (now the name for wheelchair rugby) used a medicine ball (size of a basket ball, weights something like 20 lbs and does not bounce) instead of an inflated pig's bladder and disposed of the rule-book completely. The aim was to get the ball into the opponents goal "by any means".

There is a version of the game that dispenses with the notion of the "ball" completely called British Bulldog, or just Bulldog, as seen here featuring players from the British Lions and the NZ All Blacks:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 11:37
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Oh right - marrow as in the overblown courgette, not marrow as the innards of a bone. 

You eat that roasted and stuffed with haggis?


That's taking being a glutton for punishment to a whole new level.



Marrow *yuk*

Marrow stuffed with Haggis *now you're talking*

Probly wouldn't eat the marrow bit though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 14:10
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

^^^ He's not Scottish..


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 14:17
Marrow, last thing I saw, is a vegetable. So even if it was deep fried, the Scots wouldn't eat it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 19:53
Probably very similar to it is now, except for few minor changes of course (Queen as Official head of State)...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 21:21
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Oh right - marrow as in the overblown courgette, not marrow as the innards of a bone. 

You had it right the first time-- I should've said kidney pie or something  Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 21:42
and I guess we'd have this, whatever this is  LOL  (thanks Blacksword)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 21:45
If Britain had won the War, we'd probably have to be more specific about which war we were talking about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2014 at 21:57
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:



*Pandas are just bears with eye makeup


That made me laugh out loud LOL

If we had won? there wouldn't be a world series restricted to just local teams, no politician would be dumb enough to showboat through the empire in an open top limousine, your cheese and chocolate would taste like cheese and chocolate, Dream Theatre would be spelt (NOT spelled) correctly, Michael Jackson would have been dyed black and institutionalized* (and f*cking 'American English' would be considered a war crime against language), Jim Carey and Adam Sandler would have been beaten into renal failure by a baying but discerning mob with an overwhelming mandate for clemency, John Lennon would still be alive and Mark Chapman would be starring as the parasite that lives in your colon in a documentary about consumer resource interactions, Jimi Hendrix would be converted from ex-pat to local hero, another really sh*t national anthem would have been avoided, a billion would mean a million million and a trillion would mean a million million million because some obscure outpost of the commonwealth clearly can't count (or spell), neither your beat cop or petty criminal scum would be armed, fighting in a jungle environment completely alien to our troops like say, Vietnam would have never been countenanced and a bill of rights that deems sacrosanct the right to keep and bear arms (or arm bears, you choose) has been instrumental in the avoidance of mass random and motiveless slayings in high schools, educational establishments and places of higher learning.
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Of course the Untied States of America would not exist at all, Canada would run the entire Atlantic coast from Baffin Island down to Florida and its western border would follow the Appalachian Mountains, the next bit heading west would be Native America, then Spanish of some form, and finally the South and West Coast would be Mexican. Alaska would still be Russian and Hawaii an independent state (though they'd still have the Union flag as part of the design of their national flag).

Having won the 7 Years' War, (which included the French and Indian wars) and suppressed the American Uprising (sorry, history would not have recorded it as a "war"or a "revolution"), which would have further humiliated the French, who were directly to blame for both conflicts. This would have dramatically increased France's national debt and sparked the French Revolution sooner, but this time Britain (and possibly Spain) would have stepped in to aid Louis XVI instead of just sending Lesie Howard to rescue a few nobs and so France would still be a monarchy, albeit just a titular one. Therefore the French Revolutionary Wars and Napoleonic Wars would not have happened thus halting the spread of Republicanism that ultimately led to the Russian Revolution. Which would also have removed the major impetus of the Agricultural and Industrial Revolutions - that is "total warfare". Industrialisation would still have happened, but at a much slower pace and probably not with Britain at its centre - thus Europe and the American colonies would have remained predominately rural and agricultural, and without that, so would the rest of the world. 

Without concept of "total warfare" WW1 would not have escalated as quickly or as globally as it did. France, Russia and Britain would still have supported Serbia, and Germany would have supported  Austria-Hungary, but on a much smaller scale and confined to the Balkans - the war would have been the short war everyone had predicted it to be. The result of which would not have been an armistice so the Treaty of Versailles would not have put reparation debt on Germany - net result being - no Hitler and no WW2. Also a shorter, lower scale war would not have destabilised Russia so no Revolution of 1917 and the Romanov dynasty would still be in power. 

The technical innovations resulting from WW2 would not have happened when they did, computers, radar, jets, rockets and atom bombs would still have been invented, but not as quickly, similarly without the Russian Revolution and nuclear weapons there would have been no Cold War, no Space Race and no Moon landing so the spin-off innovations resulting from that would have been a lot slower coming. It also means that the State of Israel would not exist and neither would the Vatican City State. 



*sorry, I'm rambling ... suffering from insomnia tonight for some reason.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2014 at 00:04
It's so long ago it's hard to say, but I'd suppose Dean has the right of it in a large way.

In the end though, America was probably inevitably going to fall out of British hands. If not by that "uprising" then another. I bet a few great American thinkers, notably Jefferson, would have been executed for treason.

It would possibly send ripples through time affecting the French revolution, assuming of course there wasn't another more successful American revolution 20 years down the line.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2014 at 00:09
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

We might all have to watch soccer.    And real football, American football, the kind of football that MEN play, might never have been invented.   

Real football?? No, it's not real football 'tis a load of sCensored


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - June 27 2014 at 00:09
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