female newbie here!
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Topic: female newbie here!
Posted By: felona
Subject: female newbie here!
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 21:31
Hello!
After lurking here for many months ( this site is very helpful & informative) I have decided to take the plunge & join as there aren't too many female proggers out there, not that I've seen anyway . Also, are there any Ozzies out there? Well, I'm originally from UK but have had the operation
I have been collecting prog for a few years now (about 1500 cds in total) so here's a bit of an idea of what I like ...
Classics like Yes; Genesis (esp. Gabriel era); Floyd; King Crimson ( up to 3oaPP); Tull (prefer 70's stuff) - saw them in concert last month here in Adelaide - excellent performance.
also (random selection) ... Arena; Ayreon; Asia; The Enid, Renaissance; Karda Estra; Camel ( LOVE this band) Flower Kings; Tangent; Transatlantic; Karmakanic; Kaipa & Stolt solo projects; Pendragon, Arena, IQ, Pallas; Marillion(Hogarth & Fish eras) ; Pineapple Thief; RPWL; Echolyn; Pink Floyd; Porcupine Tree; No-Man ; Opeth; Eloy; Tangerine Dream, Mostly Autumn, Karnatakata; Magenta; Glass Hammer; Big Big Train; Mike Oldfield; Peter Gabriel ; Steve Hackett; Steve Howe; Rick Wright (esp. Broken China);
Post-Rock/Experimental etc ... GSYBE; Explosions in the Sky; Mogwai; Sigur Ros; Stars of the Lid; 1 Mile North; Harold Budd; Bark Psychosis; Rothko; Labradford; Talk Talk; David Sylvian
I am especially fond of Italian Prog - PFM; Banco; Celeste; Locanda delle Fate; Le Orme .... and have recently developed a liking for Tangerine Dream (the Virgin Years mainly). I also love aussie band The Church (Kilbey writes great lyrics ...see my signature).
Others not strictly prog - Mercury Rev ... Flaming Lips. .. Sparklehorse ...XTC ..... Prefab Sprout ... Cocteau Twins .. Blue Nile .. Mojave 3 ; Arcade Fire ... .etc etc
well, maybe I like pretty much everything apart from Dream Theater ... I tried, I really did ... bought Images & Words and Scenes ... maybe I need therapy... I am just mad about music (of thr non-MTV kind)
Oh well, just thought I'd show my face at last ...hope you don't mind this long and rather boring post with me going on about my obsession ... but, I guess I'm not alone here
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 21:35
Hi Felona and welcome.
------------- Eternity
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Posted By: Poxx
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 21:37
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=43 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=43 newbie greetings forum.
Bark Psychosis, Labradford: good.
Check out Broken Social Scene for some good quality post-rock.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 21:39
yes ... I have You Forgot it in People ... great album
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: FishyMonkey
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 21:45
Welcome to the forums. Well, you're definitely on the right track, for sure. All good stuff up there!
However, being in the mood I am, I cant let this thread go without
fully recommending Pain of Salvation. They are prog metal by
definition, but in truth so much more than that. Their music is some of
the most emotional I've ever heard, and some of the best overall. Even
though you don't like Dream Theater (who I do like), don't group PoS
with them. PoS is so much more. I can't recommend them enough.
The sample for The Perfect Element is a really bad example of their
music, but the sample for Remedy Lane isn't bad. Teh albums have much
better songs though...like A Trace of Blood, Idioglossia, Chain Sling,
Rope Ends, Ending Theme, gawd they have so many good osngs. Just the
samples are all the average ones. Beyond The Pale is pretty good thoug.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 21:49
Thanks FishyMonkey for the recommendation ... I have heard of them but was put off by the metal tag. I'll check out some of their samples.
btw, have you heard of a new band Riverside from Poland ... I have heard good things about them ... in the vein of PT?
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: bamba
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 21:55
thats great you have very similar music tastes. you like post rock and the clasics and also the italian progressive move.
and 1500 cds wow its amizing.
yeah you are just like me.
------------- Learning Flute [Amigo de Manticore y Memowakeman] (primo)[IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2187/2437702285_fbb450500d_o.jpg
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 21:58
so I am not alone!!!!!
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: FishyMonkey
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 22:20
Your tastes are a bit more obscure than mine, I have to say...I haven't heard of some of those bands.
BTW, like I said, don't judge PoS by the sample Ashes. It's my least
favorite song on the album. Try to listen to a song called In The
Flesh, or Idioglossia or A Trace of Blood. And of course, Fandango and
Chain Sling.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 22:23
FishyMonkey ... by PT I was referring to Porcupine Tree ... and I guess you like them judging by your avatar!!
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: FishyMonkey
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 22:33
Oh, I kinda completely missed the PT part...yea I love PT, one of my favorite bands for sure. I'll have to check them out now!
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Posted By: frippertronik
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 22:37
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 22:40
well, I was raised on Pink Floyd, Genesis and Yes from a young and tender age by well-meaning boyfriends ... .
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 23:02
Hi Felona, welcome!
BTW, I just posted a topic on Aussie prog, which I've always wondered about ... let us know your thoughts?
See you around!
------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 23:13
Welcome Felona. Glad to have you around. We need a lady to slap us neanderthals around and put us in our place.
1500 cds, huh? How long did it take for you to work-up that number? I'm only at around 800. You're hurting my male ego!
Look forward to hearing your inputs in the forum.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 23:26
[QUOTE=
1500 cds, huh? How long did it take for you to work-up that number? I'm only at around 800. You're hurting my male ego!
QUOTE]
thanks marktheshark for the kind welcome. Hey, don't feel bad ... its quality not quantity that matters
It took about 5 years to get most of it .. but probably that's when I've had the most $$$ to spare - have been collecting since I was a teenager .. and that's much more than 5 years ago
collecting music is indeed a costly, but worthy enterprise and I spend most of my $$ on it - so not much left over for girly stuff unfortunately
btw ...you'd feel at home here ... plenty of sharks in Oz ...
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 23:52
welcome!
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 01:14
Riverside is great stuff, I've had Out Of Myself for a few months now, it's a favorite.
Good to see some Flower Kings love.
You'll fit right in... just watch out for a guy named Tony R, he
likes to administer some strange "initiations"... though you
might be safe, you're a female.
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 01:16
Welcome felona, it's great to see some girls are listening to prog
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Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 01:34
Welcome!!! Good to meet you and glad you are here. Hope you become a regular.
I like your list of music! The only group I would add to it at this moment would be Gentle Giant.
I urge you to give them a try if you haven't already. (If you have, try again ) Their album "Octopus" is a masterpiece of prog rock.
------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione
Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album)
Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific
2007:
Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 01:37
I've just downloaded a number of samples ... so will give GG a go TODAY
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 01:39
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 01:49
Something involving a Tower Of Power and a golden shower...
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Commissions considered.
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:32
felona wrote:
Thanks FishyMonkey for the recommendation ... I have heard of them but was put off by the metal tag. I'll check out some of their samples.
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It's not more metal than Ayreon, it has the same idea of lots of different sounds & styles going into it... but much less cheesy
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:34
WOW, a female progger with an even better (and varied) taste in music
than me! (Not hard to do really, but a welcome addition to the forums
nonetheless)
Welcome!
------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:35
Do let us know how you get on with Gentle Giant. They were the greatest band of all time, in my opinion.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:41
Trouserpress wrote:
Do let us know how you get on with Gentle Giant. They were the greatest band of all time, in my opinion. |
TP....
re-read your sentence:
They were the greatest band of all time, in my opinion.
Use of that superlative in the past tense????????
Re-write the statement 100 hundred times,using correect grammar,please.
Oh and welcome Felona
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:42
Tony R wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Do let us know how you get on
with Gentle Giant. They were the greatest band of all time, in my
opinion. |
TP....
re-read your sentence:
They were the greatest band of all time, in my opinion.
Use of a superlative in the past tense????????
Re-write the statement 100 hundred times,using correect grammar,please.
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...w**ker.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:44
Ok,so who are the greatest band of all time,Trousersnake?
And make your mind up:is it t***er or W***er ?
Or both..
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:49
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:52
thanks for the welcome everyone ... and especially to Tony R ... I've heard that I need to be afraid, very afraid of you. But how could I possibly fear someone who clearly adores Italian Prog ...
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:53
felona wrote:
thanks for the welcome everyone ... and especially to
Tony R ... I've heard that I need to be afraid, very afraid of you. But how could I possibly fear someone who clearly adores Italian Prog ... |
Careful now... He's a Rush fan too, you know?
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:53
Perhaps when he's chasing you down with a tub of Vaseline, shouting "I'm not gaaaay! "
...me and Gdub really screwed him up...
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:56
Aww, felona from the planet of Felona perhaps?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:56
Welcome to this place, where the gods cry and the devil laughs
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:57
flowerchild wrote:
Welcome to this place, where the gods cry and the devil laughs |
WB lad! Have a good break?
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:59
*gives flowerchild a hug*
Gonna be nice now, my son?
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:01
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:02
Good luck!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:04
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:04
Man Overboard wrote:
Perhaps when he's chasing you down with a tub of Vaseline, shouting "I'm not gaaaay! "
...me and Gdub really screwed him up...
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*says in deep,masculine voice*
In your dreams..........
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:06
Well,I posted knowing you were watching....
Honi soit qui mal y pense......
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:17
Tony, I've got a pretty deep voice too!
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:19
gosh ... it seems there's quite a bit of history between you guys ....
mmm...tubs of vaseline ... people disappearing off the forum and turning metal ... or having metal breakdowns (ouch) ... then passionate reunifications ...
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:20
Does this excite you?
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:22
felona wrote:
gosh ... it seems there's quite a bit of history between you guys ....
mmm...tubs of vaseline ... people disappearing off the forum and turning metal ... then passionate reunifications ...
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Some of them seem to take it seriously,for some reason.
You can always see my tongue.................placed firmly in cheek.
We have one or two blowhards,but they never understand why they get banned,whilst other people dont.
This is not representative of the forum Felona,have fun!!!!
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Posted By: abyssyinfinity
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:23
Hi, do you have a sister or a friend called Sorona?
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:26
abyssyinfinity wrote:
Hi, do you have a sister or a friend called Sorona? | no ... but in case anyone was at all puzzled .... I am a great fan of Le Orme
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:00
Felona - don't worry about this ongoing thread. One woman and tons of men - this can't lead anywhere. Stoneage isn't far away.
Just to say: your list has many artists I like very much, and even more
that I don't even know. But I have the same feeling about DREAM
THEATRE. Not getting it's music in my head. They lack fantasy - IMHO.
The same I have to encounter with RUSH. Very strange.
I personally like GENTLE GIANTS album "Three friends". "Octopus" ist
nice. But "Three friends" has more soul and flesh. You can bite on it.
It's good for the teeth. But it also has magic moments of lyrical width
and softness. Exciting music.
Perhaps I missed it on your list. But one of my all time prog loves is
UK "UK" with Bruford, JObson, Holdsworht and John Wetton . That
you "must" at least give a try for your own's sake. Unbelievable music.
If I had to bring a record up to the moon the deposit it as
represantative for earth music - I would choose this UK album. Of
course "Selling England" and "Close to the edge" would also do the job.
But UK UK is a decent record. It is mind buggling.
Hope I didn't steel your time.
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Posted By: Geee
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:00
Hi Felona
So you are a GIRL and like prog music? You are sure one rare person. One question
WILL YOU MARRY ME?
Cheers Geee
------------- "Just as a bell that has been rung cannot be "unrung", the annoying problem with the Truth is that, once you learn it, you can not "unlearn" it."
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:00
Let us enjoy our time here!
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:22
Geee wrote:
Hi Felona
So you are a GIRL and like prog music? You are sure one rare person. One question
WILL YOU MARRY ME?
Cheers Geee
| well, maybe ... only if you are prepared to let me spend all the housekeeping on PROG !!!
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:25
jojim wrote:
one of my all time prog loves is UK "UK" with Bruford, JObson, Holdsworht and John Wetton . That you "must" at least give a try for your own's sake.
| thank-you for the suggestion ... yes ... I'll definitely give this band a listen ... have heard good things about them, as with Gentle Giant
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:26
felona wrote:
Geee wrote:
Hi Felona
So you are a GIRL and like prog music? You are sure one rare person. One question
WILL YOU MARRY ME?
Cheers Geee
| well, maybe ... only if you are prepared to let me spend all the housekeeping on PROG !!!
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I already do! Wanna marry a strapping young 21-year-old who prefers men but has no problem with having a good time with women?
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:29
hey Man Overboard ... I'm nearly twice your age!!!!
But I'm flattered you should ask ...
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:31
The last female I was with was nearly 33... didn't have a problem there...
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:38
well Man Overboard ... if you look a teensy weensy bit like Gildenglow... maybe we can talk seriously about this ....
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:40
I've got the hair... and the smile... and if you've seen him with a beard...
...and I can last 2-3 hours in bed without a struggle...
(the only downside of that is that it HAS to be that way... 1 hour is my lower limit... but I also give good full-body massages )
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:43
will this thread be struck off the list or something ... I don't want you getting banned or anything ... for making up stories
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:45
I've got references.
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:50
ok ... lets see them then
If there's anyone here who knows about your skills please let me know
actually ... a massage sounds great ... too much time spent on the PC isn't good
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:56
As far as the massage skills go... there was a woman who had a
chronic neck injury, herniated discs. She couldn't afford surgery
for it. She also couldn't sleep without a double-dose of
Vicodin. I massaged her neck for 30 minutes, and she fell asleep
in my arms, slept peacefully for 8 hours, and woke up feeling better
than she had in years... WITHOUT the painkillers.
My abilities at sensing what exactly needs to be done to make someone
feel absolutely incredible can be inferred in many ways from
that.
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:58
felona wrote:
[QUOTE= 1500 cds, huh? How long did it take for you to work-up that number? I'm only at around 800. You're hurting my male ego! QUOTE]
thanks marktheshark for the kind welcome. Hey, don't feel bad ... its quality not quantity that matters
It took about 5 years to get most of it .. but probably that's when I've had the most $$$ to spare - have been collecting since I was a teenager .. and that's much more than 5 years ago
collecting music is indeed a costly, but worthy enterprise and I spend most of my $$ on it - so not much left over for girly stuff unfortunately
btw ...you'd feel at home here ... plenty of sharks in Oz ... |
Oh I know that, spent some time in Perth/Freemantle in the 80s when I was in the Navy. You familiar with the Emmanuel brothers? Great guitar players.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:59
Man Overboard ... you truly have the healer's touch
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:01
If you think my fingers know what they're doing, you should see my tongue at work!
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:03
[/QUOTE]
Oh I know that, spent some time in Perth/Freemantle in the 80s when I was in the Navy. You familiar with the Emmanuel brothers? Great guitar players.
[/QUOTE]
... actually I haven't heard of them ... should I check them out? I've only been posting a day and have spent (mentally at least) a few hundred bucks already ..soooooo much music ... so little time ... and $$$$$$
I think the only reason I work is to fund my CD habit ... I get a bit secretive about it but at least here I can 'fess up and purge my guilt
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:16
Well, I'm going to sleep...
(emphasis on tongue)
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:30
Posted By: abyssyinfinity
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 14:48
Hi Felona,
Which is your favourite Italian Prog group, obviously except for Orme?
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Posted By: Geee
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 14:51
felona wrote:
Geee wrote:
Hi Felona
So you are a GIRL and like prog music? You are sure one rare person. One question
WILL YOU MARRY ME?
Cheers Geee
| well, maybe ... only if you are prepared to let me spend all the housekeeping on PROG !!!
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That is the least of my problems honey!!!!!
------------- "Just as a bell that has been rung cannot be "unrung", the annoying problem with the Truth is that, once you learn it, you can not "unlearn" it."
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 20:31
abyssyinfinity wrote:
Hi Felona, Which is your favourite Italian Prog group, obviously except for Orme? |
It s hard to choose a favourite but the ones I listen to most are BMS (their first 3 albums mainly), PFM - again, mainly their first three albums. Their live in japan 2002 album is highly recommended & shows they still have some chops!! ; Locanda delle Fate (shame they made only one good album); Quella Vecchia Locanda and Celeste. Btw, I have just acquired Banco's latest release (well it was originally recorded in 1975 I think) Its a fantastic live album called Seguendo La Tracce - its really good and shows them at the height of their powers - fantastic recording quality (taken from the mixing desk) for all you audiophiles out there
I am thinking about getting Maxophone (s/t) and Allusa Fallax INTORNO ALLA MIA CATTIVA EDUCAZIONE very soon ... any other suggestions gratefully received. Banco's Live in Mexico and Nudo are currently winging their way to me from USA this week ... any thoughts on these?
Museo Rosenbach's Zarathustra has been highly praised ... rightly so???
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The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 04:49
Alusa Fallax - Intorno alla mia Cattiva Educazione
You need to get this asap! Based on the Italian groups you have
mentioned i can give you a 100% guarantee that you will love this
album. This album is kinda like a mix of the QVL debut and the Locanda
delle Fate album. Wonderful and one of my favourites!
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
An absolute masterpiece! The overall sound of this album is a little
heavier than the likes of Banco, Le Orme and PFM but the album
alternates in mellow and heavier sections (especially in the title
suite) that are simply breathtaking. The mellow sections are the most
beautiful you'll hear in prog. This band has a superb drummer Giancarlo
Golzi who plays like he is in acids and in many ways he is the driving
wheel in the band. This album didn't hit me instantly for some reason
but it became my favourite 70's album.
Maxophone - s/t
An excellent album! I don't like this album as much as the
aforementioned albums but it doesn't mean that this isn't good. You
would probably like this album because you like italian prog in general.
And a few extra recommendations...
Biglietto per L'inferno - s/t
This is one of my absolute faves! Again, this is little heavier like
Museo Rosenbach. I recommend you to start with Museo Rosenbach and if
you like it get this one next.
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz
This album is fantastic and quite original as well. This group is led
by a fantastic guitar player Michele Zarrillo whose playing is fiery
and played in hard rock way. A must!
Campo di Marte - s/t
Fantastic and underrated album.
Apoteosi - s/t
Fantastic and based on your tastes you would probably like this.
Metamorfosi - Inferno
Fantastic and for some reason overlooked by some.
Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione
Fantastic and in my opinion the best interpretion of classical music. if you like classical music this is a must!
Some other similar Italian groups worth checking: Alphataurus (1st), Balletto di Bronzo (Ys),
Latte e Miele, J.E.T, Osanna (Palepoli), Il Volo, Pierrot Lunaire (1st), Raccomandata
Ricevuta Ritorno (a little jazzy), New Trolls (especially Concerto
Grosso per 1)
Some other great groups but might not appeal to everyone (avant-garde,
jazz fusion etc.): Area, Arti E Mestieri, Pierrot Lunaire (2nd),
Picchio dal Pozzo, Pholas Dactylus
I hope this post doesn't cost you too much money. My intentions are only good.
BTW, are you familiar with new Italian groups?
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 05:01
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 06:36
Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 08:28
Some of the best new italian groups that play in the tradition of the
70's groups (PFM, Banco) are Finisterre and Malibran. Then there is a
very good Finisterre side-project called La Maschera di Cera that is
similar to the heavier 70's italian groups like Museo Rosenbach. You
won't like this band if you don't like Museo Rosenbach.
Then there is Deus ex Machina which is more of an acquired taste
because their music is kind of jazzier avant-garde progressive. They
are one of the most praised contemporary groups in the world. They are
quite similar to the 70's group Area.
If you have a mp3 player (you can get it for free from the net if do
not have it) there is mp3's for at least these great new Italian groups
in the ProgArchives band pages: Deus ex Machina, Finisterre, Malibran,
Minstrel and Nuova Era. Download them and make your decision based on
that!
BTW, the majority of the 70's italian groups that i mentioned in the
previous post have a mp3 sample too. Those mp3's are really helpful!
Thanks for the Banco live info!
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 10:04
Geezer ....that's a pretty comprehensive list ...it appears that you rather like Italian Prog
How did you first get into this wonderful genre?
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 11:21
Oh boy, i luv it! It was about 5-6
years ago when I first heard Italian prog. It was the Locanda delle
Fate album which I purchased blindly just because I got enthusiastic
after reading many Italian prog album reviews. That album just had that
something I felt was missing from everything else I had heard. It's
hard to explain if you haven't experienced it. Actually, it wasn't
until this experience that I really became a prog fan. After this I
started to explore the Italian prog scene and little by little also
many other groups from various countries. I noticed that progressive
music that I like is made all over the world. I'm not limited to
Italian prog in any way though it definitely is easily my favourite
prog genre.
And those bands that i listed are just the icing of the cake (most of
the classic stuff) because there has been a lot prog released in Italy
especially in the seventies. Even today the italian prog scene is one
of the most active ones though not as rewarding as in the seventies
(where is it?). I have albums from quite a few other italian groups as
well and of which some are very good.
So, how did you get into Italian prog? This site is great if you want to
learn more about Italian groups because there is even mp3s. Do you have
a mp3 player (WinAmp or Windows Media Player) in your computer?
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 12:23
jojim wrote:
Felona - don't worry about this ongoing thread. One woman and tons of men - this can't lead anywhere. Stoneage isn't far away.
Just to say: your list has many artists I like very much, and even more that I don't even know. But I have the same feeling about DREAM THEATRE. Not getting it's music in my head. They lack fantasy - IMHO. The same I have to encounter with RUSH. Very strange.
I personally like GENTLE GIANTS album "Three friends". "Octopus" ist nice. But "Three friends" has more soul and flesh. You can bite on it. It's good for the teeth. But it also has magic moments of lyrical width and softness. Exciting music.
Perhaps I missed it on your list. But one of my all time prog loves is UK "UK" with Bruford, JObson, Holdsworht and John Wetton . That you "must" at least give a try for your own's sake. Unbelievable music. If I had to bring a record up to the moon the deposit it as represantative for earth music - I would choose this UK album. Of course "Selling England" and "Close to the edge" would also do the job. But UK UK is a decent record. It is mind buggling.
Hope I didn't steel your time.
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no, you didn''t steal my time I always enjoy hearing from fellow music-lovers! Thanks for the great recommendations - I have listened to the GG samples and from the basis of these, I think I like will like them a lot. I have also listened to the 2 UK samples here and am very impressed as I love Wetton's voice and have always admired Bruford's work. Have you heard the new album with him & Downes called ICON? Its really rather good ... much less cheesy than the Asia output ... but which I kinda like too ... even though they aren't highly regarded here much it seems. I can understand why ... but maybe sometimes we need to have cheese with our bread !
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: abyssyinfinity
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 13:38
geezer wrote:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Alusa Fallax - Intorno alla mia Cattiva Educazione</span>
You need to get this asap! Based on the Italian groups you have
mentioned i can give you a 100% guarantee that you will love this
album. This album is kinda like a mix of the QVL debut and the Locanda
delle Fate album. Wonderful and one of my favourites!
<br style="font-weight: bold;">
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra</span>
An absolute masterpiece! The overall sound of this album is a little
heavier than the likes of Banco, Le Orme and PFM but the album
alternates in mellow and heavier sections (especially in the title
suite) that are simply breathtaking. The mellow sections are the most
beautiful you'll hear in prog. This band has a superb drummer Giancarlo
Golzi who plays like he is in acids and in many ways he is the driving
wheel in the band. This album didn't hit me instantly for some reason
but it became my favourite 70's album.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Maxophone - s/t
</span>An excellent album! I don't like this album as much as the
aforementioned albums but it doesn't mean that this isn't good. You
would probably like this album because you like italian prog in general.
And a few extra recommendations...
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Biglietto per L'inferno - s/t</span>
This is one of my absolute faves! Again, this is little heavier like
Museo Rosenbach. I recommend you to start with Museo Rosenbach and if
you like it get this one next.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz</span>
This album is fantastic and quite original as well. This group is led
by a fantastic guitar player Michele Zarrillo whose playing is fiery
and played in hard rock way. A must!
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Campo di Marte - s/t</span>
Fantastic and underrated album.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Apoteosi - s/t</span>
Fantastic and based on your tastes you would probably like this.
<span style="font-weight: bold;"></span>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Metamorfosi - Inferno</span>
Fantastic and for some reason overlooked by some.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione</span>
Fantastic and in my opinion the best interpretion of classical music. if you like classical music this is a must!
Some other similar Italian groups worth checking: Alphataurus (1st), Balletto di Bronzo (Ys),
Latte e Miele, J.E.T, Osanna (Palepoli), Il Volo, Pierrot Lunaire (1st), Raccomandata
Ricevuta Ritorno (a little jazzy), New Trolls (especially Concerto
Grosso per 1)
Some other great groups but might not appeal to everyone (avant-garde,
jazz fusion etc.): Area, Arti E Mestieri, Pierrot Lunaire (2nd),
Picchio dal Pozzo, Pholas Dactylus
I hope this post doesn't cost you too much money. My intentions are only good.
BTW, are you familiar with new Italian groups?
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Not 70's Italian groups I can rec. you:
Deus Ex Machina
A Piedi Nudi
Malibran
Sithonia (if you like BMS you must have and I personally know the guitar player...)
La Maschera Di Cera
Evil Wings (Prog Metal with English vocals, IMO they're terribly underrated, even IMO They're better than Dream Theater but they were unlucky to be Italians and not Americans...)
Finisterre
Barrock
Ezra Winston
Men Of Lake
Nuova Era
Castello di Atlante
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Posted By: nimrodel
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 14:21
felona wrote:
so I am not alone!!!!!
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no youre not. i love you. please marry me!
------------- We want... a shrubbery!
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 15:07
Well, Felona, I sure hope that's not a picture of yourself you have as your avatar. Unless you're a Polish female athlete, they usually have beards.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 18:56
nimrodel wrote:
felona wrote:
so I am not alone!!!!!
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no youre not. i love you. please marry me!
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ah ... so you like polish female athletes with beards ??? Actually I look nothing like steve hackett - He's GORGEOUS!!! If you look like him or play guitar like him then maybe we can talk ....
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 19:20
how interesting ... it was the Locanda delle Fate album that was my first purchase ... it was recommended one of those Listmania thingies on Amazon .... and I liked the artwork! Next I downloaded many samples from here, read reviews and then in no time I had built up a basic collection ... so as you can see Ive still got a long way to travel with this wonderful genre
There IS something indefinable about this music - maybe its because I don't know what the heck they're singing about (I prefer the singing in Italian) and to focus on the musical qualities of the vocals and the musical feel of the words .... there's lots of passion, intensity and great musicianship -I believe many were classically trained.
Or maybe its just because I think Italian is very sexy ....
btw .... I have just listened to Le Orme's Elementi ... THEY'RE BACK!!!!!!
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: June 14 2005 at 23:54
Hi Felona, having fun with the guys I see. How do you like it so far? I see you're into Italian prog. Being a Yank, this stuff wasn't all that widely available here in the States in my era the 70s. So I'm kinda still learning about these other sub-genres. With 1500 CDs ( ego still bruised! ) you could probably teach me a few things. Fusion was the big thing for me then and still now. How 'bout you? Basically rock and jazz are my biggest musical interests. When I mean rock, I like a lot of different other genres including blues-based as well. Whereabouts in Aus are ya?
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 15 2005 at 00:15
marktheshark wrote:
Hi Felona, having fun with the guys I see. How do you like it so far? I see you're into Italian prog. Being a Yank, this stuff wasn't all that widely available here in the States in my era the 70s. So I'm kinda still learning about these other sub-genres. With 1500 CDs ( ego still bruised! ) you could probably teach me a few things. Fusion was the big thing for me then and still now. How 'bout you? Basically rock and jazz are my biggest musical interests. When I mean rock, I like a lot of different other genres including blues-based as well. Whereabouts in Aus are ya? |
G'day/evening marktheshark. I am enjoying it very much here ... so much to chat to you guys about and also have a little fun along the way. Actually jazz/fusion is the genre I know least about so I guess you could teach ME a few things too!!!
I'm in Adelaide - where its cold, windy & rainy at the moment. Whovever promoted the myth that Oz is the land of eternal sunshine and barbies ... should to be roasted on one
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: June 15 2005 at 00:44
Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: June 15 2005 at 02:24
geezer wrote:
Alusa Fallax - Intorno alla mia Cattiva Educazione
You need to get this asap! Based on the Italian groups you have mentioned i can give you a 100% guarantee that you will love this album. This album is kinda like a mix of the QVL debut and the Locanda delle Fate album. Wonderful and one of my favourites!
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
An absolute masterpiece! The overall sound of this album is a little heavier than the likes of Banco, Le Orme and PFM but the album alternates in mellow and heavier sections (especially in the title suite) that are simply breathtaking. The mellow sections are the most beautiful you'll hear in prog. This band has a superb drummer Giancarlo Golzi who plays like he is in acids and in many ways he is the driving wheel in the band. This album didn't hit me instantly for some reason but it became my favourite 70's album.
Maxophone - s/t
An excellent album! I don't like this album as much as the aforementioned albums but it doesn't mean that this isn't good. You would probably like this album because you like italian prog in general.
And a few extra recommendations...
Biglietto per L'inferno - s/t
This is one of my absolute faves! Again, this is little heavier like Museo Rosenbach. I recommend you to start with Museo Rosenbach and if you like it get this one next.
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz
This album is fantastic and quite original as well. This group is led by a fantastic guitar player Michele Zarrillo whose playing is fiery and played in hard rock way. A must!
Campo di Marte - s/t
Fantastic and underrated album.
Apoteosi - s/t
Fantastic and based on your tastes you would probably like this.
Metamorfosi - Inferno
Fantastic and for some reason overlooked by some.
Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione
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All these are really great. I second these selections!! All prog collections should have most of these albums in it!
------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione
Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album)
Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific
2007:
Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 15 2005 at 18:01
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 15 2005 at 18:28
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 15 2005 at 19:00
I've been told that I resemble a young Steve Hackett before... And I certainly do play guitar...
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 15 2005 at 19:10
Man Overboard wrote:
I've been told that I resemble a young Steve Hackett before... And I certainly do play guitar... |
mmm ... now WHO could have said that ?????????????
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 15 2005 at 21:48
If I recall, some sexy coffee-drinking kitty.
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: June 16 2005 at 00:32
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 10:53
My preference will always be men, Greg, but I don't mind a little deviation from time to time...
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection.
Commissions considered.
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 11:33
geezer wrote:
Alusa Fallax - Intorno alla mia Cattiva Educazione
You need to get this asap! Based on the Italian groups you have mentioned i can give you a 100% guarantee that you will love this album. This album is kinda like a mix of the QVL debut and the Locanda delle Fate album. Wonderful and one of my favourites!
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
An absolute masterpiece! The overall sound of this album is a little heavier than the likes of Banco, Le Orme and PFM but the album alternates in mellow and heavier sections (especially in the title suite) that are simply breathtaking. The mellow sections are the most beautiful you'll hear in prog. This band has a superb drummer Giancarlo Golzi who plays like he is in acids and in many ways he is the driving wheel in the band. This album didn't hit me instantly for some reason but it became my favourite 70's album.
Maxophone - s/t
An excellent album! I don't like this album as much as the aforementioned albums but it doesn't mean that this isn't good. You would probably like this album because you like italian prog in general.
And a few extra recommendations...
Biglietto per L'inferno - s/t
This is one of my absolute faves! Again, this is little heavier like Museo Rosenbach. I recommend you to start with Museo Rosenbach and if you like it get this one next.
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz
This album is fantastic and quite original as well. This group is led by a fantastic guitar player Michele Zarrillo whose playing is fiery and played in hard rock way. A must!
Campo di Marte - s/t
Fantastic and underrated album.
Apoteosi - s/t
Fantastic and based on your tastes you would probably like this.
Metamorfosi - Inferno
Fantastic and for some reason overlooked by some.
Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione
Fantastic and in my opinion the best interpretion of classical music. if you like classical music this is a must!
Some other similar Italian groups worth checking: Alphataurus (1st), Balletto di Bronzo (Ys), Latte e Miele, J.E.T, Osanna (Palepoli), Il Volo, Pierrot Lunaire (1st), Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno (a little jazzy), New Trolls (especially Concerto Grosso per 1)
Some other great groups but might not appeal to everyone (avant-garde, jazz fusion etc.): Area, Arti E Mestieri, Pierrot Lunaire (2nd), Picchio dal Pozzo, Pholas Dactylus
I hope this post doesn't cost you too much money. My intentions are only good.
BTW, are you familiar with new Italian groups?
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Geezer, the Alusa Fallax and the Museo Rosenbach are on their way from the USA and I'll let you know what I think when I've given them a few listens. Thanks for the recommendations
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: June 17 2005 at 14:34
I'm sure you will like the Alusa Fallax album. From your recent posts I
have gotten to somewhat know your prog tastes. Based on this I'm not
complitely sure that you will like Museo Rosenbach. Just remember to
give it some time if it doesn't hit you instantly.
ps. It seems to me that there has been quite a lot of CD traffic in your mail box lately. That must be sad for your credit card . Well, at least Greg Walker is happy .
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Posted By: felona
Date Posted: June 18 2005 at 02:07
geezer wrote:
I'm sure you will like the Alusa Fallax album. From your recent posts I have gotten to somewhat know your prog tastes. Based on this I'm not complitely sure that you will like Museo Rosenbach. Just remember to give it some time if it doesn't hit you instantly.
ps. It seems to me that there has been quite a lot of CD traffic in your mail box lately. That must be sad for your credit card . Well, at least Greg Walker is happy .
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Hi Geezer ... yes, I think I took a risk with Museo but I do like some heavier stuff too ... I definitely won't give up on it too quickly! It took me a while to get into things which I love now - eg BMS Darwin!
Yeah, the postman dreads coming to my house ... I have to sneak to the letterbox before anyone sees the sackful of packages ...
------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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