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Posted: July 25 2012 at 03:07
^ Oh, cool, training my ear!
Give me some time; I may get something for ya, but don't forget that the use of an alternate tuning could be possible.
OK, it's in E, I think it is not an inversion; it's in the first position. However, the highest note is the minor 3rd. Back in the older days I would address this issue in the following away: it's in the third inversion since it's a minor seventh chord, but the bass note is still the E.
Em7. No. Em32 (if you know some theory, then you will probably understand what I'm talking about).
R 7th 3rd
OK, so the first chord is Em32, the second one sounds like a B as if it was played in the B Phrygian mode 'cause it's got that minor 2nd tone.
The other two chord played about 30 sec. into the video are Gmaj and Dmaj.
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 10:09
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Oh, cool, training my ear!
Give me some time; I may get something for ya, but don't forget that the use of an alternate tuning could be possible.
OK, it's in E, I think it is not an inversion; it's in the first position. However, the highest note is the minor 3rd. Back in the older days I would address this issue in the following away: it's in the third inversion since it's a minor seventh chord, but the bass note is still the E.
Em7. No. Em32 (if you know some theory, then you will probably understand what I'm talking about).
R 7th 3rd
OK, so the first chord is Em32, the second one sounds like a B as if it was played in the B Phrygian mode 'cause it's got that minor 2nd tone.
The other two chord played about 30 sec. into the video are Gmaj and Dmaj.
Will be back; some duty calls.
Thanks, Dayvenkirq. This mysterious sounding chord progression reminds me of the Impressionistic music of Ravel and Debussy. Of course, the song morphs into something different after this introduction, but this opening always seemed so haunting to me.
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Posted: July 26 2012 at 00:19
^ Xy32 is the nomenclature for a seventh chord in the third inversion. There is the root position (Xy7), then the first inversion (Xy65), second inversion (Xy43), and the third inversion (Xy... ah, s$%t! I messed up!)
Sorry, not Em32, but Em2. That's the third inversion.
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Posted: July 26 2012 at 01:03
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Xy32 is the nomenclature for a seventh chord in the third inversion. There is the root position (Xy7), then the first inversion (Xy65), second inversion (Xy43), and the third inversion (Xy... ah, s$%t! I messed up!)
Sorry, not Em32, but Em2. That's the third inversion.
I've never seen it written that way.
Normally those numbers would be written for roman numeral notation, as in IV6/5 or something, though it's awkward to type out and doesn't look right.
You're mixing chord notation and roman numeral notation, and I don't know if that's standard anywhere....
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Posted: July 26 2012 at 13:58
Dayvenkirq, not sure where do you get Em2 from, it's Em7 to me. Well I'm not very good at chord names but anyway it's a very simple arpeggio and I can tell you the fingering.
It's in std tuning. Place your left hand so that:
6th string open
5th string open
4th string 10th fret (pinky finger)
3rd string 7th fret (index)
2nd string 8th fret (middle)
1st string open
and arpeggio like this (the beat is 7/8)
6th
1st
3rd
2nd
4th
release the 2nd string open and pick it
1st
repeat
then the 2nd chord at 1:05, place your left hand so that:
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Posted: July 26 2012 at 15:27
Epignosis wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
It's in std tuning.
My guitars do not have that tuning because they stay in their cases.
Mine was in its case for months and I just took it out to check this out, I knew it was a very simple arpeggio but I had to try it. Had to fine-tune the guitar a bit but I was surprised that it was quite OK after such a long time in its case
My guitars do not have that tuning because they stay in their cases.
Mine was in its case for months and I just took it out to check this out, I knew it was a very simple arpeggio but I had to try it. Had to fine-tune the guitar a bit but I was surprised that it was quite OK after such a long time in its case
I was just making a joke. In the US, std means "sexually transmitted disease."
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Posted: July 26 2012 at 22:33
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Gerinski wrote:
Dayvenkirq, not sure where do you get Em2 from, it's Em7 to me. Well I'm not very good at chord names but anyway it's a very simple arpeggio and I can tell you the fingering.
I believe you with all the things that follow. I just messed up a bit again. I meant to say Em2/E (because E is the lowest note and the minor 3rd is the highest note).
Uh, crap, I messed up again! It's not third inversion; it's second inversion.
R 3 5 7
3 5 7 R
5 7 R 3 ... Yup, second inversion. So, it's Em43/E.
Damn, you are right about the fingerings. I'm learning to play the guitar in the bluesy rock-n'-roll style, so I completely forgot about simple arpeggios. And I didn't even get to the other chord 'cause I had some prior engagements to attend to.
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Dayvenkirq wrote:
I'm learning to play the guitar in the bluesy rock-n'-roll style, so I completely forgot about simple arpeggios. And I didn't even get to the other chord 'cause I had some prior engagements to attend to.