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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 03:55
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

I just returned from a two week trip to US and I would strongly disagree with such a statement based on my experience.  FWIW, I found the airport staff at American airports, including the busy O Hare and JFK, much more cheerful and friendly than the downright grumpy Heathrow.    
At SF airport the friendly staff kindly pulled me from the back of a very long queue and cheerfully re-arranged and re-packed the contents of my luggage in a more tidy and ordered fashion before sending me merrily on my way. I can recommend dressing-up as a Gothic Hippy if you want to be fast-tracked through airport security. And yes, everyone at Heathrow is a grumpy sod.

...having spent too many hours in too many airports they all tend to blur into one. I do however dislike the intrusive unfriendliness of the USA's security checks - I'm surprised they don't take DNA and urine samples before letting you in.


While I mentioned Heathrow, in my mind I compared the friendliness of staff in those American airports with those back in India, where everybody wears this permanent scowl, no matter the reason or season.  It is considered insane to smile at a stranger in India so to that extent, America was a refreshing change while Heathrow felt a bit more familiar (perhaps also because many of the airport staff were of Indian or sub continental origin and old habits die hard).  

I did find the security check intrusive.  But on the other hand, we live in fear of terrorist attacks all the time here and find the security procedures very lax compared to USA.  My grandpa's eyedrops (packed in hand baggage) easily cleared the security check at Mumbai but Heathrow nabbed it and took a long time before they let us go.  Didn't take any bribes and didn't harass us, though.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 04:13
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

 

While I mentioned Heathrow, in my mind I compared the friendliness of staff in those American airports with those back in India, where everybody wears this permanent scowl, no matter the reason or reason.  It is considered insane to smile at a stranger in India so to that extent, America was a refreshing change while Heathrow felt a bit more familiar (perhaps also because many of the airport staff were of Indian or sub continental origin and old habits die hard).  

I did find the security check intrusive.  But on the other hand, we live in fear of terrorist attacks all the time here and find the security procedures very lax compared to USA.  My grandpa's eyedrops (packed in hand baggage) easily cleared the security check at Mumbai but Heathrow nabbed it and took a long time before they let us go.  Didn't take any bribes and didn't harass us, though.
I've never travelled to India but I understand from my colleagues that do that bribery is a matter of course when passing through Indian airports, they have to take more "corporate gifts" such as logo-ed pens and key-rings than they need just to get through security. On one visit to Bangalore the payment was taken in cheap cotton bags with the company logo on that they were going to give out at a trade fare for people to put brochures in... the irony being those bags were made in India then shipped to the UK for printing...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 04:15
I think America has a great culture, be that a pretty young culture. The 40s and 50s gave away two of my favourite things in jazz and the beatniks, but then again those are infinitely small pockets within the humungous parka coat that is the US. That's your strong suit though. The 1000s of different peoples that make up the country.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 04:21
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

 
I've never travelled to India but I understand from my colleagues that do that bribery is a matter of course when passing through Indian airports, they have to take more "corporate gifts" such as logo-ed pens and key-rings than they need just to get through security. On one visit to Bangalore the payment was taken in cheap cotton bags with the company logo on that they were going to give out at a trade fare for people to put brochures in... the irony being those bags were made in India then shipped to the UK for printing...

LOL   Surprisingly, we didn't have to pay anything this time when we returned home with plenty of goodies from USA.  Maybe because Mumbai airport is now under private management and they don't want to lose money because it takes too long to 'turn around' passenger traffic.  Otherwise, people used to reserve a couple of hours after arrival in an Indian airport for baggage collection and customs harassment.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 04:28
What you people need is your own boat. Cut the airports out of the equation, swoosh!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 04:29
Yeah, and good luck getting a 'licence to ride it around the sea unless you are a terrorist. Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 04:34
Make that an invisibility cloak instead then:-P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 04:39
Hahar - and be careful of the Pirates who will bump you off and take your goodies.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 05:49
The US gave way for quite a bit Wink. Whenever I speak of the US I am of course talking about the US of the People not Corporations. Here are some examples



    



Check out those nice zoot suits, eh? We have no culture, smh!


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Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 06:23
America has come along way from the world saying, all you need is love, to HipHop and "rap" screaming "You filthy Ho" Rap and hip hop never got out of the 1980's any way. It seems like blacks had found something hiphop and rap' whites won't go near, and even if it is sh*te music, the youth hold on to it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 06:24
Different strokes for different folks eh?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 07:02
^^^ Indeed.  I don't really like rap/hip hop but hey, if somebody else does, great.  For Afro Americans in 1970s New York, it probably played a similar rock as rock for whites in the 60s and was an outlet of expression.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 07:20
Then where does Eminem sit ?? He ain't African-American, and he's not behaving like a white folk, so that makes him yet another try-hard dick in my books.
In fact, give me DMC or the Beasties over Eminem any day.....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 07:24
Or maybe it simply reflects that, like blues, hip hop has grown from what was essentially an Afro American music  to something more widely embraced and liked.  Psy is neither white nor black, in fact he is just Korean.  Um, I don't think we get to choose the culture of our time, it just happens and our like or dislike of it has little bearing on whether it is good or bad.  And to repeat a point I made, to me the ability of a person to be at least considerate to another who has brought no harm to him is a more important reflection of culture than whether he listens to classical or hip hop.  If one is a classical aficionado and terribly arrogant and rude, I don't think I could respect such a person or regard him/her as cultured.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 10:27
Friendliness is ok but I don't like the extreme, kind of hypocrite, ultra-friendliness of some people; I feel like they're trying to always sell me something.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 10:29
Especially if they are colleagues that would stab you in the back to get ahead.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 11:08
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Anger = waste of time, energy and thought. 


Someone's in need of apathy management?Ermm

Not at all, guv'!Tongue  I have been to the nadir and climbed back into the sunshine. My nature is actually quite sensitive but learned from tragedies to master the negatives and transform them into positives. Anger is a waste of time because its ultimately nothing more than a self-imposed decision. (I can explain further, should you wish) 

Me apathetic? My goodness Exit, you are one of the wisest men here, have you ever read any of my reviews? LOL
Perhaps someone is in need of a little more Buddhist philosophy?Approve 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 16:34
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Anger = waste of time, energy and thought. 


Someone's in need of apathy management?Ermm

Not at all, guv'!Tongue  I have been to the nadir and climbed back into the sunshine. My nature is actually quite sensitive but learned from tragedies to master the negatives and transform them into positives. Anger is a waste of time because its ultimately nothing more than a self-imposed decision. (I can explain further, should you wish) 

Me apathetic? My goodness Exit, you are one of the wisest men here, have you ever read any of my reviews? LOL
Perhaps someone is in need of a little more Buddhist philosophy?Approve 


OK, calling you apathetic was probably unwarranted but I was just pointing out that unchallenged bad behavior can escalate to become a much wider ranging social malaise. Parents who fail to control their children is a good example of how ignoring bad behavior can lead to some uber obnoxious adults. Destructive anger is clearly no use to man nor beast but it is anger that serves as the catalyst for much positive change and the righting of many civil wrongs. You're right though, I do have a short fuse but at least I'm not a suicide bomber for a peace loving religion Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 16:48
I think thinking that words don't have consequences is pretty immature, and we all know that's a lot coming from me. And I think complaining about your corrupt society, regardless of how true that may be, is pretty ironic when he's an American.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2014 at 16:55
Originally posted by weetabix weetabix wrote:

America has come along way from the world saying, all you need is love, to HipHop and "rap" screaming "You filthy Ho" Rap and hip hop never got out of the 1980's any way. It seems like blacks had found something hiphop and rap' whites won't go near, and even if it is sh*te music, the youth hold on to it.


I get the impression that you've barely listened to any rap before, and that you're probably kind of racist.
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