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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2005 at 11:21
Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Geezer ....that's a pretty comprehensive list ...it appears that you rather like Italian Prog

How did you first get into this wonderful genre?


Oh boy, i luv it! It was about 5-6 years ago when I first heard Italian prog. It was the Locanda delle Fate album which I purchased blindly just because I got enthusiastic after reading many Italian prog album reviews. That album just had that something I felt was missing from everything else I had heard. It's hard to explain if you haven't experienced it. Actually, it wasn't until this experience that I really became a prog fan. After this I started to explore the Italian prog scene and little by little also many other groups from various countries. I noticed that progressive music that I like is made all over the world. I'm not limited to Italian prog in any way though it definitely is easily my favourite prog genre.

And those bands that i listed are just the icing of the cake (most of the classic stuff) because there has been a lot prog released in Italy especially in the seventies. Even today the italian prog scene is one of the most active ones though not as rewarding as in the seventies (where is it?). I have albums from quite a few other italian groups as well and of which some are very good.

So, how did you get into Italian prog? This site is great if you want to learn more about Italian groups because there is even mp3s. Do you have a mp3 player (WinAmp or Windows Media Player) in your computer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2005 at 10:04

Geezer ....that's a pretty comprehensive list ...it appears that you rather like Italian Prog

How did you first get into this wonderful genre?

I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
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geezer, all vocals are in italian except for RIP  Your suggestions are good because these albums have bee on my want list for a while  ... so nah worries, as they say here. I shall definitely be getting them soon. And no, I don't know much new Italian stuff.  In the light of my tastes so far could you recommend something? Don't worry, I won't hold you responsible for the fact that I'll be living on bread and water (whilst listening to great music ) for the rest of my days !!!!!


Some of the best new italian groups that play in the tradition of the 70's groups (PFM, Banco) are Finisterre and Malibran. Then there is a very good Finisterre side-project called La Maschera di Cera that is similar to the heavier 70's italian groups like Museo Rosenbach. You won't like this band if you don't like Museo Rosenbach.

Then there is Deus ex Machina which is more of an acquired taste because their music is kind of jazzier avant-garde progressive. They are one of the most praised contemporary groups in the world. They are quite similar to the 70's group Area.

If you have a mp3 player (you can get it for free from the net if do not have it) there is mp3's for at least these great new Italian groups in the ProgArchives band pages: Deus ex Machina, Finisterre, Malibran, Minstrel and Nuova Era. Download them and make your decision based on that!

BTW, the majority of the 70's italian groups that i mentioned in the previous post have a mp3 sample too. Those mp3's are really helpful!

Thanks for the Banco live info!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2005 at 06:36
Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:

Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Btw, I have just acquired Banco's latest release (well it was originally recorded in 1975 I think) Its a fantastic live album called Seguendo La Tracce - its really good and shows them at the height of their powers - fantastic recording quality (taken from the mixing desk) for all you audiophiles out there


This sounds really interesting. I have been thinking to acquire this one as well. Can you tell me are all the vocals in italian language?

Italian prog is the best!

geezer, all vocals are in italian except for RIP  Your suggestions are good because these albums have bee on my want list for a while  ... so nah worries, as they say here. I shall definitely be getting them soon. And no, I don't know much new Italian stuff.  In the light of my tastes so far could you recommend something? Don't worry, I won't hold you responsible for the fact that I'll be living on bread and water (whilst listening to great music ) for the rest of my days !!!!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2005 at 05:01
Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Btw, I have just acquired Banco's latest release (well it was originally recorded in 1975 I think) Its a fantastic live album called Seguendo La Tracce - its really good and shows them at the height of their powers - fantastic recording quality (taken from the mixing desk) for all you audiophiles out there


This sounds really interesting. I have been thinking to acquire this one as well. Can you tell me are all the vocals in italian language?

Italian prog is the best!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2005 at 04:49
Alusa Fallax - Intorno alla mia Cattiva Educazione

You need to get this asap! Based on the Italian groups you have mentioned i can give you a 100% guarantee that you will love this album. This album is kinda like a mix of the QVL debut and the Locanda delle Fate album. Wonderful and one of my favourites!

Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra

An absolute masterpiece! The overall sound of this album is a little heavier than the likes of Banco, Le Orme and PFM but the album alternates in mellow and heavier sections (especially in the title suite) that are simply breathtaking. The mellow sections are the most beautiful you'll hear in prog. This band has a superb drummer Giancarlo Golzi who plays like he is in acids and in many ways he is the driving wheel in the band. This album didn't hit me instantly for some reason but it became my favourite 70's album.

Maxophone - s/t

An excellent album! I don't like this album as much as the aforementioned albums but it doesn't mean that this isn't good. You would probably like this album because you like italian prog in general.


And a few extra recommendations...

Biglietto per L'inferno - s/t

This is one of my absolute faves! Again, this is little heavier like Museo Rosenbach. I recommend you to start with Museo Rosenbach and if you like it get this one next.

Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz

This album is fantastic and quite original as well. This group is led by a fantastic guitar player Michele Zarrillo whose playing is fiery and played in hard rock way. A must!

Campo di Marte - s/t

Fantastic and underrated album.

Apoteosi - s/t

Fantastic and based on your tastes you would probably like this.

Metamorfosi - Inferno

Fantastic and for some reason overlooked by some.

Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione

Fantastic and in my opinion the best interpretion of classical music. if you like classical music this is a must!


Some other similar Italian groups worth checking: Alphataurus (1st), Balletto di Bronzo (Ys), Latte e Miele, J.E.T, Osanna (Palepoli), Il Volo, Pierrot Lunaire (1st), Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno (a little jazzy), New Trolls (especially Concerto Grosso per 1)

Some other great groups but might not appeal to everyone (avant-garde, jazz fusion etc.): Area, Arti E Mestieri, Pierrot Lunaire (2nd), Picchio dal Pozzo, Pholas Dactylus


I hope this post doesn't cost you too much money. My intentions are only good.

BTW, are you familiar with new Italian groups?


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Originally posted by abyssyinfinity abyssyinfinity wrote:

Hi Felona,
Which is your favourite Italian Prog group, obviously except for Orme?

It s hard to choose a favourite but the ones I listen to most are BMS (their first 3 albums mainly), PFM - again, mainly their first three albums. Their live in japan 2002 album is highly recommended & shows they still have some chops!! ; Locanda delle Fate (shame they made only one good album); Quella Vecchia Locanda and Celeste. Btw, I have just acquired Banco's latest release (well it was originally recorded in 1975 I think) Its a fantastic live album called Seguendo La Tracce - its really good and shows them at the height of their powers - fantastic recording quality (taken from the mixing desk) for all you audiophiles out there

I am thinking about getting Maxophone (s/t) and Allusa Fallax INTORNO ALLA MIA CATTIVA EDUCAZIONE very soon ... any other suggestions gratefully received.   Banco's Live in Mexico and Nudo are currently winging their way to me from USA this week ... any thoughts on these?

Museo Rosenbach's  Zarathustra has been highly praised ... rightly so???



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 14:51
Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Originally posted by Geee Geee wrote:

Hi Felona

So you are a GIRL and like prog music?  You are sure one rare person.  One question

WILL YOU MARRY ME?

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   well, maybe ... only if you are prepared to let me spend all the housekeeping on PROG !!!

 

 

That is the least of my problems honey!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 14:48
Hi Felona,
Which is your favourite Italian Prog group, obviously except for Orme?
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Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Oh I know that, spent some time in Perth/Freemantle in the 80s when I was in the Navy. You familiar with the Emmanuel brothers? Great guitar players. [/QUOTE]


 ... actually I haven't heard of them ... should I check them out? I've only been posting a day and have spent  (mentally at least) a few hundred bucks already ..soooooo much music ... so little time ... and $$$$$$


I think the only reason I work is to fund my CD habit ... I get a bit secretive about it but at least here I can 'fess up and purge my guilt

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You might want to check them out. But they're not prog. Mostly blues oriented but very good. Just do a search on Phil Emmanuel.

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Well, I'm going to sleep...  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:03

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Oh I know that, spent some time in Perth/Freemantle in the 80s when I was in the Navy. You familiar with the Emmanuel brothers? Great guitar players.


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 ... actually I haven't heard of them ... should I check them out? I've only been posting a day and have spent  (mentally at least) a few hundred bucks already ..soooooo much music ... so little time ... and $$$$$$

I think the only reason I work is to fund my CD habit ... I get a bit secretive about it but at least here I can 'fess up and purge my guilt



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:01
If you think my fingers know what they're doing, you should see my tongue at work! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:59

Man Overboard ... you truly have the healer's touch

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:58
Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

[QUOTE=   1500 cds, huh? How long did it take for you to work-up that number? I'm only at around 800. You're hurting my male ego!  QUOTE]


thanks marktheshark for the kind welcome.  Hey, don't feel bad ... its quality not quantity that matters


It took about 5 years to get most of it  .. but probably that's when I've had the most $$$ to spare - have been collecting since I was a teenager .. and that's much more than 5 years ago


collecting music is indeed a costly, but worthy enterprise and I spend most of my $$ on it - so not much left over for girly stuff unfortunately


btw ...you'd feel at home here ... plenty of sharks  in Oz  ...



Oh I know that, spent some time in Perth/Freemantle in the 80s when I was in the Navy. You familiar with the Emmanuel brothers? Great guitar players.



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As far as the massage skills go...  there was a woman who had a chronic neck injury, herniated discs.  She couldn't afford surgery for it.  She also couldn't sleep without a double-dose of Vicodin.  I massaged her neck for 30 minutes, and she fell asleep in my arms, slept peacefully for 8 hours, and woke up feeling better than she had in years...  WITHOUT the painkillers.

My abilities at sensing what exactly needs to be done to make someone feel absolutely incredible can be inferred in many ways from that. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:50

ok ... lets see them then

If there's anyone  here who knows about your skills please let me know

actually ... a massage sounds great ... too much time spent on the PC isn't good

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:43

will this thread be struck off the list or something ... I don't want you getting banned or anything ... for making up stories

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I've got the hair...  and the smile...  and if you've seen him with a beard...

...and I can last 2-3 hours in bed without a struggle...

(the only downside of that is that it HAS to be that way...  1 hour is my lower limit...    but I also give good full-body massages )
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