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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 03:37
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.


Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? are you gonna tell me that Moonchild is original??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 03:53
^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 04:37
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.


Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? are you gonna tell me that Moonchild is original??
Experimenting is just a verb. It has no meaning without an object.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 04:47
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.


Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? 

You're funny. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 06:26
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.


Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? are you gonna tell me that Moonchild is original??

Yes! Everybody who experiments rips off John Cage!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 22:48
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture.


4'33 was done way before when they decide to play as little as possible if not at all
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 22:50
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.


Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? are you gonna tell me that Moonchild is original??

Yes! Everybody who experiments rips off John Cage!

Disapprove

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No no no actually not everyone
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 22:52
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture.


I do think Michael Giles playing is interesting but it's the only interesting thing about it not much to warrant it good


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:00
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture.
4'33 was done way before when they decide to play as little as possible if not at all.
It's not even close. Cage did not have much to say, but the Crims were saying much more than silence.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:12
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture.
4'33 was done way before when they decide to play as little as possible if not at all.
It's not even close. Cage did not have much to say, but the Crims were saying much more than silence.


not really it's only minimalism and you don't even like it that much admit it, I saw review on that album and what I read was that you gave it a total 22/25 which means it's a 4 star album for you not 5 but of course you have to give in and say that it's a 5 star when in reality you don't even think that, sad
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:32
^ Yes, I completely forgot that it's all about the math. Brilliant deduction! How the bloody f$%k did I not think of that?!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:36
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Yes, I completely forgot that it's all about the math. Brilliant deduction! How the bloody f$%k did I not think of that?!


Its all about math and I guess your attachment to it, whatever
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:41
^ OK, I'm out of here. I'm just gonna wait till this guy disappears.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:44
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ OK, I'm out of here. I'm just gonna wait till this guy disappears.


present yourself like a man,please I won't even get hurt by anything you say cuz I know I'm strong but I guess you're not, what I told u was not an insult it's just you're attached to it, is that an insult???no
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 01:28
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.


Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? are you gonna tell me that Moonchild is original??

Yes! Everybody who experiments rips off John Cage!

Disapprove

LOL


No no no actually not everyone

Are you joking or are you incapable of understanding sarcasm?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 01:36
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.


Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? are you gonna tell me that Moonchild is original??

Yes! Everybody who experiments rips off John Cage!

Disapprove

LOL


No no no actually not everyone

Are you joking or are you incapable of understanding sarcasm?


I guess incapable of understanding sarcasm???you didn't seem sarcastic it's hard to understand from an online forum
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 01:45
The emoticons and the fact that my statement was completely ludicrous should have given you a hint.

Look: Your argument makes no sense. The fact that John Cage experimented and King Crimson also experimented doesn't make them John Cage ripoffs. And the fact that there are very few notes in "Moonchild" and "4'33''" is completely silent doesn't make the former a ripoff of the latter. And even if that one song were a John Cage ripoff, that wouldn't make the whole band John Cage wannabes.

You don't like King Crimson. That's fine, and we get it. No reason to make ludicrous statements about them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 02:30
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

The emoticons and the fact that my statement was completely ludicrous should have given you a hint.

Look: Your argument makes no sense. The fact that John Cage experimented and King Crimson also experimented doesn't make them John Cage ripoffs. And the fact that there are very few notes in "Moonchild" and "4'33''" is completely silent doesn't make the former a ripoff of the latter. And even if that one song were a John Cage ripoff, that wouldn't make the whole band John Cage wannabes.

You don't like King Crimson. That's fine, and we get it. No reason to make ludicrous statements about them.


All I want is to have a say and a perspective and if you think the statements were ludicrous then my bad it's just how I felt/ feel and I didn't want to hold back. Dayvenkirq especially doesn't want to hear anything that I have to say because he thinks I'm slapping him in the face when I'm not, even though I have crossed the line but it hasn't really happened that much I think you should have a talk with him because he thinks that I'm a troll or that I've been "terrorizing the forum" when in reality I've just been somewhat strong on my opinions and have crossed the line(very little though), he went overboard as to saying that I am a terrorist when in reality I'm a fan just like all of you
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