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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 11:28
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Cool

I've heard about him, and his band, but never checked them out. What would you say would be a good starting point for EBB?

Well you can't go wrong with either of their first 3 albums imo. They are however quite, let's just say unique soundingLOL

The selftitled:

Sing Brother Sing:

Wasa Wasa:

I started out with Sing Brother Sing, which absolutely blew me away. Then again, I'm also very much into the psychedelic bluesy side of Captain Beefheart.
Here's the "intro" tune to the album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3RCog3gVPw


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 11:45
There always will be underrated and overrated albums. What's so special with DSOTM? that album is, let's say, a prog mainstream. I recall that the guys and gals, who weren't lovers of Progressive Rock at all, were owned a copy; FM radio DJs were playing DSOTM so much at late in the evening, etc. After decades, that album is still to be a representative of Prog for the masses and that's ok, there ought to be an album like DSOTM; it's historical necessity. But, it's also overrated in comparision with the great prog albums who are accepted by prog audience only.
On other side, e.g. Family's Family Entertainment the album is shamefuly underrated even in prog circles. 






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 12:35
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Here's the "intro" tune to the album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3RCog3gVPw
I liked that! Will check out those albums when I get a chance. Thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 12:53
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

There always will be underrated and overrated albums. What's so special with DSOTM? that album is, let's say, a prog mainstream. I recall that the guys and gals, who weren't lovers of Progressive Rock at all, were owned a copy; FM radio DJs were playing DSOTM so much at late in the evening, etc. After decades, that album is still to be a representative of Prog for the masses and that's ok, there ought to be an album like DSOTM; it's historical necessity. But, it's also overrated in comparision with the great prog albums who are accepted by prog audience only.
On other side, e.g. Family's Family Entertainment the album is shamefuly underrated even in prog circles. 
These albums are rated exactly as they are rated - they are appreciate by those that like them exactly as they should be appreciated. Family are a f_cking marvellous band, much loved by those of us who knew their music back in the day -  and yes it would have been wonderful if more people got to hear them back in the 60s and 70s, it would have been brilliant if they'd been successful in the USA, and it would be simply adorable if more people could like them now - but history didn't happen like that and life doesn't happen like that. BUT they were well known and pretty popular in Britain in the late 60s / early 70s, Roger Chapman's vocal style influenced Peter Gabriel, Ian Anderson, Ian Gillan and Fish and they even managed to chart a couple of albums and some four or five singles, which is a damn fine achievement for such an "underrated" band... they just never recorded that one killer album. And the whole music industry is littered with bands like that, almost as many as all the bedroom funsters you can find on Bandcamp in a week. The real irony is that if somehow Family had managed to produce that breakthrough killer album that was as good as all the good bits from Doll House, Enterainment, Anyway, A Song For Me and Fearless - and that had sold millions and everyone on the planet had a copy in their iTunes iCloud iPhat and Charlie Whitney would be wondering where to park his fifteenth Lambourgini - all the little prog-trollies would be saying it's "overrated".
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 12:55
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:


There always will be underrated and overrated albums. What's so special with DSOTM? that album is, let's say, a prog mainstream. I recall that the guys and gals, who weren't lovers of Progressive Rock at all, were owned a copy; FM radio DJs were playing DSOTM so much at late in the evening, etc. After decades, that album is still to be a representative of Prog for the masses and that's ok, there ought to be an album like DSOTM; it's historical necessity. But, it's also overrated in comparision with the great prog albums who are accepted by prog audience only.

Accepted by prog audience only? Man, I hope I'll never go there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 15:26
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

As pointed out some 9573907820589 times - there's no such thing as overrated. There's albums out there that a lot of folks deem priceless, which just don't sit well with some ie "the albums that a lot of you like but I don't - therefore you've got it wrong".
I don't think there's right or wrong in music, just different tastes and opinions.

BTW, who's that in your avatar? First I thought it was that quy from the A=MH2 cover (Chris Hutchison?), but it's Edgar Broughton, right?

I'm with you on that, and it was kinda my point with the post. Infusing terms like 'right' and 'wrong' into music is ludicrous. I was just being overtly perfidiousSmile

And yes, you're quiet right, it's Edgar Broughton. The British Captain BeefheartBig smile

I love OORA, very underrated
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 15:44
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

There always will be underrated and overrated albums. What's so special with DSOTM? that album is, let's say, a prog mainstream. I recall that the guys and gals, who weren't lovers of Progressive Rock at all, were owned a copy; FM radio DJs were playing DSOTM so much at late in the evening, etc. After decades, that album is still to be a representative of Prog for the masses and that's ok, there ought to be an album like DSOTM; it's historical necessity. But, it's also overrated in comparision with the great prog albums who are accepted by prog audience only.
On other side, e.g. Family's Family Entertainment the album is shamefuly underrated even in prog circles. 


First off you understand the meaning of subjective right? Secondly there was no progressive rock tag as such in the 70's and yes people who bought Fleetwood Mac Rumours or Bruce Springsteen's Born to run or even Talking Heads 77 probably owned DSOTM as well more so than NC which became a bigger seller long after it's initial release. And being around in that ' current' decade gives me the right to say that it had nothing to do with mainstream. Simply put many record labels gave the bands freedom to express themselves. I risk being shot at here but my guess is that you were born late 80's or even the 90's? And if you did not experience the 70's when it happened, no pigeonholing or genre tagging will help and yes it may well be easier to glibly say both albums are overrated. Now if you come back to me and say you were born in the 60's I want proof of D.O.B and I'll eat my left shoeSmile To be really honest I cannot agree that DSOTM is representative of prog to the masses, it is repesentative of being a musical masterpiece, irrespective of tags.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 22:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2013 at 23:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 02:56

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

She looks like one of those ancient Greek sculptures - only much more alive though.

Yes ... Peter Driben is criminally underrated artist Wink

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I started out with Sing Brother Sing, which absolutely blew me away.
I like their 3rd album. It was one from first my LPs and I have nostalgic relation to it.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 03:29
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:


There always will be underrated and overrated albums. What's so special with DSOTM? that album is, let's say, a prog mainstream. I recall that the guys and gals, who weren't lovers of Progressive Rock at all, were owned a copy; FM radio DJs were playing DSOTM so much at late in the evening, etc. After decades, that album is still to be a representative of Prog for the masses and that's ok, there ought to be an album like DSOTM; it's historical necessity. But, it's also overrated in comparision with the great prog albums who are accepted by prog audience only.

Accepted by prog audience only? Man, I hope I'll never go there.
Is e.g. Relayer accepted by all that crowd outside of Progressive Rock audience as DSOTM aswell? Or  e.g. The Power And The Glory? or Pawn Hearts, Trespass, Lark's Tongues In Aspic and so on?  Of course not! And there must be some reason for that. IMO, DSOTM is pseudo-psych album who allowed a wide audience to mock venture in "psych" ("soul") while turn out their lights and smoking a pot. And as I said above, it was ok. But, if we leave that social and historical component of DSOTM' success story aside, there is nobody who can convince me that DSOTM is not highly overrated album in comparision with above examples.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 03:43
Originally posted by progresssaurus progresssaurus wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

She looks like one of those ancient Greek sculptures - only much more alive though.

Yes ... Peter Driben is criminally underrated artist Wink


He was referring to Jim (Finnforest), not me (who isn't called Jim and never will be).

And specifically, Jim's avatar:
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 05:13
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

People who bought Fleetwood Mac Rumours or Bruce Springsteen's Born to run or even Talking Heads 77 probably owned DSOTM as well 
 
Finaly : They are talking about me, on PA Thumbs Up
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 05:34
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

 
He was referring to Jim (Finnforest), not me (who isn't called Jim and never will be).
He was referring to Jim (Finnforest), but about beautiful girl in your sig mentioned indirectly by Chris S.
But I am not sure Smile 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 05:54
Originally posted by progresssaurus progresssaurus wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

 
He was referring to Jim (Finnforest), not me (who isn't called Jim and never will be).
He was referring to Jim (Finnforest), but about beautiful girl in your sig mentioned indirectly by Chris S.
But I am not sure Smile 
I'm very sure. Chris complimented Jim on the beautiful women in his sig, which Jim acknowledged with a Thumbs Up, David (Guldbamsen) immediately followed that with the Greek Goddess comment (referring to Jim's Avatar because Jim's sig image was not of the female form then). I was not part of that exchange, none of which refers to the 1950s pin-up girl in my sig. 


(and yes the original is by Peter Driben, I used it as clip-art and just moved her arm a little to the right so it fitted on the Prog Archives logo better, I have never claimed to be the artist of that cartoon image)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 06:09
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I'm very sure. 

I believe you, that you are very sure. I am not sure. But I am true.
Maybe.

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


(and yes the original is by Peter Driben, I used it as clip-art and just moved her arm a little to the right so it fitted on the Prog Archives logo better, I have never claimed to be the artist of that cartoon image)

I like your signature, because it looks better then some generally overrated ancient Greek sculptures. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 06:37
Originally posted by progresssaurus progresssaurus wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I'm very sure. 

I believe you, that you are very sure. I am not sure. But I am true.
Maybe.
You either follow the flow of conversation in the posts or you do not, there is no uncertainty or ambiguity involved.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 06:49
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

You either follow the flow of conversation in the posts or you do not, there is no uncertainty or ambiguity involved.

Yes, thanks, Dean. You are true -  relation between your signature and ancient sculptures is so evident, that David (Guldbamsen) could not write about anything else.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2013 at 07:33
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