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richardh

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Posted: January 16 2014 at 16:13

Glass Hammer

Gordon Giltrap and Oliver Wakeman

and I enjoy David Minasian , Nick Magnus , Big Big Train

occasionally I take a trip on the wild side with Kansas or Kayak Big smile

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Posted: January 16 2014 at 17:01

I really like this dad-prog. Maybe I should also say that I am not a dad.

Edited by proggman - January 17 2014 at 20:04

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
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To find a land beyond the night.

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Posted: January 16 2014 at 22:53

Hopefully soon to be added to PA, Lost Kite is some real dad prog, being the product of a father/son team!

Listening to Fanfare & Fantasy right now, FWIW!

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 00:47

I've always thought of dad-prog as falling more in place with dad-rock or like cheap art rock.

Pink Floyd is the perfect dad-prog band imo: progressive but radio friendly. Money the dad-prog anthem. Songs with that kind of accessible quirkiness dads use to impress their 13 year old kids.

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 03:06

M27Barney wrote:

Roj wrote:

Count me in Tongue

. Great idea for a thread.Can I nominate Big Big Train, and especially EE Part 2, the epitome of pipe-and-slippers prog.

I am going to have to buy that now - I have part I which wasn't too memorable on the first spin - I am going to have a re-spin me-thinks.

Rob, I'd recommend you to definitely not buy EE Part2. It's nowhere near as good as Part 1. Apart from the opening track it's pretty lame and watered down in comparison. If you didn't like Part 1 then Part 2 is a total no no. Part 2 is a real step down after the quality of their last 3 releases, in my humble opinion.

Whilst BBT fit the bill perfectly, my post was not meant to be complimentary of Part 2 which is as I pipe-and-slippers prog, as opposed to dad prog Wink

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 05:35

I listened to part I last night and I was far more impressed than I was for the first spin that's for sure. I also took out Lifesigns and will have to listen to the Shadow Circus that I found whilst filing away the new one I'd bought. I still have a couple of dozen CD's that I haven't spun! And probably 100 that I have spun just once!!!

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 05:41

My dad favorites are U2 and Talking Heads. Nowadays, he listen to Foo Fighters and Red Hot Chilli Peppers.

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 12:24

Well, The Flower Kings can't qualify, as they are so far the only band I've played for my 12 year old son that didn't get a negative reaction. His exact words were, "this music isn't too bad Dad". Usually he asks me to turn it down / off / switch to his favorite radio station.

As to Dad Prog in general, I applaud this thread! Though I'm not really a fan of much of what is being categorized here as Dad Prog, I do like IQ (who certainly fit that category), but they are my one concession to Neo Prog.........the rest I find terribly dull.

I have listened to the Fanfare & Fantasy CD (loaned to me from a friend), and so far it does nothing for me and strikes me as "typical" Neo Prog.

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 12:26

The Flower Kings pretty much sums up dad-prog for me, but then again that's just me.

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 12:31

A non Dad trying to describe the pinnacle of Dad prog, what are you going to do with these whippersnappers^

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 12:37

This Dad is really not a fan of dad-prog.

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Posted: January 17 2014 at 12:38

^but he sorta gets the gist of the term?

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Posted: January 18 2014 at 02:42

Oh, a Dad prog moment from Alan Parsons Project. "What shall we do now the kids have left home" - has that vibe to it, from Eye In The Sky.

I suppose it's a good thing. (Un)fortunately I'm a non parent (afaik) I cannot be truly, madly sure so I s'pose that fits... Smile

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Posted: January 18 2014 at 02:54

richardh wrote:

occasionally I take a trip on the wild side with Kansas or Kayak Big smile

Kayak, yes, those young'uns don't always know how to appreciate a band like that.

Not wildly innovating, no, but does it always have to be? (Hum)

In this rat race which we see so often in life, shouldn't prog be an oasis of calmness?

Mind you, those Kayakians know how to rock.

But even their calmer albums have beauty in it (e.g. Phantom Of The Night)

And they did a unique thing... they started a second career once their children were out of the house.

At least then you have time to develop your music.

Because music needs to develop calmly, those youngsters don't always realize!

All those modern bands which keep releasing albums with more than an hour music on it...

Long live the slow movement...

Easy does it (hum)...

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Posted: January 18 2014 at 03:08

Pretty much Yes' `Fly From Here' and Crimson's `Scarcity of Miracles' define dad-prog for me. So `bland' and `pleasing'....

I do listen to them once in a while, amd I don't actually think they're bad as such, just....

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Posted: January 18 2014 at 04:05

rushfan4 wrote:

I think that a good chunk of Neo, modern Symphonic, and a dose of crossover would all fit under the dad-prog banner. Currently listening to Magenta's The Twenty Seven Club and this certainly fits the bill.

I've listened to quite a few of these dad-prog, but I soon wipe their names from my memory... For example this occured when I listened to Magenta's SEVEN (The Instrumentals) album, the only song I could retain was an instrumental version of "Envy" with it's "calm down" melody, and from The Twenty Seven Club I listened to two songs and can not even remember their names too..

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Posted: January 20 2014 at 11:28

Guldbamsen wrote:

The Flower Kings pretty much sums up dad-prog for me, but then again that's just me.

Huh, that seems odd to me. They are not "smooth" or predictable (unless you don't really listen to their albums from start to finish....if you just take the tunes that are most popular from them, you might think this I guess) . They delve into multiple genres, from jazz to avant guard, blues to classical, German ambient to mainstream pop.

Of course, all of this is just opinion from both of us.

However, I got into the Flower Kings when I was still in my 20's and had no children or a wife. Therefore, they don't qualify as dad-prog Wink

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Posted: January 20 2014 at 11:29

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother

Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Pretty much Yes' `Fly From Here' and Crimson's `Scarcity of Miracles' define dad-prog for me. So `bland' and `pleasing'....

I do listen to them once in a while, amd I don't actually think they're bad as such, just....

Have yet to hear the Fripp 'Scarcity of Miracles' (it's not a King Crimson album, never was meant to be anyway), but I think a better genre for Fly From Here would be Geriatric Prog Wink

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Posted: January 21 2014 at 00:58

Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Pretty much Yes' `Fly From Here' and Crimson's `Scarcity of Miracles' define dad-prog for me. So `bland' and `pleasing'....

I do listen to them once in a while, amd I don't actually think they're bad as such, just....

No, you're right. FFH is uninspiring. There's that one nice part in the second-longest song, but could it be because that's the one thing touched by Oliver W. on the entire album, or...? The title "epic" is forgettable and some stuff on the album is downright embarrassing. It's not even as good as Talk.

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Posted: January 21 2014 at 10:25

I still haven't got the first CoE CD yet....might be coming from ulan-bator or some where like that! I think that a lot of more modern symph/neo prog bands are sort of in horns of a dilemma ! - Do they do stuff very 70's derivative and get slaughtered! or do they try and be more experimental and produce a pile of horse-sh*t....(This is because I just don't like experimental stuff - this is a very dad-proggish way of looking at it I suppose.)