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Hands down Bill Bruford is the Godfather of Prog Rock Drumming. Look back on his entire career and tell me another drummer who took the chances he took. And not just changing bands; but adding bells, chimes, tongue drums, electronic percussion used harmonically! The guy was an innovator. Very little he did was not topshelf. There were certainly more bottom heavy drummers than Bill and all around drummer could be disputed for days. But, Bruford was a genuine innovator.
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Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Hands down Bill Bruford is the Godfather of Prog Rock Drumming. Look back on his entire career and tell me another drummer who took the chances he took. And not just changing bands; but adding bells, chimes, tongue drums, electronic percussion used harmonically! The guy was an innovator. Very little he did was not topshelf. There were certainly more bottom heavy drummers than Bill and all around drummer could be disputed for days. But, Bruford was a genuine innovator.


Carl Palmer did pretty much all those things before Bruford
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I don't know if I'd say greatest, but I want to give special recognition to Mattias Olsson of Anglagard. He's a personal favorite of mine, and has such a tremendous wealth of diversity and musicality in his playing. What's also nice is you can track a strong development in his technical prowess. Comparing the rudimental work on Hybris and Viljans Oga, it's clear as day that he's obviously been practicing a lot in the interim between their earlier and more recent albums.
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Billy Cobham
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Hands down Bill Bruford is the Godfather of Prog Rock Drumming. Look back on his entire career and tell me another drummer who took the chances he took. And not just changing bands; but adding bells, chimes, tongue drums, electronic percussion used harmonically! The guy was an innovator. Very little he did was not topshelf. There were certainly more bottom heavy drummers than Bill and all around drummer could be disputed for days. But, Bruford was a genuine innovator.


Carl Palmer did pretty much all those things before Bruford
 
 
Carl Palmer was classically trained and yes played all the percussion instruments. But Palmer was never the drummer or innovator Bruford was. Does Palmer have better chops, yes. But again not the innovator Bruford was. Look how Bruford evolved through his last working stuff playing with Jazz greats like Ralph Towner and doing it so authentically that even the Late Great Max Roach praised him as a drumming innovator. Carl Palmer still plays ELP, PM and Atomic Rooster material. Where's the evolution in that?
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Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Hands down Bill Bruford is the Godfather of Prog Rock Drumming. Look back on his entire career and tell me another drummer who took the chances he took. And not just changing bands; but adding bells, chimes, tongue drums, electronic percussion used harmonically! The guy was an innovator. Very little he did was not topshelf. There were certainly more bottom heavy drummers than Bill and all around drummer could be disputed for days. But, Bruford was a genuine innovator.


Carl Palmer did pretty much all those things before Bruford
 
 
Carl Palmer was classically trained and yes played all the percussion instruments. But Palmer was never the drummer or innovator Bruford was. Does Palmer have better chops, yes. But again not the innovator Bruford was. Look how Bruford evolved through his last working stuff playing with Jazz greats like Ralph Towner and doing it so authentically that even the Late Great Max Roach praised him as a drumming innovator. Carl Palmer still plays ELP, PM and Atomic Rooster material. Where's the evolution in that?

Palmer was innovative when he did Toccata and the drumming on Tarkus.Evolution occurred when it needed to.

You might be amused by a comment made by Steve Howe yesterday during a gig I was at (Steve Howe Trio , Swindon). He talked about Close To The Edge and said 'Bill left for Crimson because the album was too commercial. Got a laugh naturallyLOL
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

You might be amused by a comment made by Steve Howe yesterday during a gig I was at (Steve Howe Trio , Swindon). He talked about Close To The Edge and said 'Bill left for Crimson because the album was too commercial.'


I didn't think Steve had it in him. I'd sooner expect that from Wakeman.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Hands down Bill Bruford is the Godfather of Prog Rock Drumming. Look back on his entire career and tell me another drummer who took the chances he took. And not just changing bands; but adding bells, chimes, tongue drums, electronic percussion used harmonically! The guy was an innovator. Very little he did was not topshelf. There were certainly more bottom heavy drummers than Bill and all around drummer could be disputed for days. But, Bruford was a genuine innovator.


Carl Palmer did pretty much all those things before Bruford
 
 
Carl Palmer was classically trained and yes played all the percussion instruments. But Palmer was never the drummer or innovator Bruford was. Does Palmer have better chops, yes. But again not the innovator Bruford was. Look how Bruford evolved through his last working stuff playing with Jazz greats like Ralph Towner and doing it so authentically that even the Late Great Max Roach praised him as a drumming innovator. Carl Palmer still plays ELP, PM and Atomic Rooster material. Where's the evolution in that?

Palmer was innovative when he did Toccata and the drumming on Tarkus.Evolution occurred when it needed to.

You might be amused by a comment made by Steve Howe yesterday during a gig I was at (Steve Howe Trio , Swindon). He talked about Close To The Edge and said 'Bill left for Crimson because the album was too commercial. Got a laugh naturallyLOL
 
Oh for sure Palmer is excellent, he's one of my favorites ever no doubt. Bruford was a strange fellow indeed. I too heard that Bruford said Yes was getting too commercial, but if you read Bill's book, he clearly explains that the process of putting a Yes tune together was becoming far too structured for his liking. Structure in music to Bill is capsulized as commercialism. His point being that unstructured free-improvisation would be contrary to commercialism and so allow greater freedom for his creativity versus "this goes for 2 bars here and then that for 1 bar and then play this pattern 4 times and go to hit this bell or that drum there". As a drummer of over 40 years, I can see his point , a bit. He definitely did not like everything so precise that nothing is left to chance. To each his own.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Hands down Bill Bruford is the Godfather of Prog Rock Drumming. Look back on his entire career and tell me another drummer who took the chances he took. And not just changing bands; but adding bells, chimes, tongue drums, electronic percussion used harmonically! The guy was an innovator. Very little he did was not topshelf. There were certainly more bottom heavy drummers than Bill and all around drummer could be disputed for days. But, Bruford was a genuine innovator.


Carl Palmer did pretty much all those things before Bruford
 
 
Carl Palmer was classically trained and yes played all the percussion instruments. But Palmer was never the drummer or innovator Bruford was. Does Palmer have better chops, yes. But again not the innovator Bruford was. Look how Bruford evolved through his last working stuff playing with Jazz greats like Ralph Towner and doing it so authentically that even the Late Great Max Roach praised him as a drumming innovator. Carl Palmer still plays ELP, PM and Atomic Rooster material. Where's the evolution in that?

Palmer was innovative when he did Toccata and the drumming on Tarkus.Evolution occurred when it needed to.

You might be amused by a comment made by Steve Howe yesterday during a gig I was at (Steve Howe Trio , Swindon). He talked about Close To The Edge and said 'Bill left for Crimson because the album was too commercial. Got a laugh naturallyLOL
 
Oh for sure Palmer is excellent, he's one of my favorites ever no doubt. Bruford was a strange fellow indeed. I too heard that Bruford said Yes was getting too commercial, but if you read Bill's book, he clearly explains that the process of putting a Yes tune together was becoming far too structured for his liking. Structure in music to Bill is capsulized as commercialism. His point being that unstructured free-improvisation would be contrary to commercialism and so allow greater freedom for his creativity versus "this goes for 2 bars here and then that for 1 bar and then play this pattern 4 times and go to hit this bell or that drum there". As a drummer of over 40 years, I can see his point , a bit. He definitely did not like everything so precise that nothing is left to chance. To each his own.
 
 
 

I understand that it was bold decision by Bruford for sure although I think Yes did actually move in his direction with Tales which was less structured than the previous two albums. Somewhat ironic when you think about it. 
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10. Neil Peart (Rush)
9.Bill Bruford (Yes, King Crimson)
8. Carl Palmer (Emerson, Lake & Palmer)
7. Andy Ward (Camel)
6. Michi Dei Rossi (Le Orme)
5. Phil Collins (Genesis)
4. Franz Di Cioccio (PFM)
3. Barriemore Barlow (Jethro Tull)
2. John Weathers (Gentle Giant)
1. Clive Bunker(Jethro Tull)
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Hello everyone. I'm writing here with some hope that people will recognize this tune/drummer. A friend of mine recorded me a mix tape a looong time ago and I have no record or recollection of who this artist/song is called.
HELP!!!
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https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/TheUnknownSong.mp3?_subject_uid=117506101&w=AACg2-Q9LIEseobbo-5SmP0EeMcdT2GkkFl8g5t22bc13Q
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http://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/TheUnknownSong.mp3?_subject_uid=117506101&w=AACg2-Q9LIEseobbo-5SmP0EeMcdT2GkkFl8g5t22bc13Q

Posting a proper link in the hope that someone else may be able to access it, but as it's a Dropbox file it's asking me to log in!
I do have a Dropbox account but even after signing in I can't access this.
Not the right place to put this request anyway.


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Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by deafmoon deafmoon wrote:

Hands down Bill Bruford is the Godfather of Prog Rock Drumming. Look back on his entire career and tell me another drummer who took the chances he took. And not just changing bands; but adding bells, chimes, tongue drums, electronic percussion used harmonically! The guy was an innovator. Very little he did was not topshelf. There were certainly more bottom heavy drummers than Bill and all around drummer could be disputed for days. But, Bruford was a genuine innovator.


Carl Palmer did pretty much all those things before Bruford
 
 
Carl Palmer was classically trained and yes played all the percussion instruments. But Palmer was never the drummer or innovator Bruford was. Does Palmer have better chops, yes. But again not the innovator Bruford was. Look how Bruford evolved through his last working stuff playing with Jazz greats like Ralph Towner and doing it so authentically that even the Late Great Max Roach praised him as a drumming innovator. Carl Palmer still plays ELP, PM and Atomic Rooster material. Where's the evolution in that?
Bill Bruford has retired. Where's the evolution in that?
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How long has this poll been going on? I say Gene Kruppa. Pre proto prog BCT. (before color television)

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

How long has this poll been going on?

It was resurrected by dgerio today to post his question.
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