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Points: 35804 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 15:29
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:


So I've reached the conclusion that my appreciation for ELP
not only alienates me from the vast majority of actual people around me...
but also from most of my "peers" in this virtual ProgArchives community.
Ouch  Go figure.

I like also the Nice, what should I say? Beer


Something not nice, preferably. Wink

Altaeria: Although I may not enjoy ELP that much on the whole (there was a time when I counted Trilogy amongst my very favourite albums, and when getting into Prog in a big way this past decade, it was one of my first purchases), if I were to make a list of what I think to be the most important Prog albums, ELP would feature prominently.  It is a quintessential Prog band to me.  But of course the top 100 is just a popularity list.  It's not that represenative of my tastes, that's for sure, nor do I think it a great list when it comes to historical importance.

Considering your ratings, you hardly look the ELP fanboy type:

1 starsEMERSON LAKE & PALMER In The Hot Seat (rating only)
1 starsEMERSON LAKE & PALMER Works Vol. 2(rating only)
2 starsEMERSON LAKE & PALMER Black Moon (rating only)
3 starsEMERSON LAKE & PALMER Emerson Lake & Powell(rating only)
2 starsEMERSON LAKE & PALMER Works Vol. 1 (rating only)
4 starsEMERSON LAKE & PALMER Tarkus(rating only)
3 starsEMERSON LAKE & PALMER Trilogy(rating only)
5 starsEMERSON LAKE & PALMER Emerson Lake & Palmer(rating only)

I also find the début best, and would have expected to see ELP quite highly ranked at one time.  Pretty sure it was ranked much higher when I started visiting this site a lot back in 2005.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 16:08
Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:


So I've reached the conclusion that my appreciation for ELP
not only alienates me from the vast majority of actual people around me...
but also from most of my "peers" in this virtual ProgArchives community.
Ouch  Go figure.


Don't cry, dude. I really like Popol Vuh, but none of their albums are on that list. Can are highly lauded, but their albums aren't there either.
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 16:27
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:


So I've reached the conclusion that my appreciation for ELP
not only alienates me from the vast majority of actual people around me...
but also from most of my "peers" in this virtual ProgArchives community.
Ouch  Go figure.


Don't cry, dude. I really like Popol Vuh, but none of their albums are on that list. Can are highly lauded, but their albums aren't there either.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 17:49
^ Sarcasm on sarcasm - pretty clever, I'll give you that.

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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:

So I've reached the conclusion that my appreciation for ELP not only alienates me from the vast majority of actual people around me... but also from most of my "peers" in this virtual ProgArchives community. Ouch  Go figure.


Don't cry, dude. I really like Popol Vuh, but none of their albums are on that list. Can are highly lauded, but their albums aren't there either.


As far as I'm concerned, I do like ELP very much, and they have done some incredible songs that I find among my very favourite prog songs. However, somehow they didn't manage to do any single album I would rate 5 stars, they all have many songs I don't really care much for, or even rather despise. I don't care if they are suposed to be pompous or egomaniac or whatever (hey, one of my favourite albums is Myths and Legends of King Arthur, by Rick Wakeman, you can hardly go more pompous than that). But when ELP goes into that, how to say it, kind of carnival groove, I really dislike them.
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Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:


So I've reached the conclusion that my appreciation for ELP
not only alienates me from the vast majority of actual people around me...
but also from most of my "peers" in this virtual ProgArchives community.
Ouch  Go figure.



You wouldn't alienate yourself from PA if you said you like ABBA.   People just don't agree that ELP must somehow occupy a higher place in the top 100.  Basically, the top 100 is just a popularity contest and not highly relevant except for those who are new to prog for whom it's a handy reckoner of prog essentials.
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Points: 10970 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2012 at 22:14
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

If ELP albums were there and rated relatively high, then all the other albums not by the band would be pushed out. Such is the trade-off. Don't forget that. Sufficient-number-of-ratings-and-reviews-cum-arithmetic-average system - what can you do about it?
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Hey, for what it's worth, this thread motivated me to listen to ELP and I find them quite enjoyable. Tarkus might become a 5 star album by the time I decide to rate it. And contrary to just about everyone else, I like "Jeremy Bender" and "Are You Ready Eddy?". They're fun.
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Points: 1708 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2012 at 16:59
Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Hey, for what it's worth, this thread motivated me to listen to ELP and I find them quite enjoyable. Tarkus might become a 5 star album by the time I decide to rate it. And contrary to just about everyone else, I like "Jeremy Bender" and "Are You Ready Eddy?". They're fun.

Nice - I feel the same.
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Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Hey, for what it's worth, this thread motivated me to listen to ELP and I find them quite enjoyable. Tarkus might become a 5 star album by the time I decide to rate it. And contrary to just about everyone else, I like "Jeremy Bender" and "Are You Ready Eddy?". They're fun.
Jeremy Bender is a good track. Funny, but quite enjoyble.
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

u mad bro


maybe he is,he made an thread about this
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Did you know that if you search "marmite" and "progressive", you find about 2,030,000 results.  We should explore and discuss them all...
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Points: 12732 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2012 at 18:49
Originally posted by Ytse_Jam Ytse_Jam wrote:


Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Hey, for what it's worth, this thread motivated me to listen to ELP and I find them quite enjoyable. Tarkus might become a 5 star album by the time I decide to rate it. And contrary to just about everyone else, I like "Jeremy Bender" and "Are You Ready Eddy?". They're fun.


Jeremy Bender is a good track. Funny, but quite enjoyble.


For me, I really like "Are you Ready Eddy?", haven't really understood all the hate towards that track. Sure enough, it's not prog, but for me a very nice Rock n' Roll piece (without guitar!!!). On the other hand, I really dislike "Jeremy Bender".
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Points: 7849 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2012 at 19:54
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

^Best first post ever!




   Greeeeeeeeeeaaaaaat foooooorummm!!!!
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Points: 28029 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2012 at 01:40
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Ytse_Jam Ytse_Jam wrote:


Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Hey, for what it's worth, this thread motivated me to listen to ELP and I find them quite enjoyable. Tarkus might become a 5 star album by the time I decide to rate it. And contrary to just about everyone else, I like "Jeremy Bender" and "Are You Ready Eddy?". They're fun.


Jeremy Bender is a good track. Funny, but quite enjoyble.


For me, I really like "Are you Ready Eddy?", haven't really understood all the hate towards that track. Sure enough, it's not prog, but for me a very nice Rock n' Roll piece (without guitar!!!). On the other hand, I really dislike "Jeremy Bender".
Tarkus though does seem to be an album with a split personality. Partly becuse the band were not all on the same page. I think Greg Lake preferred a more rock n roll approach while Emerson wanted to expand the symphonic side. The album illustrates the internal battle going on but is still a fascinating album either despite or because of it. Jeremey Bender though is a really odd track to me. Not sure why they did it. The other tracks on Side Two are good especially The Only Way which is the most underrated ELP track. A Time And A Place is a full blooded power track and Are You Ready Eddy is a nice affectionate tribute to their sound enigineer and not a bad way to round off the album. Oh and almost forgot Bitches Crystal which allows Emerson to flex his fingers on the piano. On reflection its only JB that brings the album down a notch. Not dissimilar to Benny The Bouncer and BSS perhaps??!
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BSS? BTB - wouldn't be out of place on a Chas n Dave CD, KE9 2nd impression is also fairly ropey compared with the first impression's sheer brilliance - Mind u like I've said before BSS - should get five stars - because KE9 FIP1 & 2 is an essential for any serious prog collection......
SEBTP similarly has the equally awful - "More Fool Me"...still a SIX star effort for me though....
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Points: 28029 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2012 at 01:26

In a poll that was done recently 2nd Impression and 3rd Impression proved quite popular, the latter getting more votes than 1st Impression. I voted 3rd Impression because its ELP at their most symphonic. I also love Pirates for similar reasons. KE9 stands up well as a suite and isn't unbalanced.My only reservation is that the studio version is inferior to the live version. 3rd Impression is a monster live.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

In a poll that was done recently 2nd Impression and 3rd Impression proved quite popular, the latter getting more votes than 1st Impression. I voted 3rd Impression because its ELP at their most symphonic. I also love Pirates for similar reasons. KE9 stands up well as a suite and isn't unbalanced.My only reservation is that the studio version is inferior to the live version. 3rd Impression is a monster live.

I agree, I consider 2rd imp better than the 1st, though KE9 is an outstanding piece in every minute.
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Originally posted by Ytse_Jam Ytse_Jam wrote:

... though KE9 is an outstanding piece in every minute.

Very much this!


Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 26 2012 at 18:27
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