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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 13:26
There's actually some versions of the album that have tracks that were recorded before the proper album("that's me" and "one eyed hound" among others). These "bonus" tracks are actually less poppy and more prog sounding than what was on the proper album. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 13:39
Not bad, has a few standouts, In the Beginning, especially. But how can such an unmatured debut compare to it's staggeringly more developed sequel
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 14:18
Trespass is the first proper Genesis album, FGTR is a "Jonathon King" creation and he is a loathsome human being by all accounts, it's not got much to it and compare it to Trespass - ATTWT and Duke are far better examples of Genesis though by that time they were sliding inexorably into the eighties pop-dirge that they were going to serve up - Me and Sarah Jane....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 14:56
Saying "Trespass" is the first proper Genesis album is like saying "the Yes Album" is the first proper YES record. The band still wrote all the songs on FGTR. YES didn't even write every song for their first two. Either way FGTR was the first Genesis album(and YES was the first Yes album).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 15:09
And The Final Cut is not Roger's first solo album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 17:07
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

And The Final Cut is not Roger's first solo album.

how so?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 21:39
FGTR was far from the best Genesis album but it’s like apples and oranges, since they changed so drastically afterwards. Peter used a more conventional vocal style but on some tracks, especially In the Wilderness, you can hear traces of his more familiar style emerging. The singles tracks added to later versions brought up the overall quality, especially A Winter’s Tale and One Eyed Hound.

A bit of trivia: The short instrumental intros were a great touch, and the one preceding The Serpent was later rewritten and expanded upon and eventually became Twilight Alehouse.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 22:27
I was so freaked out by the album when I first heard it that I was scared to listen to it for a while afterwards. In fact, it made me put off buying Trespass because I figured it would be similar. I remember when I finally heard Trespass I had the covers over me. Smile 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 22:38
Trespass was the first Genesis I bought in college. When it first came out I saw it at  local record store and thought it had an interesting cover. I didn't even know there was an LP before that. I bought Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme before I knew there was an even earlier one. At any rate.....FGTR has some nice tracks on it but the band really came into their own on those later albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2013 at 23:48
I really like it.  * * * * / * * * * * 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2013 at 18:13
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I like it a lot, certainly more than anything after Wind and Wuthering, but I cannot say it is better than any of them because it is not, thanks mainly to the perfunctory string arrangements that King put all over it. I prefer the earlier versions of the songs that appear on the Genesis Archive 1967-75.


Agreed on every point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2013 at 01:46
I was listening to the Deep Tracks station on Satellite radio the other day, and The Knife came on. What a great song, I can't believe I had never gotten around to hearing it before. Now I need to go buy Trespass.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2013 at 03:45
Originally posted by Metalmarsh89 Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Now I need to go buy Trespass.

What on Earth are you waiting for ???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2013 at 06:38
Originally posted by Metalmarsh89 Metalmarsh89 wrote:

I was listening to the Deep Tracks station on Satellite radio the other day, and The Knife came on. What a great song, I can't believe I had never gotten around to hearing it before. Now I need to go buy Trespass.

This is a bit redundant, but ... you haven't heard Trespass ?! What else?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2013 at 21:09
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Metalmarsh89 Metalmarsh89 wrote:

I was listening to the Deep Tracks station on Satellite radio the other day, and The Knife came on. What a great song, I can't believe I had never gotten around to hearing it before. Now I need to go buy Trespass.

This is a bit redundant, but ... you haven't heard Trespass ?! What else?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2014 at 20:46
^ Accurate point about the string arrangements on FGTR. As it is it compares favorably to the Bee Gees’ 1st, the Left Banke’s 1st, and the Zombies’ Odessey and Oracle, among others. None of which is a slam, BTW.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:42
^ You mean "slam dunk"?
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I like it a lot, certainly more than anything after Wind and Wuthering, but I cannot say it is better than any of them because it is not, thanks mainly to the perfunctory string arrangements that King put all over it. I prefer the earlier versions of the songs that appear on the Genesis Archive 1967-75.
Damn ... I should get the compilation.


Edited by Dayvenkirq - March 28 2014 at 22:44
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